2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[purguy12]

Damn u CBA. It will never end with these super teams. Let's go Boston make a move.

 

[Hambombs]

Can't imagine how Barkley feels about this

I imagine the next TNT segment will go something like this:

Chuck: "DA CAVS ARE NOT A JUMP SHOOTIN TEAM, ERNEH. THEY DO NOT RELY ON THE THREE POINT SHOT LIKE GOLDEN STATE DOES. THEM BOYS CAN BEAT YOU INSAHD OR OUTSAHD."

Ernie: "But Chuck, the Cavs are 2nd in the league in 3 pointers attempted, and just added one of the deadliest 3 point shooters in the league. Isn't it a little unfair to label Golden State as a jump shooting team, and not Cleveland?"

Chuck: "ERNEH, I BEEN AROUND DIS LEAGUE FO OVAH 30 YEARS, AND I HAVE NEVAH SEEN A JUMP SHOOTIN TEAM WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. DA CAVS STILL GOT MORE SIZE THAN THE WOMEN DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO. DA WARRIORS STILL GOT NO ANSWA FO THAT".

Shaq: "And you still got no ring Chuck!"

*Shaq leans forward, laughing to himself*

 

[msgkings322]

Great trade for cavs. They have 4 All Stars now. Super 4 team with a work horse in TT. Not bad

Korver is nowhere near an Allstar anymore, especially on D. He's a 3 point specialist, nice to have, nothing more.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Can't imagine how Barkley feels about this

I imagine the next TNT segment will go something like this:

Chuck: "DA CAVS ARE NOT A JUMP SHOOTIN TEAM, ERNEH. THEY DO NOT RELY ON THE THREE POINT SHOT LIKE GOLDEN STATE DOES. THEM BOYS CAN BEAT YOU INSAHD OR OUTSAHD."

Ernie: "But Chuck, the Cavs are 2nd in the league in 3 pointers attempted, and just added one of the deadliest 3 point shooters in the league. Isn't it a little unfair to label Golden State as a jump shooting team, and not Cleveland?"

Chuck: "ERNEH, I BEEN AROUND DIS LEAGUE FO OVAH 30 YEARS, AND I HAVE NEVAH SEEN A JUMP SHOOTIN TEAM WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. DA CAVS STILL GOT MORE SIZE THAN THE WOMEN DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO. DA WARRIORS STILL GOT NO ANSWA FO THAT".

Shaq: "And you still got no ring Chuck!"

*Shaq leans forward, laughing to himself*

i think what he means is that the Cavs 3's are more a by-product of driving and attacking by LeBron and Kyrie- then the Warriors who rely more on perimeter ball movement and spacing.

 

[purguy12]

Korver is nowhere near an Allstar anymore, especially on D. He's a 3 point specialist, nice to have, nothing more.

Yes but was an all star and one of the best shooters in basketball

 

[trojanfan12]

Quote from that article:

LeBron James acknowledged the Cleveland Cavaliers' need for a backup point guard with Mo Williams still taking a roster spot.

Cleveland drafted Kay Felder in the second round but he's still a rookie.

"Kay's in the process of learning on the fly," James said. "He's a rookie and is going to have his mistakes and things of that nature. It's tough on him because we're a franchise trying to win a championship. He has to have a fast-track mind. But we don't have a backup point guard."


hmmmmm....LeBron seems to be of the opinion that its extremely difficult for a rookie learning on the fly being able to be relied upon to be a contributor to a championship contending team...who else said that? do you know @Mecca ? lol....

he even goes so far as to say "we dont have a backup point guard" despite Felder contributing pretty well the last 3 games...which brings it all back full circle.

Kay Felder actually DID contribute in two wins last week- but what did LeBron say? "WE DONT HAVE A BACKUP POINT GUARD"

ill keep siding with LeBron...

What a bullshit thing for Lebron to say. Way to express confidence in your teammate.

And he says it publicly no less.

 

[trojanfan12]

What a shocker!

Pretty sure Wiggy gives Lebron the shocker pretty regularly.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's a rookie on the best team in the league. That's right the Cavs aren't the best team in the league, despite what you think. How much PT do you expect him to get? I think it says good things about him as a player that he's even getting any PT this season w/ the talent the Warriors have. Some of your rants are truly bizarre. From bashing Pat Riley (even though his NBA resume speaks for itself) to your insistence that Thompson is a better hoopster than Whiteside. I can't wait to see who you have a problem w/ next!

I don't think there's anyone here that he hasn't had a problem with. The most bizarre thing is that he is easily the most disliked poster in the NBA forums if not all of tHoop, gets put on blast regularly and still continues to post here. I guess it's true what they say: "Some folks prefer negative attention to no attention at all."

 

[LAD]

the straw might be a bit much...

 

[LogicMan]

Gotta say I am watching the Lakes Blazers game and I am seeing some real speed by the purple and gold.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm not sure of that now. With the addition of Korver the Cavs will be deadly! I got cottonmouth, time for some iced tea.

Drankin' some iced tea for the same reason.

 

[WiggyRuss]

What a bullshit thing for Lebron to say. Way to express confidence in your teammate.

And he says it publicly no less.

he is just speaking the truth- you arent gonna rely on a 2nd round rookie when you are competing for a title...you just cant.

the Korver deals opened up a roster spot since Mo and Dunleavy are gone (assuming the deal is complete and goes through which it doesnt sound like its final yet by any means)...

i am assuming they make a move for a real credible backup point guard fairly soon- whether thats Cole, Chalmers or Jack--- or someone else- i couldnt say. I highly doubt it iwll be Rondo like i have seen some speculation on.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Gotta say I am watching the Lakes Blazers game and I am seeing some real speed by the purple and gold.

i wonder what the over/under on that game was.....id take the over though i can tell ya that.

 

[trojanfan12]

he is just speaking the truth- you arent gonna rely on a 2nd round rookie when you are competing for a title...you just cant.

the Korver deals opened up a roster spot since Mo and Dunleavy are gone (assuming the deal is complete and goes through which it doesnt sound like its final yet by any means)...

i am assuming they make a move for a real credible backup point guard fairly soon- whether thats Cole, Chalmers or Jack--- or someone else- i couldnt say. I highly doubt it iwll be Rondo like i have seen some speculation on.

Still a bullshit thing to say publicly about a teammate. It's worse that he said it about a rookie. I don't have too much of a problem with him saying that it's tough to be a rookie trying to learn the game on a team looking to win a championship. He should have stopped there.

But nope, in typical Lebron fashion, he had to say "We don't have a backup point guard." That's just pure bullshit.

 

[trojanfan12]

i wonder what the over/under on that game was.....id take the over though i can tell ya that.

Well, it's 62-53 Lakers at halftime, so that would be a good bet.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Gotta say I am watching the Lakes Blazers game and I am seeing some real speed by the purple and gold.

Randle right now has 4 assists in the first half. unbelievable. How often do you see a 22 year old big man that can pass like that? you can definitely tell Walton is trying to groom him into a draymond like player.

its the best thing for him too- PF is a HARD position to be elite at in the NBA. You need a niche. Randle moving the ball like that shows that he is a. unselfish, and b. knows how to play within a system. Thats some pretty awesome things for a 22 year old big man. He is a lot more explosive then i originally thought as well from watching him.

When you say turn into an All Star player- i always like getting some context in looking at the other playerse at a guys position inthe league...obviosuly to one day be an all star he would have to be basically one of the top 7-8 big men in the West--- because remember center isnt a position any longer so thats open as a slot.

Davis, Towns, Griffin, Draymond, Cousins, are all 26 or younger. That next tier down (though im tempted to put Gobert in that is first tier) are guys like Gobert, Capela, Favors, Adams, Kanter, Jokic are all very young and talented- but i think Randle can definitely fit into that group and is fast approaching it with a chance to go even higher someday.

guys like Aldridge and Gasol are 31 years old, DJ 28....

 

[purguy12]

No team has a chance in the East now even before this trade maybe a team gets 2 wins in a series. Korver is hitting a crazy 82% on open shots. Best in the NBA. Just imagine how many he is going to get with Irving and LBJ dishing it to him. This team was already the 2nd best team
In 3's. like I said before only negative cavs get a little worse on D. Korver has struggled on D big time this year.

 

[larryjohn]

Still a bullshit thing to say publicly about a teammate. It's worse that he said it about a rookie. ...
That's just pure bullshit.

Yes ... next Lebron will make the rookie sit alone by himself because they don't like what the rookie posted on social media.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Still a bullshit thing to say publicly about a teammate. It's worse that he said it about a rookie. I don't have too much of a problem with him saying that it's tough to be a rookie trying to learn the game on a team looking to win a championship. He should have stopped there.

But nope, in typical Lebron fashion, he had to say "We don't have a backup point guard." That's just pure bullshit.

i gotta say- its hard to criticize LeBron when you see the results....plus- i mean- this tweet from Jason Lloyd makes the void at backup PG pretty apparent:

Jason Lloyd ‏@JasonLloydABJ 23h23 hours ago
About that backup point guard issue? Cavs had 0 assists and 8 turnovers in 4th quarter Wednesday. Final thoughts: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/bulls-106-cavs-94-jason-lloyd-s-23-thoughts-on-point-guards-sick-lebron-and-a-thin-roster-1.738178 …

. The Cavs only committed 15 turnovers, which is not an exorbitant figure for an NBA game. But the Cavs had eight turnovers and zero assists in the fourth quarter Wednesday with Kay Felder, an actual point guard, on the floor for more than nine minutes. Yet despite all that, somehow they still were within one point with 6:48 to play in the game.

3. It isn’t just someone who can bring the ball up and run pick-and-roll or get the offense into a set. They lack another creator who can get quality shots for others. Felder has shown some confidence and considerable improvement the last few games, but no one is ready to anoint him the answer. As a second-round pick, Felder barely has his own nose above the NBA waters right now. He can’t be expected to consistently set up others.

 

[trojanfan12]

i gotta say- its hard to criticize LeBron when you see the results....plus- i mean- this tweet from Jason Lloyd makes the void at backup PG pretty apparent:

Jason Lloyd ‏@JasonLloydABJ 23h23 hours ago
About that backup point guard issue? Cavs had 0 assists and 8 turnovers in 4th quarter Wednesday. Final thoughts: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/bulls-106-cavs-94-jason-lloyd-s-23-thoughts-on-point-guards-sick-lebron-and-a-thin-roster-1.738178 …

. The Cavs only committed 15 turnovers, which is not an exorbitant figure for an NBA game. But the Cavs had eight turnovers and zero assists in the fourth quarter Wednesday with Kay Felder, an actual point guard, on the floor for more than nine minutes. Yet despite all that, somehow they still were within one point with 6:48 to play in the game.

3. It isn’t just someone who can bring the ball up and run pick-and-roll or get the offense into a set. They lack another creator who can get quality shots for others. Felder has shown some confidence and considerable improvement the last few games, but no one is ready to anoint him the answer. As a second-round pick, Felder barely has his own nose above the NBA waters right now. He can’t be expected to consistently set up others.

It's not hard to criticize Lebron at all if you understand team sports. Like I said, him talking about it being tough to be a rookie on a title contending team is fine. That stuff about "We don't have a backup point guard" is bullshit and never should be said publicly about a teammate even if it's true.