MLB Daily Thread: 08-01-16: Lucroy turns down the tribe & the Yanks fire sale

[whiskey]

he could also be Russell Branyan 2.0.

You mean he's going to break into his ex wife's house and turn her thermostat way down to make it super cold?

XD

 

[whiskey]

Actually if he put up Branyan like numbers, I'd be happy with that. It's a shame no one ever game Branyan a chance to play everyday, because he certainly warranted it. Too many GM's and managers hung up on Batting average and strikeouts. If Gallo could put up a .225/.330/.500 line I'd be satisfied with that as long as he played average defense wherever he was stationed on the field.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I posted this on the Lucroy thread before I saw this. Thought I'd dump it here too because I know how excited you all are to read my words.

So I was watching Quick Pitch this morning and saw that during a pinch hit for the Brewers by Lucroy, Brewers fans gave him not one, but two standing ovations. I got a pretty big laugh out of that.

Lucroy, in a cash grab attempt, overplayed his hand and in the process fucked the Brewers out what will likely be the best offer they'll receive for Lucroy. He also made the Brewers front office look inept because they were unaware of his intentions.

Yet here are Brewers fans, mindlessly applauding the guy as if he did it out of loyalty to the Brewers, or because he wants to remain in Milwaukee.

Funny as hell.

Sort of reminded me of when Brewers fans would defend that shit-sack, Ryan Braun, after he'd tested positive for PEDs, got off on a technicality, besmirched the piss-collector by suggesting that he was personally after Braun (even implying that the guy was anti-Semitic), only to piss hot again shortly after.

Seems like Brewers fans just clap for stuff because it's fun to clap for stuff.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Rumors are Lucroy may be heading to Texas now.

...another reason to root for Houston.

 

[navamind]

That was the best SNB game in a while.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I think the Yankees are making some brilliant moves right now. Watch out for them in two years.

Yeah, right about the time when they sign Harper away from the Nats. They'll be nasty for sure. Well, that is, if Harper learns how to not suck again.

 

[whiskey]

I posted this on the Lucroy thread before I saw this. Thought I'd dump it here to because I know how excited you all are to read my words.

So I was watching Quick Pitch this morning and saw that during a pinch hit for the Brewers by Lucroy, Brewers fans gave him not one, but two standing ovations. I got a pretty big laugh out of that.

Lucroy, in a cash grab attempt, overplayed his hand and in the process fucked the Brewers out what will likely be the best offer they'll receive for Lucroy. He also made the Brewers front office look inept because they were unaware of his intentions.

Yet here are Brewers fans, mindlessly applauding the guy as if he did it out of loyalty to the Brewers, or because he wants to remain in Milwaukee.

Funny as hell.

Sort of reminded me of when Brewers fans would defend that shit-sack, Ryan Braun, after he'd tested positive for PEDs, got off on a technicality, besmirched the piss-collector by suggesting that he was personally after Braun (even implying that the guy was anti-Semitic), only to piss hot again shortly after.

Seems like Brewers fans just clap for stuff because it's fun to clap for stuff.

I'm not a big fan of Lucroy. He's complained vocally multiple times in the last year about "wanting to play for a winner", and in spring training he basically said (in so many words) "this team sucks and it sucks we won't contend". That's a shitty thing to say about your teammates, if nothing else.

But as far as excercising that option, I won't argue that at all. He signed a super under-valued contract, with 8 teams on a no-trade list. There's money value to having a no-trade option, and it's absolutely his right to exercise it and use it as leverage. The Indians were going to trade him in the off-season, or move him around to C/1B/DH next year, and commit to Yan Gomes as their full time catcher, so Lucroy didn't see that as an optimal landing spot.

If you put a dollar value on a no-trade clause, the player has every right to exercise it, and I don't understand bearing ill will to the guy for leveraging it.

There's other reasons to dislike the guy, I just don't see this as one of them.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Seems like Brewers fans just clap for stuff because it's fun to clap for stuff.

This would have really pissed me off ten minutes ago when I was still a Brewers fan...

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

But as far as excercising that option, I won't argue that at all. He signed a super under-valued contract, with 8 teams on a no-trade list. There's money value to having a no-trade option, and it's absolutely his right to exercise it and use it as leverage.

No question about that, but there're are ways to do that without making yourself and your front office look like a collection of fucktards. It's also worth noting that his chosen method gained him jack shit.

 

[whiskey]

No question about that, but there're are ways to do that without making yourself and your front office look like a collection of fucktards. It's also worth noting that his chosen method gained him jack shit.

I think the front office DOES kind of look like a bunch of fucktards.

"Hey Jon. We know Cleveland is on your no-trade list. We're working on a trade with them. Before we announce it to ESPN and everyone, we kinda want to get your thoughts?"

Instead, they announce it first, then they talked to his agent. That IS a fucktard move.

 

[Omar 382]

Guys, guys- come on.

There Are No Villains in the Jonathan Lucroy Story | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The Indians were going to trade him in the off-season, or move him around to C/1B/DH next year, and commit to Yan Gomes as their full time catcher

That's Lucroy's and/or his agent's spin, trying to pull their feet out of their mouth.

You really think that the Indians would either trade away the #3 catcher in the game who's signed to a very team friendly deal, or make him play 1st or DH because they're staunchly standing behind Yan Gomes, who's been the least valuable catcher in baseball over the last two years?

No.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I think the front office DOES kind of look like a bunch of fucktards.

"Hey Jon. We know Cleveland is on your no-trade list. We're working on a trade with them. Before we announce it to ESPN and everyone, we kinda want to get your thoughts?"

Instead, they announce it first, then they talked to his agent. That IS a fucktard move.

I know it makes them look like fucktards. That was my whole point. There are ways he could have leveraged his no trade clause without making them look like half-wits.

Certainly, the Brewers FO demonstrated a reasonable level of ineptitude on that deal, but if I were Lucroy -- or maybe even more to the point, his agent -- I'd have reached out to the FO a week or more ago and said, "hey, you guys are working on a trade with the Indians, they're on my boy's no trade list. Let's put our heads together to see if we can come up with something that works for everyone."

 

[navamind]

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A walk-off squeeze bunt by Jon Lester. Jon Lester.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Durn...it's looking like Jay Bruce will go to the Mets. I don't care for it.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

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A walk-off squeeze bunt by Jon Lester. Jon Lester.

That equals AWESOME

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Guys, guys- come on.

There Are No Villains in the Jonathan Lucroy Story | FanGraphs Baseball

Meh. That implies that ineptitude is synonymous with villainy.

 

[apachef4]

Meh. That implies that ineptitude is synonymous with villainy.

You and your big words.

 

[navamind]

Durn...it's looking like Jay Bruce will go to the Mets. I don't care for it.

Because the Mets could use another OF that doesn't get on base and plays poor defense.

 

[whiskey]

I know it makes them look like fucktards. That was my whole point. There are ways he could have leveraged his no trade clause without making them look like half-wits.

Certainly, the Brewers FO demonstrated a reasonable level of ineptitude on that deal, but if I were Lucroy -- or maybe even more to the point, his agent -- I'd have reached out to the FO a week or more ago and said, "hey, you guys are working on a trade with the Indians, they're on my boy's no trade list. Let's put our heads together to see if we can come up with something that works for everyone."

Do we know if the agent was aware they were talking to the Indians? What we DO know is that after the trade was announced, Cleveland came back to Milwaukee and said "it's YOUR job to appease your boy, not ours". What we know for sure is Lucroy wanted his 2017 club option ripped up (not gonna happen) or possibly more money. All Lucroy is saying is "circumstances came up".