Barry sucks moose dong

[Caliskinsfan]

think we could have one at least one of the Dallas games, the Lions game and possibly the Cardinals game with a better defense.

 

[j_y19]

Yes, they made a couple of plays today. But our defense sucks. Bottom line. And it's probably both poor talent and poor coaching. They couldn't stop wentz in the first half. Wentz. Not rothlesberger, not stafford, but Carson Wentz. If they didn't lose their long snapper or make a stupid challenge, forfeiting a very needed timeout on their last drive, this game might have turned out differently.

 

[chillerdab]

I'm not a Barry fan, but how exactly did RK bail him out when he was just doing his job?

Because Barry was calling a terrible game, and Kerrigan's strip sack fumble saved what would have inevitably been calls to (correctly) replace Barry at season's end.

Is it really that hard, Breed?

 

[chillerdab]

With even an average defense, or, at the very least, THIS EXACT DEFENSE with just the LEAGUE AVERAGE on 3rd down, the redskins are firmly in the playoffs with wins over the Lions and Bengals.

That's not really debatable. The third down defense is on pace to become the single worst third down defense since they started following that stat. They are spectacularly bad on third down. They are worse than the teams that are statistically worse then they are this year, by a LARGE margin. Think about THAT one...

 

[j_y19]

With even an average defense, or, at the very least, THIS EXACT DEFENSE with just the LEAGUE AVERAGE on 3rd down, the redskins are firmly in the playoffs with wins over the Lions and Bengals.

That's not really debatable. The third down defense is on pace to become the single worst third down defense since they started following that stat. They are spectacularly bad on third down. They are worse than the teams that are statistically worse then they are this year, by a LARGE margin. Think about THAT one...

And that is primarily due to the fact that we just don't have enough playmakers on defense. Guys that step up, like Kerrigan did today, and beat his man to make a play on the ball. When was the last time we saw a safety ball hawk on a long pass? We have Ryan and josh on defense that have this ability. That's it. We have 6 or 8 guys on offense that can do it.

 

[Breed]

70+ plays for the Iggles vs. 40+ plays for the Skins means the D had a hard time getting off the field.

That being said 6 points were on Cousins and the offense. I think we could have one at least one of the Dallas games, the Lions game and possibly the Cardinals game with a better defense.

W/O question. Shit, with the defense the Skins have now. They could've won those games with the Cards game being the only plusible exception.

 

[Breed]

True. But you gotta call that botched hold luck. That was a huge turning point in the game.

If you wanna view that as luck, cool. It certainly was fortunate for the Skins and they capitaliozed on it, It ain't mad at em. It was a 50 yd FG though. So it wasn'yt a gimme chip shot.

 

[Breed]

Re-watch the last few series, I saw Kerrigan on the sideline for quite a bit and not sure why.

Maybe he got dinged up. Benching him, if only for a seies or couple plays for punishment or being upset with him seems unlikely. At least to me

 

[Breed]

And btw, Jackson's effort on that play left me questioning his commitment to his team. He is supposedly the fastest guy on the field and not only did he not make every effort to break up the pick, he gave half an effort to chase down the DB imo.

If you don't like Djax just say so. No need to make up bullshit about him though and what you posted is some bullshit.

 

[Breed]

Because Barry was calling a terrible game, and Kerrigan's strip sack fumble saved what would have inevitably been calls to (correctly) replace Barry at season's end.

Is it really that hard, Breed?

You got me wondering that about you. RK didn't bail Barry out. There are serious issues with the Redskins defensive play and Barry's schemes imo. At that point in the game though somebody needed to step up and make a play. That bitch 3rd dn was just around the corner. Thank goodness they were wearing burgundy & gold and kudos it was RK. And that's what it was, RK making a key play at az key moment in the game.

 

[skinz2winz]

If you don't like Djax just say so. No need to make up bullshit about him though and what you posted is some bullshit.

Um, yeah, excuse me for expecting your best effort on every play regardless of whether it goes our way or not. Other than that play, DJ balled out. Like him just fine. Re-read my post about resigning him.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

And that is primarily due to the fact that we just don't have enough playmakers on defense. Guys that step up, like Kerrigan did today, and beat his man to make a play on the ball. When was the last time we saw a safety ball hawk on a long pass? We have Ryan and josh on defense that have this ability. That's it. We have 6 or 8 guys on offense that can do it.

I agree with you for the most part. However - P. Smith should also be making plays on occasion but has been invisible for most of the season save for a few big plays. Breeland should also be playing better. That falls on these players, but I also partially put this on the coaches for not getting the best out of these guys. Also - for God sakes put Whittner on the bench - anyone could do a better job.

 

[deanpet21]

If you wanna view that as luck, cool. It certainly was fortunate for the Skins and they capitaliozed on it, It ain't mad at em. It was a 50 yd FG though. So it wasn'yt a gimme chip shot.

No but the Eagles kicker is having a very good year this year. It was a huge turning point b/c I believe on that drive is where we went up by with the TD to Garcon. Then Kc let them back in the game with the pick 6.

 

[skinz2winz]

The Giants defensive game plan last night vs Dallas was a thing of beauty and way beyond Barry's comprehension.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Barry May Be Qualified, but WSH Hiring Process Looks Flawed

Hmm - doing a little searching & ran across this. Not sure anyone can trust Bleacher Report, but this is interesting. Perhaps some of you pointed this out when it happened. It appears that Barry was more of an Allen hire & not one made mainly by SM or Gruden. If so & given the results over the last few years I think that they need to take a hard look at whether he should be retained.

They pointed out some of Barry's highlights in this article, but they don't seem too impressive to me & none revolve around his time as an NFL D coordinator. Again - just stating that he has not has had adequate talent on D should not give him a free pass IMO.

 

[deanpet21]

Barry May Be Qualified, but WSH Hiring Process Looks Flawed

Hmm - doing a little searching & ran across this. Not sure anyone can trust Bleacher Report, but this is interesting. Perhaps some of you pointed this out when it happened. It appears that Barry was more of an Allen hire & not one made mainly by SM or Gruden. If so & given the results over the last few years I think that they need to take a hard look at whether he should be retained.

They pointed out some of Barry's highlights in this article, but they don't seem too impressive to me & none revolve around his time as an NFL D coordinator. Again - just stating that he has not has had adequate talent on D should not give him a free pass IMO.

Someone told me that Barry was a Gruden hire. Wade Phillps was also interviewed but somehow was passed over. As far as coaching hires the head coach might have the final say over the GM and team President. IF you compare both resumes its not even close that Wade should of been hired. that decision is costing us now.

 

[skinsdad62]

ok what is joe barry calling or not calling you guys are bitching about ? the tapes and breakdowns i have seen are mostly mental errors by the players , yesterdays game you saw break down after break down

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Brewer makes some good points

Redskins defense is good when it has to be in win over Eagles

 

[SoCalWizFan]

ok what is joe barry calling or not calling you guys are bitching about ? the tapes and breakdowns i have seen are mostly mental errors by the players , yesterdays game you saw break down after break down

You are focusing on the play calling which has issues. I am more concerned with him bringing out the best especially in younger players. Coaching is not just about game day planning. It is about developing and motivating players & I see regression in that area. If you are going to counter that this 100% on the player (& also give Barry a pass on game day issues since he doesn't have the talent) then why does a team even need a coach?

Please again tell me what does Barry bring to the table. I don't want to hear about what he doesn't have to work with but rather what he does to help this team. I just don't see it - educate me.

BTW - those mental errors in many cases have to also fall on the coaches - they have to put players in the best situations & prepare during the week & year to minimize these types of things. I agree that it mainly falls on the players but not completely.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Here is a nugget from the Brewer article posted above...

You wouldn’t take this defense — that raggedy, underdeveloped, talent-deficient unit with a much-criticized coordinator — every day of the week. But when the clock strikes 4 p.m. on Sunday, it finishes like few defenses can.

Washington’s success in this area doesn’t absolve Barry from scrutiny, and it doesn’t diminish the need for General Manager Scot McCloughan to make some shrewd investments in the defense in the offseason. It does indicate, however, that something positive is being built. The weaknesses obstruct most of the good. But Washington has players on defense who will fight and who possess the toughness and belief that they can find a way, no matter how ugly they make it look.

What’s that worth? Good question. But the value isn’t zero.