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What are your concerns going into this draft?

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Bluntly, here are mine:
1. We're back to a front office that loves the big splash in the off season. I don't want that "winning off the field" moment to come in the form of a trade that involves the QB.

2. That this draft, based on BPA, will look eerily similar to the last one, which was a 4 offensive player to 3 defensive player ratio. We have to reverse that.

3. That we minimize trading down and get real value (meaning fewer long term projects) for our picks...we have 10 of them!

4. That we don't trade our picks up prior to the 4th round.

5. Almost no experiments, want a safety, draft a safety, want a linebacker, draft a linebacker, you get the idea.

We are not far away from the beginning of this draft....what are your concerns about what happens in this draft as we approach our time on the clock?
 
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My biggest concern is the guys picking, and that we waste our first pick on best player available and not fill a position of need. In my opinion if you go with BPA it tells me you really haven't a clue. Or at least not doing the team itself any favors. To get better you have to fill your biggest hole, and hope he starts.. not add depth to a position already serviceable.
 

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if you go with BPA it tells me you really haven't a clue. Or at least not doing the team itself any favors.

The most successful player personnel people ever totally disagree with you so I'm going with them. Now there are exceptions,, Philly will not take a QB in the first and of course if the players are close you fill a need. But all the professionals say it is a mistake for long term building to pass over better players to fill a need.
 

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There's certainly a fine line with picking BPA over a positin of need. Im not suggesting that they pick a projected 2nd rounder with 17 because hes the best at a position they need filling. Im saying be smart with this pick.. and therein lies my worry. Lets say Foster and McCaff are still there at 17.. McCaff is rated higher on their board but Foster is more of a need at this time. Gotta go with Foster, but I believe Snyder will want a bigger fan base splash. Dont get me wrong,, wouldt cry over McCaff if selected just think u have to address the bigger need with 17... same with 2nd round. After that you go BPA.
 

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There's certainly a fine line with picking BPA over a positin of need. Im not suggesting that they pick a projected 2nd rounder with 17 because hes the best at a position they need filling. Im saying be smart with this pick.. and therein lies my worry. Lets say Foster and McCaff are still there at 17.. McCaff is rated higher on their board but Foster is more of a need at this time. Gotta go with Foster, but I believe Snyder will want a bigger fan base splash. Dont get me wrong,, wouldt cry over McCaff if selected just think u have to address the bigger need with 17... same with 2nd round. After that you go BPA.

Yeah I get that. I would not like to see a left tackle at 17 even if he is the BPA. As for Snyder I'm his biggest hater but I think the reputation that he is looking for the big splash pick is totally overrated. I mean just look at how many people were happy with the Scherff pick and that was hardly a big splash pick.
 

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Yeah I get that. I would not like to see a left tackle at 17 even if he is the BPA. As for Snyder I'm his biggest hater but I think the reputation that he is looking for the big splash pick is totally overrated. I mean just look at how many people were happy with the Scherff pick and that was hardly a big splash pick.



That was hardly Snyder's call though. Dan likes to give people just enough rope to look like he has learned, but you see he snatched SM back like a lap dog chasing a Squirrel when all was said and done.
 

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I mean just look at how many people were happy with the Scherff pick and that was hardly a big splash pick.
That was perhaps a SM pick who understood the need for boring pick now and again... Snyder is the GM this draft. Anything goes.
 

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My biggest concern is the guys picking, and that we waste our first pick on best player available and not fill a position of need. In my opinion if you go with BPA it tells me you really haven't a clue. Or at least not doing the team itself any favors. To get better you have to fill your biggest hole, and hope he starts.. not add depth to a position already serviceable.

BPA makes sense. There isn't a team in football that is set through all positions in any area. You take BPA to give yourself the best chance at success on that pick.

There are obviously positions that are weighted greater in the BPA world such as QB and LT. There are also positions that are weighted less such as RB and ILB.

That is why I like BVA.
 

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100% believe in BPA. You can never have too many good players.

I am not expecting the big splash pick. I understand why people are worried but I don't think that is going to be the case.

I would not be surprised a few weeks after the draft to see Scott Campbell promoted to GM. SC in for SM.
 

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100% believe in BPA. You can never have too many good players.

I am not expecting the big splash pick. I understand why people are worried but I don't think that is going to be the case.

I would not be surprised a few weeks after the draft to see Scott Campbell promoted to GM. SC in for SM.


Just as long as no one starts a new twitter campaign of #InScottWeStillTrust

Cause that might be a death sentence for his career as GM of the Redskins. :thumb:
 

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The Falcons need strong side pass rushers, depth along the lines and a CB.
 

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That was perhaps a SM pick who understood the need for boring pick now and again... Snyder is the GM this draft. Anything goes.

My point was plenty of people got excited over the pick, even if it was a controversial pick to many of us. It's a false claim that fans only get excited at QB, WR so called "sexy" picks. Nearly everyone loved the Trent pick. Especially around here where OL is so revered. Fans today recognize the need for good players in the trenches, there is no need for a "big splash" pick whatever that is.
 

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1.We draft an offensive lineman with our 17th pick.

2. We take a WR at 17

3. We trade to many picks to move up a few spots in the draft
 

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They're going to make bizarre off the wall picks in the high rounds. I just have no faith that they know what they're doing. They're going to pick guys a round higher than they should go.
 

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1. We take a QB in the first 4 rounds thinking that will give us some type of leverage with Kirk. We have none and all that will do is push Kirk further away.

2. We place too much stock in character. Let me give you guys some names.
L. Taylor
D. Manley
J. Crowder
E. Elliott
C. Newton
D. Marino....we all know why he fell.

For every Lawrence Phillips and A. Hernandez, there are the guys listed above who live on the edge, but ball out on Sundays and in some cases end up in the Hall of Fame.

3. Passing up on a potential game changing running back to select a D lineman that will be average or slightly above average because we feel we need one.

4. Skins offense stalls because we though we could replace Desean Jackson and P. Garçon with a former QB and a guy that can't or won't get on the field. So we pass on RB to grab a couple of defensive guys who are not difference makers and our defense is still toward the bottom of the league and now our offense is just average and we fall to 6-10.

For the record, I'm not RB or bust. Foster and Reddick would not hurt my feelings. Guys like Watt, Lamp, McDowell, etc....over Cook, Mixon, or McCaffrey would.
 

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My point was plenty of people got excited over the pick, even if it was a controversial pick to many of us. It's a false claim that fans only get excited at QB, WR so called "sexy" picks. Nearly everyone loved the Trent pick. Especially around here where OL is so revered. Fans today recognize the need for good players in the trenches, there is no need for a "big splash" pick whatever that is.

This is true. I have been guilty of this in the past. I was pissed when we took Chris Samuels. I wanted Peter Warrick. Lol. It happens.
 

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1. We take a QB in the first 4 rounds thinking that will give us some type of leverage with Kirk. We have none and all that will do is push Kirk further away.

2. We place too much stock in character. Let me give you guys some names.
L. Taylor
D. Manley
J. Crowder
E. Elliott
C. Newton
D. Marino....we all know why he fell.

For every Lawrence Phillips and A. Hernandez, there are the guys listed above who live on the edge, but ball out on Sundays and in some cases end up in the Hall of Fame.

3. Passing up on a potential game changing running back to select a D lineman that will be average or slightly above average because we feel we need one.

4. Skins offense stalls because we though we could replace Desean Jackson and P. Garçon with a former QB and a guy that can't or won't get on the field. So we pass on RB to grab a couple of defensive guys who are not difference makers and our defense is still toward the bottom of the league and now our offense is just average and we fall to 6-10.

For the record, I'm not RB or bust. Foster and Reddick would not hurt my feelings. Guys like Watt, Lamp, McDowell, etc....over Cook, Mixon, or McCaffrey would.

I totally agree with you on the first part. If character was so important we'd have a roster with 52 choir boys and a Boy Scout. No you need players and like it or not many great players have an edge. Think Dallas regrets taking Dez?

A lot of GMs say they won't take bad character guys, then we see a week after saying this SM signs Jr Galette who was cut from a team desperate for defensive help due to off the field stuff. I say within reason do not shy away from taking guys like this, Al Davis built champions this way before he went crazy.
 

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What are your concerns going into this draft?

Same as every other year. Another draft has rolled around and I'm a fan of a team that doesn't know what the fuck its doing.
 
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