2013 16-team BCS Playoff.

[rmilia1]

16 is fine IF you reduce the regular season to 10 games. The scrubs can figure out another way to pay for their athletic programs if they want them. Every league plays 9 conference games, 1 quality OOC opponent and call it a wrap. Teams that make the playof would play no more than 14 games ( or 15 if you want to keep the league title games ). Thatd be fine and a MUCH more exciting season.

 

[LawDawg]

16 is fine IF you reduce the regular season to 10 games. The scrubs can figure out another way to pay for their athletic programs if they want them. Every league plays 9 conference games, 1 quality OOC opponent and call it a wrap. Teams that make the playof would play no more than 14 games ( or 15 if you want to keep the league title games ). That be fine and a MUCH more exciting season.

You basically stated why this won't happen ... 110 schools are not going to give up 2 games, so 16 teams can get 11, 8 can get 12, 4 can get 13, and 2 can get 14. The loss to UGa per game would easily be 7-8 million, and the loss to the city of Athens would be substantially more.

 

[rmilia1]

You basically stated why this won't happen ... 110 schools are not going to give up 2 games, so 16 teams can get 11, 8 can get 12, 4 can get 13, and 2 can get 14. The loss to UGa per game would easily be 7-8 million, and the loss to the city of Athens would be substantially more.

Oh I know, Im just stating that 16 COULD be done. It wont be because of cash but it could be if they really wanted to make the product better and more exciting.

 

[bocomo007]

I really think some SEC fans are afraid they're going to lose in the first round and be exposed and that's why most are against a playoff.

 

[pitman]

If you are in the BCS top-25 and a conference champion you receive an automatic spot. Of the 10 conference champs 3 would not qualify--Bowling Green (10-3), UL-Lafayette (8-4), and Rice (10-3). I also forbid same conference matchups in the 1st round if possible. I switched Clemson and Oklahoma to avoid an OU-Baylor game. I know it will always be a dream or won't happen until way on down the road. I can only hope sooner than later.

1)*Florida St (13-0) vs 16)*Fresno St (11-1)
8)Missouri (11-2) vs 9)Oregon (10-2)

4)*Michigan St (12-1) vs 13)Oklahoma St (10-2)
5)*Stanford (11-2) vs 12)Oklahoma (10-2)

2)*Auburn (12-1) vs 15)*UCF (11-1)
7)Ohio St (12-1) vs 10)So Carolina (10-2)

3)Alabama (11-1) vs 14)Arizona St (10-3)
6)*Baylor (11-1) vs 11)Clemson (10-2)
(*)conference champion

I like it, there are some great match-ups in those games. We might see a few upsets, but in the end I can see a Bama - FSU for the NCG.

 

[Steelboy84]

Not if they are smart. Nobody really wants to see it go that far, especially the coaches.

Teams 5-16 will lobby and cry their way into the playoff. The old system is far better than a playoff AND the BS, I mean the BCS.

 

[ElTexan]

4 team playoff.
Teams chosen by a BCS-like system with enhanced weight to SOS.
Add Cotton
Rotate Semis through Cotton, Fiesta, Rose, Orange, Sugar.
Play final at one of those or a completely separate site.
Does not extend season
Keeps existing bowl system
Keeps "every game counts" atmosphere every week, but gives a chance for a very deserving team to falter and still have a chance.

I wish someone would have been posting about such a system since, let's say, 2000-2001. Oh... wait...

 

[sakau2007]

That happened in 2011, ship has sailed. " CFB #whereeverygamecounts!!.... Unless it doesnt???

just because a rematch occurs in the final game doesn't mean every game didn't count. alabama lost to the unanimous #1, in overtime, and still needed to win out and get help to reach the title game. lol @ acting like every game doesn't count.

 

[Codaxx]

Why 16 teams is too many:

- The finalists will have played 17 games. You either have to play all of December, through finals, or you have to play well into January, competing with the NFL and the Super Bowl. You have to realize that won't happen.

- The athletes don't want to play more games that lessens the number of games they may play on Sunday. It's pretty much a given these days that RBs in particular realize that they have only so many rushes in their productive careers.

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Here is the interesting part of the equation. Currently the regular season is around 12-13 games.. Oddly NCAA seems to tack on a game every 15-20 yrs, but it is about the kids. There are 35 bowl games. I assume bowls are phased out in a large playoff. 70 extra games are played and there are 10-15 extra practices. 16 game playoff actually is played in 15 games, so there are 55 less games played. Actually lessens the chances for injuries. 8 teams are negatively effected. 8 teams are neutral (first round losers). 54 teams play less games.
I actually think it helps the injury front. Also it helps academics. Playoffs have to start earlier, so there are very few teams practicing over the finals period.

 

[Codaxx]

just because a rematch occurs in the final game doesn't mean every game didn't count. alabama lost to the unanimous #1, in overtime, and still needed to win out and get help to reach the title game. lol @ acting like every game doesn't count.

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It means that exact thing. Amazingly that game did count as a negative. Winner received an extra game. The loser got the week off.

 

[sakau2007]

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It means that exact thing. Amazingly that game did count as a negative. Winner received an extra game. The loser got the week off.

as it all turned out, that's true.

but it's no different than any time a 1 loss team plays for the title. it doesn't mean every game didn't count.

when they lost, they ceded control of their own destiny. they needed top teams to falter. and they did. and they needed to keep winning. and they did.

to me, the great irony of it all is that if lsu had lost to georgia in the sec title game, they would have gotten to play (and likely crushed) oklahoma state.

 

[Codaxx]

as it all turned out, that's true.

but it's no different than any time a 1 loss team plays for the title. it doesn't mean every game didn't count.

when they lost, they ceded control of their own destiny. they needed top teams to falter. and they did. and they needed to keep winning. and they did.

to me, the great irony of it all is that if lsu had lost to georgia in the sec title game, they would have gotten to play (and likely crushed) oklahoma state.

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I doubt that. LSU was a hot mess for the title game. Played their worse game. Lots of nonsense was floating around the program. Just another reason I hate the BCS and bowls in general. So much is based on which coach deals with the long layoff better.

 

[sakau2007]

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I doubt that. LSU was a hot mess for the title game. Played their worse game. Lots of nonsense was floating around the program. Just another reason I hate the BCS and bowls in general. So much is based on which coach deals with the long layoff better.

do you hate the opening weekend of the year as well? 8 month layoff? should we not count games until week 2?

in 2011, the sec had already claimed the acc, pac-12, and big east champions as victims... and then SEC West #3 Arkansas showed the gap between the SEC and Big 12 in the cotton bowl. led 19-0 and won by 2 touchdowns over Big 12 #2 Kansas State.

 

[Codaxx]

do you hate the opening weekend of the year as well? 8 month layoff? should we not count games until week 2?

in 2011, the sec had already claimed the acc, pac-12, and big east champions as victims... and then SEC West #3 Arkansas showed the gap between the SEC and Big 12 in the cotton bowl. led 19-0 and won by 2 touchdowns over Big 12 #2 Kansas State.

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I hate randomness. It makes no sense to take a 5 week break between the season and the championship game. You have a fixation on SEC's ranking. 1 game show 0. Not like I am going to say Pac is better than the SEC, because Auburn struggled with Washington State, even if that is something you would do had you been born on the West Coast.

 

[LawDawg]

Here is the interesting part of the equation. Currently the regular season is around 12-13 games.. Oddly NCAA seems to tack on a game every 15-20 yrs, but it is about the kids. There are 35 bowl games. I assume bowls are phased out in a large playoff. 70 extra games are played and there are 10-15 extra practices. 16 game playoff actually is played in 15 games, so there are 55 less games played. Actually lessens the chances for injuries. 8 teams are negatively effected. 8 teams are neutral (first round losers). 54 teams play less games.
I actually think it helps the injury front. Also it helps academics. Playoffs have to start earlier, so there are very few teams practicing over the finals period.

Trying to get to your numbers.

12 Regular Season games
Assume that many NC playoff teams will have been in a CCG
A 16 team field requires 4 weekends to get a winner - down to 8, 4, 2, 1

By my count, that is the finalists playing 17 games, perhaps 16.

I can't in any way agree with your assumption about the bowls. They would have to be a component of this or it is a non-starter. They are too influential.

 

[Codaxx]

Trying to get to your numbers.

12 Regular Season games
Assume that many NC playoff teams will have been in a CCG
A 16 team field requires 4 weekends to get a winner - down to 8, 4, 2, 1

By my count, that is the finalists playing 17 games, perhaps 16.

I can't in any way agree with your assumption about the bowls. They would have to be a component of this or it is a non-starter. They are too influential.

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Correct. I said 8 teams would play more games, teams that move on from the first round. I just dont see a big market for Bowls if a playoff continues. It is possible. Many bowls are money losers currently for Universities and the pressure to play in them is minimized. I just think in terms of education and time a playoff benefits more the players. It hinders a smaller subsection, but benefits a larger majority.

 

[LawDawg]

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Correct. I said 8 teams would play more games, teams that move on from the first round. I just dont see a big market for Bowls if a playoff continues. It is possible. Many bowls are money losers currently for Universities and the pressure to play in them is minimized. I just think in terms of education and time a playoff benefits more the players. It hinders a smaller subsection, but benefits a larger majority.

Got it. I think we will get to 8 in a decade. Don't think we will get to 16. Hope not.

 

[Codaxx]

Got it. I think we will get to 8 in a decade. Don't think we will get to 16. Hope not.

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I wanted 11.
5 champs- 1st round bye
6 at-large

10 games to decide it. Still gets you to the potential of 16-17, but most likely 15-16.

 

[ellupo]

The playoff system does not matter until you fix the conferences. Each should have only 10 with a round robin. Then those winners can play. There is too many times that top teams in the same conference do not play each other.

 

[LawDawg]

The playoff system does not matter until you fix the conferences. Each should have only 10 with a round robin. Then those winners can play. There is too many times that top teams in the same conference do not play each other.

Then it won't be fixed.