Clowney

Uhsplit · Jan 16, 2020

I say sign him. It would probably average out at a 4 year deal for $20M per year.

Sharkonabicycle · Jan 16, 2020

He was a wrecking crew for most of the season despite the sack #s and the only reason we beat the 49ers away. He was one of PFFs highest rated EDGE/DEs during the season. He'll command a hefty payday, but I think we have to pull the trigger.

Sack totals don't mean anything. Hurries/QB hits (not talking about Wentz) mean more IMO. I'll take a DE that gets more hurries/QB hits than sacks, ANY DAY. More impactful and results in interceptions/deflections/mental state which are not stats for the DE itself.

Glad we let Frank Clark go, though. He did fuck all this season.

Jikkle · Jan 25, 2020

WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

One of the top free agents in 2020 will be Seattle Seahawks defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, and Clowney has stated a team's likelihood of Super Bowl contention is a key factor for his signing. WalterFootball.com has learned from league sources that the Indianapolis Colts are one of the teams are expected to make a run at signing Clowney. The Colts have a ton of salary cap space and money to spend, and they could use an impactful player on their defensive line. Clowney would also be a great scheme fit in Matt Eberflus' defense. Signing with Indianapolis would also give Clowney the opportunity to play the Texans twice per year, and going against his former team could be a nice perk to signing with Indianapolis. There could be a competitive market for Clowney, and his preference for Super Bowl contenders could rule out some teams, but sources tell me the Colts are going to be a team in serious pursuit of the star defensive end.

Don't know how much stock to put in the rumor considering the source but I'd say they are at least more credible than some random guy on twitter or reddit.

Screamin12th · Jan 25, 2020

Jikkle said:
WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

One of the top free agents in 2020 will be Seattle Seahawks defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, and Clowney has stated a team's likelihood of Super Bowl contention is a key factor for his signing. WalterFootball.com has learned from league sources that the Indianapolis Colts are one of the teams are expected to make a run at signing Clowney. The Colts have a ton of salary cap space and money to spend, and they could use an impactful player on their defensive line. Clowney would also be a great scheme fit in Matt Eberflus' defense. Signing with Indianapolis would also give Clowney the opportunity to play the Texans twice per year, and going against his former team could be a nice perk to signing with Indianapolis. There could be a competitive market for Clowney, and his preference for Super Bowl contenders could rule out some teams, but sources tell me the Colts are going to be a team in serious pursuit of the star defensive end.

Don't know how much stock to put in the rumor considering the source but I'd say they are at least more credible than some random guy on twitter or reddit.

Clowney wants to be a part of a contender not a PRETENDER! He would sign with the Seahawks easily over the Colts if offers are identical or even if the Hawks offered a little less.

MrS · Jan 25, 2020

it will be a major disappointment if they dont sign him, especially if its to a team with no QB that wont be competing for anything but higher draft picks.

Jikkle · Jan 25, 2020

Screamin12th said:
Clowney wants to be a part of a contender not a PRETENDER! He would sign with the Seahawks easily over the Colts if offers are identical or even if the Hawks offered a little less.

If the money is reasonably close he'll resign with the Seahawks but I wouldn't put too much stock into him wanting to play for a contender because a lot of player talk like that but money talks even louder.

This upcoming contract will be the biggest he'll get in his career so he's not going to take a discount for a contending team if another team is offering millions more. There's a reason he didn't work out a long term deal with Houston and why he made sure the Seahawks wouldn't reuse the tag on him and that's because he wants to maximize the money he makes.

Colts are the most dangerous team for his services if they are serious about signing him because they simply have more cap space than they know what to do with and not a lot of people they need to spend it on and we know Seattle really doesn't overpay much for players and they typically sign guys for market value.

HaroldSeattle · Jan 25, 2020

Jikkle said:
If the money is reasonably close he'll resign with the Seahawks but I wouldn't put too much stock into him wanting to play for a contender because a lot of player talk like that but money talks even louder.

This upcoming contract will be the biggest he'll get in his career so he's not going to take a discount for a contending team if another team is offering millions more. There's a reason he didn't work out a long term deal with Houston and why he made sure the Seahawks wouldn't reuse the tag on him and that's because he wants to maximize the money he makes.

Colts are the most dangerous team for his services if they are serious about signing him because they simply have more cap space than they know what to do with and not a lot of people they need to spend it on and we know Seattle really doesn't overpay much for players and they typically sign guys for market value.

Guess we’ll see. You may be right and Colts throw a ton of money at Clowney, or maybe they have a dollar amount they want to stay under. They do have other needs like maybe a QB. In any case signing a good DL is usually expensive. Seahawks do have a decent amount of cap so won’t make any assumptions yet.

Jikkle · Jan 25, 2020

HaroldSeattle said:
Guess we’ll see. You may be right and Colts throw a ton of money at Clowney, or maybe they have a dollar amount they want to stay under. They do have other needs like maybe a QB. In any case signing a good DL is usually expensive. Seahawks do have a decent amount of cap so won’t make any assumptions yet.

Unless a big name suddenly jumps into the market the Colts won't be paying a ton for a QB in whatever direction they go and even if they did sign a QB to a huge deal they are sitting at 90 million in cap space so they would still have a lot of money to spend.

Too early to tell but I'm leaning on him not resigning with the Hawks for the moment. I think what he'd get on the open market will be more than what the Hawks will want to pay because I just feel they would've had something done already because you probably have a good idea of what he's asking for and off the top of my head they never had issues resigning guys they really want to keep.

It's still pretty early and they can get something done and they might also wait to see what his market is and if it's soft they could match whatever his best offer was.

HaroldSeattle · Jan 25, 2020

Jikkle said:
Unless a big name suddenly jumps into the market the Colts won't be paying a ton for a QB in whatever direction they go and even if they did sign a QB to a huge deal they are sitting at 90 million in cap space so they would still have a lot of money to spend.

Too early to tell but I'm leaning on him not resigning with the Hawks for the moment. I think what he'd get on the open market will be more than what the Hawks will want to pay because I just feel they would've had something done already because you probably have a good idea of what he's asking for and off the top of my head they never had issues resigning guys they really want to keep.

It's still pretty early and they can get something done and they might also wait to see what his market is and if it's soft they could match whatever his best offer was.

Think Aaron Donald is the highest paid DL in the league. at 22.5 million a year. Seahawks have just a hair under 60 million in cap space. So if they want to sign Clowney bad enough, they'll sign him. As for why they don't have him signed ? Think Clowney wants to see what the market will bear. Could be the cost is more then the Seahawks want to spend, but that's not a given. You hear so much ideal speculation and empty rumors floating around this time of year, best to not take it as gospel and you did mention something like that also.

Screamin12th · Jan 26, 2020

Hawks have $63,914,510 in cap space and that number will actually go up as Dickson is released he has a cap hit of only $866,000 ( if released ) and the Hawks Save $3,000,000. Then you got other players the Hawks part ways with like maybe Fluker $500,000 cap hit if released with a salary of 3.4 mill. I think the Hawks will be around $70,000,000 cap space when all is said and done to sign players.

Something very different from past years is the Hawks offense is taking up like 90 million in the cap and the defense is like 40 million. We know where they need to spend their money this offseason. They can afford to give Clowney 20 mill per and still have 45-55 mill in cap space.

jerseyhawksfan79 · Jan 26, 2020

Screamin12th said:
Hawks have $63,914,510 in cap space and that number will actually go up as Dickson is released he has a cap hit of only $866,000 ( if released ) and the Hawks Save $3,000,000. Then you got other players the Hawks part ways with like maybe Fluker $500,000 cap hit if released with a salary of 3.4 mill. I think the Hawks will be around $70,000,000 cap space when all is said and done to sign players.

Something very different from past years is the Hawks offense is taking up like 90 million in the cap and the defense is like 40 million. We know where they need to spend their money this offseason. They can afford to give Clowney 20 mill per and still have 45-55 mill in cap space.

They can add another serviceable FA along with Clowney and get some of our guys resigned. Money for the draft and the FO should be in good shape.

MrS · Jan 26, 2020

Justin britt is another possible cut, 8.5 cap savings. I dont think the drop off was that noticeable and theres a few really good centers in the draft

Dolemite censored · Jan 26, 2020

Uhsplit said:
I say sign him. It would probably average out at a 4 year deal for $20M per year.

That's a shit load of money for an injury prone player who might just be past his prime.

Dolemite censored · Jan 26, 2020

Dolemite censored said:
That's a shit load of money for an injury prone player who might just be past his prime.

Don't get me wrong. Seahawks should try to keep him. But you can't pay him more than Bobby Wagner.

Screamin12th · Jan 26, 2020

MrSnuggles2k2 said:
Justin britt is another possible cut, 8.5 cap savings. I dont think the drop off was that noticeable and theres a few really good centers in the draft

I think the drop off was VERY noticeable from Britt to Hunt. The Oline did a good job when Britt went down. I thought they picked up their play but the center position was not an area that improved and it did regress. Hunt is a fine player and has a big heart and fought his tail off. BUT unless he can add 20 pounds of pure muscle and get a mean streak in him he will continue to be thrown around like a rag doll out there. He is to weak to play center, hell he is to weak to play any position on this line in this style of offense. Hunt was 32nd in Snaps played in the NFL this season and was tied for 4th in most sacks allowed and 21st in penalties against.

*Stats are ranked vs other centers

MrS · Jan 27, 2020

Britt gets tossed around too, i really dont think he is that much better than average.

Anointed One · Jan 27, 2020

MrSnuggles2k2 said:
Britt gets tossed around too, i really dont think he is that much better than average.

Screamin12th · Jan 28, 2020

MrSnuggles2k2 said:
Britt gets tossed around too, i really dont think he is that much better than average.

Seahawks Justin Britt PFF's highest graded center in NFC West

Ok now i will say i don't think Britt is a probowl Center but what he is is above average and he never gets thrown around unless he has two maulers on him at the same time. I am starting to feel like you got something against Britt. I was going to throw in the old "did he steal your GF" saying but no need. But i would like to know what he did that makes you dislike him so much?

blstoker · Jan 28, 2020

Screamin12th said:
Seahawks Justin Britt PFF's highest graded center in NFC West

Ok now i will say i don't think Britt is a probowl Center but what he is is above average and he never gets thrown around unless he has two maulers on him at the same time. I am starting to feel like you got something against Britt. I was going to throw in the old "did he steal your GF" saying but no need. But i would like to know what he did that makes you dislike him so much?

he was drafted by PC/JS and wasn’t immediately great?

jerseyhawksfan79 · Jan 28, 2020

Up until the injury bug hit Britt, I think he filled in real nicely the past few seasons. Remember, this is a guy who couldn't find a spot on the line and than excelled at the C. Britt and RW have had really good chemistry so I would change it yet. They have other issues on the line that need tending too.

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