Series Thread: 1) Toronto Raptors vs 4) Cleveland Cavs

[trojanfan12]

Hes clueless.
His best player yesterday was JV, who he benched figuring Ibaka was better.

Yeah, I didn't get that either. From what I saw, JV was the one true advantage that the Raptors had and they never really pressed it.

 

[Wamu]

Brian Windhorst‏Verified account @WindhorstESPN 12h12 hours ago
LeBron James is going to the Eastern Conference Finals for the 10th time in the past 12 years


pretty unreal. Its hard to imagine something like that----- 10 times in 12 years going to the Conference Finals.

Bill Russell went to conference finals all 13 years he played in the league. Pretty unreal. Take THAT LeBron!



(shake, rattle & roll)

 

[Heatles84]

Shit it's gonna be LeBron versus the Celtics or 76ers? Where did the rest of the Cavs go? LeBron will have to face a team all by himself? I gotta ask @Heatles84 1st but I just might put my life savings on the line for this 1 sided miss match.

If you're not willing to bet your life savings on sports, then any argument you bring is invalid. No flaws in the logic on that, @Wamu . You got this my man.

 

[Heatles84]

Yeah, I didn't get that either. From what I saw, JV was the one true advantage that the Raptors had and they never really pressed it.

This. I don't understand how some are arguing for Casey. I really don't.

You really think that you can stand pat when you make it to the playoffs as a #1 seed and get embarrassed in the fashion that you did?

 

[Mecca]

I kinda like Halen Rose's suggestion of trading Wiggins for Derozan.

Delmar deserves better and Wiggins is lazy and unmotivated.

But, maybe going home will help?

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

It still depends on so many things....

but right now after last nights game:

Cleveland 50%

Philly 25%

LA 20%

Houston 5%

so many things can change--- if the Cavs beat the Celtics, how they do in the finals if they beat the Celtics, what their lotto pick comes in at, if they can trade their lotto pick for a star, if philly decides to go after LeBron or a better fit like PG or Kawhi, what LA does, etc.....still so much to be decided between the playoffs and the lotto.

I’d put the odds of him coming back to Cleveland closer to 0%. Lebron wants titles. There’s very little chance Lebron goes back unless Cleveland can overhaul their roster in such a short amount of time. In Cleveland he can make the finals every year. In philly, he can win multiple more titles. The choice is easy for me. I seriously doubt he goes out west.

Remember when I said Anyone who thought Toronto had a chance hadn’t been paying attention the last few years? Well, anyone who thinks Lebron is staying in Cleveland hasn’t been paying attention the last few years either.

 

[trojanfan12]

It still depends on so many things....

but right now after last nights game:

Cleveland 50%

Philly 25%

LA 20%

Houston 5%

so many things can change--- if the Cavs beat the Celtics, how they do in the finals if they beat the Celtics, what their lotto pick comes in at, if they can trade their lotto pick for a star, if philly decides to go after LeBron or a better fit like PG or Kawhi, what LA does, etc.....still so much to be decided between the playoffs and the lotto.

First off, I agree that unless things between Lebron and Gilbert are even worse than it seems, he probably comes back to Cleveland. I'd probably flip the Philly/LA chances, but I think it's real close between them. Good cases can be made for both teams.

The problem though, as others point out, is that he wants titles. How do the Cavs close the gap between themselves and the Warriors enough for Lebron to believe they can win?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

it would be hard for me to fire a coach that won 59 games and had his team in the top 5 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.

I mean- its LeBron. At some point you just tip your cap.

Its also strategy and adjustments.
Torontos was terrible from start to finish with both.

 

[Wamu]

If you're not willing to bet your life savings on sports, then any argument you bring is invalid. No flaws in the logic on that, @Wamu . You got this my man.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

First off, I agree that unless things between Lebron and Gilbert are even worse than it seems, he probably comes back to Cleveland. I'd probably flip the Philly/LA chances, but I think it's real close between them. Good cases can be made for both teams.

The problem though, as others point out, is that he wants titles. How do the Cavs close the gap between themselves and the Warriors enough for Lebron to believe they can win?

Hire Tanya Harding to take out Durants knees?

 

[msgkings322]

I kinda like Halen Rose's suggestion of trading Wiggins for Derozan.

Delmar deserves better and Wiggins is lazy and unmotivated.

But, maybe going home will help?

Halen Rose is the name of the band where Van Halen brings in Axl Rose to replace David Lee Roth

 

[msgkings322]

Hire Tanya Harding to take out Durants knees?

Tonya didn't do it, it was Jeff Gilooly! Best name ever.

 

[trojanfan12]

it would be hard for me to fire a coach that won 59 games and had his team in the top 5 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.

I mean- its LeBron. At some point you just tip your cap.

The problem for Casey, imo, isn't that they lost, it's how they lost. If they put up a fight like Indy did...then you tip your cap and try again next season.

But getting swept and not even putting up a fight in the elimination game is pretty bad. Especially considering they had HCA.

Firing a coach who won a lot of games isn't exactly unprecedented either. In the seasons before they let him go, Del Harris had won 53, 56 and 61 games (they fired him 12 games into his last season).

Mark Jackson had won 47 and 51 games in the seasons before he was let go.

Sometimes a guy has taken a team as far as he can and just has to be replaced.

The problem for the Raptors though is, who can they get who's better? The Lakers replaced Harris with Phil and the Warriors replaced Jackson with Kerr.

I'm not sure there's a coach they can get right now who's better than Casey.

 

[Mecca]

Halen Rose is the name of the band where Van Halen brings in Axl Rose to replace David Lee Roth

Goddamn phone!!!!!!

 

[Mecca]

Hire Tanya Harding to take out Durants knees?

ZSA ZSA says " Hold my beer ".....

 

[msgkings322]

Goddamn phone!!!!!!

I'd listen to that band though

 

[larryjohn]

I kinda like Halen Rose's suggestion of trading Wiggins for Derozan.
Delmar deserves better and Wiggins is lazy and unmotivated.
But, maybe going home will help?

One writer suggested trading Derozan for Lakers #1 pick. (he has 3 years, $83M left on his contract)

 

[Wamu]

Halen Rose is the name of the band where Van Halen brings in Axl Rose to replace David Lee Roth

Then after Eddie kicks Axl outta Van Halen he'll cruise on down to Mexico to join Sammy Hagar's band.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

ZSA ZSA says " Hold my beer ".....

Zsa Zsa needed someone to hold her beer.
Wasnt she just a torso at the end?

 

[Wamu]

@WiggyRuss what's up w/ this? Ran across an article that said Rodney Hood refused to enter the game last night in the 4th quarter pissing off some of his teammates. Have you heard this yet?