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Series Thread: 1) Toronto Raptors vs 4) Cleveland Cavs

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Not sure what you're thinking of, but I would say he certainly hasn't this year. And there was plenty of opportunity.

Maybe not vocally, but he basically quit on the team heading into the trade deadline.
 

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Thanks, man.

I wonder which year had the highest combined seed numbers? This year if it's 2 and 4 that would be 6, pretty high.

In 1999 the Knicks were an 8 seed (vs the Spurs 1) so that's 9, probably the record. Strike shortened season though, Petty Phil Jackson famously dismissed the Spurs' title.
Yeah that would be it.

Runner up, 1981 and 1985 were both 7.

In 81 the #6 seed Rockets lost to #1 Celtics.

In 95 the #6 seed Rockets beat the #1 Magic
 

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Yeah that would be it.

Runner up, 1981 and 1985 were both 7.

In 81 the #6 seed Rockets lost to #1 Celtics.

In 95 the #6 seed Rockets beat the #1 Magic

Anyone old enough to remember what was going on during one of the 1994 Rockets/Knicks Finals games?
 

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Kevin Love goes for 21 points, 12 boards, 2 assits, 1 block, 1 stl, 2 turnovers a game

@TurnUpTheHeat you dont think he heard you did he? Can we credit you with his success? or just LeBron?

After a game one where Love actually fought hard- just didnt shoot well, he then went for

31 and 11
21 and 16
23 and 6, 2 blocks, 2 steals... over 50% from the field in those 3 games.

Thats what the Cavs need out of him--- anytime they get 20 and 10 or something close to that- its AWESOME

a very complete game by Love tonight- some nice defensive plays even.

Like I have said- Love still is a top 20-30 player in the league. His skill set is just so rare and valuable...a big man that can shoot and pass and rebound like that is worth his weight in Gold in todays pace and space NBA.
 

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Yep. I was only 11, but I remember it well. Bronco

Right? It was crazy, they had the game and the chase on split screen. One of the most bizarre things of my lifetime (I was 24)
 

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Kevin Love goes for 21 points, 12 boards, 2 assits, 1 block, 1 stl, 2 turnovers a game

@TurnUpTheHeat you dont think he heard you did he? Can we credit you with his success? or just LeBron?

After a game one where Love actually fought hard- just didnt shoot well, he then went for

31 and 11
21 and 16
23 and 6, 2 blocks, 2 steals... over 50% from the field in those 3 games.

Thats what the Cavs need out of him--- anytime they get 20 and 10 or something close to that- its AWESOME

a very complete game by Love tonight- some nice defensive plays even.

Like I have said- Love still is a top 20-30 player in the league. His skill set is just so rare and valuable...a big man that can shoot and pass and rebound like that is worth his weight in Gold in todays pace and space NBA.

He's like a Draymond who's shitty at defense
 

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He's like a Draymond who's shitty at defense
this Bridges kid from MSU reminds me a lil of Draymond

obviously the MSU connection- they both kind of didnt have a position-- both are vocal guys with personality.

I wouldnt mind him if the Cavs dont move up in the lotto
 

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Kevin Love goes for 21 points, 12 boards, 2 assits, 1 block, 1 stl, 2 turnovers a game

@TurnUpTheHeat you dont think he heard you did he? Can we credit you with his success? or just LeBron?

After a game one where Love actually fought hard- just didnt shoot well, he then went for

31 and 11
21 and 16
23 and 6, 2 blocks, 2 steals... over 50% from the field in those 3 games.

Thats what the Cavs need out of him--- anytime they get 20 and 10 or something close to that- its AWESOME

a very complete game by Love tonight- some nice defensive plays even.

Like I have said- Love still is a top 20-30 player in the league. His skill set is just so rare and valuable...a big man that can shoot and pass and rebound like that is worth his weight in Gold in todays pace and space NBA.


The Raptors defensive ‘plan’ was horrific.
James shredded them.
Every Cav on the court benefits from that.
Average NBA players can make a high % of wide open shots.

So, no, Im not at all surprised that Love thrived in this series.

Problem for him, is really all that matters.
Warriors have most answers for him and he has little for them.
 

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this Bridges kid from MSU reminds me a lil of Draymond

obviously the MSU connection- they both kind of didnt have a position-- both are vocal guys with personality.

I wouldnt mind him if the Cavs dont move up in the lotto

Yep, that's why Draymond is so valuable. Besides his stats, he's the vocal leader of the team. The other 3 stars are all pretty quiet. Dray is the floor general, the guy who will get in everyone's face and set them straight.

Plus he and David West give them toughness. I think West is going to retire after this season and that sucks hard. His presence will be hard to replace. I'm telling you, while this year's 'ship is probably a lock for GS, next year is going to be their hardest of all, hands down.
 

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Love a little bit of a better scorer and outside shooter....

Sure, agreed, but obviously Dray is a top 15 player and Love is scraping the high 20s at best.
 

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The Raptors defensive ‘plan’ was horrific.
James shredded them.
Every Cav on the court benefits from that.
Average NBA players can make a high % of wide open shots.

So, no, Im not at all surprised that Love thrived in this series.

Problem for him, is really all that matters.
Warriors have most answers for him and he has little for them.
you realize Love was pretty good without LeBron right?

26 pts, 12.5 boards, 4.4 assists one year

26 points, 13.3 boards, 2.0 assists another year

20 points, 15 boards, 2.5 assists another year

those were his last 3 years in Minne besides the one year he only played 18 games with injury


i dunno about you- but averaging about 24 points, 14 boards, and 3 assists across a 3 season stretch seems decent to me....lol.

its why he is a 5 time all star and would easily be a number of teams best player- includng your Heat's.
 

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Love is consistently a top-10 rebounder in the league. While being one of the premier 3point shooting big men in the league. That's a very rare combination of skillsets that he doesn't get enough credit for.
 

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you realize Love was pretty good without LeBron right?

26 pts, 12.5 boards, 4.4 assists one year

26 points, 13.3 boards, 2.0 assists another year

20 points, 15 boards, 2.5 assists another year

those were his last 3 years in Minne besides the one year he only played 18 games with injury


i dunno about you- but averaging about 24 points, 14 boards, and 3 assists across a 3 season stretch seems decent to me....lol.

its why he is a 5 time all star and would easily be a number of teams best player- includng your Heat's.


Not going through this again.


Here’s what I know.
James is the best player in the world, combined with your Love comments and you don’t even have enough faith in them to force a game 7.

#fact
 
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