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POLL If Clemson loses, who gets in?

If Clemson loses, who gets in?

  • Michigan

    Votes: 15 45.5%
  • Oklahoma/Oklahoma State

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Penn State/Wisconsin

    Votes: 13 39.4%
  • Western Michigan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other ... please specify

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Potato Salad

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Clemson

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .

Voltaire26

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I say Michigan, because they have beaten both Penn State and Wisconsin. Also, ohio state/Michigan II would be a huge ratings. Michigan two losses were by a total of 4 points with 2 AP/Coaches ranked teams. Of course I am a homer who sees the world through Maize & Blue sunglasses.

What do others think
 

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I say Michigan, because they have beaten both Penn State and Wisconsin. Also, ohio state/Michigan II would be a huge ratings. Michigan two losses were by a total of 4 points with 2 AP/Coaches ranked teams. Of course I am a homer who sees the world through Maize & Blue sunglasses.

What do others think
Agree. I may get killed for this from the Dawg crew, but I'm not sure the Huskies should be in. If Baylor was punished in '14 for their OOC, then why isn't Washington this year? The committee has said they want to encourage teams to schedule better OOC games. If they don't reward doing that, then teams will just schedule 3-4 cupcakes, and be a lot better off.
 

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zero chance the committee could put in two B1G teams with neither of them even playing for the CCG, more or less crowned conference champs. Just don't see that happening.
 

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Agree. I may get killed for this from the Dawg crew, but I'm not sure the Huskies should be in. If Baylor was punished in '14 for their OOC, then why isn't Washington this year? The committee has said they want to encourage teams to schedule better OOC games. If they don't reward doing that, then teams will just schedule 3-4 cupcakes, and be a lot better off.
They should be in because the committee has already taken their OOC into account and ranked them 4th for it. They then went out and undressed the team they ranked 8th. Nothing more, and nothing less. Any discussion over whether or not they should have been 4th is already well hashed and now irrelevant for tomorrow's final rankings.
 

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zero chance the committee could put in two B1G teams with neither of them even playing for the CCG, more or less crowned conference champs. Just don't see that happening.
Why not? It IS Michigan and Ohio State...two of the biggest names in CFB.
 

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They should be in because the committee has already taken their OOC into account and ranked them 4th for it. They then went out and undressed the team they ranked 8th. Nothing more, and nothing less. Any discussion over whether or not they should have been 4th is already well hashed and now irrelevant for tomorrow's final rankings.
True. But totally inconsistent with what they stated in '14.

I'm not dissing Washington. I'm a Peterson fan through and through. Just point out how the committee seems to talk out of both sides of their mouth.
 

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Why not? It IS Michigan and Ohio State...two of the biggest names in CFB.
Then blow up and eliminate the conference championship games. They are utterly useless and entirely functionally broken.
 

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Depends if it's a blowout loss or close game. If it's close, Clemson still gets in.
 

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Then blow up and eliminate the conference championship games. They are utterly useless and entirely functionally broken.
Or just blow up conference championships totally...championship games or not. A conference champion is going to always be left out regardless...even if they pick four like they have the past two years.
 

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True. But totally inconsistent with what they stated in '14.

I'm not dissing Washington. I'm a Peterson fan through and through. Just point out how the committee seems to talk out of both sides of their mouth.
Why would any of us take any of this personally? None of our fans would argue that our OOC slate wasn't totally worthless, and will be again next year. I freaking hate that you have to schedule these out so far in advance and can't make changes easily. The rest of our slate was who the conference put in front of us.

I've said all along that once UW lost a game it's not in their hands to get an invite. If they didn't make it in they only had themselves to blame. Any team with one or more losses is at the mercy of a system that is fraught with inconsistencies and problems.

But the committee has put themselves in the position to basically have to put UW in no matter what their shitty schedule was or how much struggle they had vs USC or their close wins.
 

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They should be in because the committee has already taken their OOC into account and ranked them 4th for it. They then went out and undressed the team they ranked 8th. Nothing more, and nothing less. Any discussion over whether or not they should have been 4th is already well hashed and now irrelevant for tomorrow's final rankings.

I would hope this is a given. Washington with one loss has earned it. But you have to admit Idaho and Portland State are pretty lame.
 

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If head to head left the B1G with TWO of their best teams not even going to their championship game then change how you select your division champions because this system didn't do its job. Tie it to the playoff rankings or find another way to make sure your top teams are represented in your biggest game.
 

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Agree. I may get killed for this from the Dawg crew, but I'm not sure the Huskies should be in. If Baylor was punished in '14 for their OOC, then why isn't Washington this year? The committee has said they want to encourage teams to schedule better OOC games. If they don't reward doing that, then teams will just schedule 3-4 cupcakes, and be a lot better off.

Baylor didn't have a CCG and win, that is why they were bounced. Most teams already schedule 2-3 cupcakes a year.
 

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I would hope this is a given. Washington with one loss has earned it. But you have to admit Idaho and Portland State are pretty lame.
Said that in the post above yours, and said it all year. I'm a season ticket holder and it PISSES me off that I have to pay so much money to see such garbage games. I bitched about this schedule all off season. There's nothing for me to have to admit.

You have a system in place and under that system UW has earned the right to go get slaughtered by Bama. It is what it is.
 

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Said that in the post above yours, and said it all year. I'm a season ticket holder and it PISSES me off that I have to pay so much money to see such garbage games. I bitched about this schedule all off season. There's nothing for me to have to admit.

You have a system in place and under that system UW has earned the right to go get slaughtered by Bama. It is what it is.

I wouldn't bet the ranch on that. You guys dismantled Colorado yesterday.
 
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I would bet the ranch on that. You guys dismantled Colorado yesterday.
I'm assuming you mean wouldn't bet the ranch? :noidea:

UW's defense is probably good enough to keep bama's offense from running up the score, but no team is going to get much done against their defense. There are probably a couple of NFL teams that wouldn't get much done against it either. They are ridiculously stacked on that side of the ball.
 

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I'm assuming you mean wouldn't bet the ranch? :noidea:

UW's defense is probably good enough to keep bama's offense from running up the score, but no team is going to get much done against their defense. There are probably a couple of NFL teams that wouldn't get much done against it either. They are ridiculously stacked on that side of the ball.

You would assume correctly. I fixed it ... Thank you.
 

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Said that in the post above yours, and said it all year. I'm a season ticket holder and it PISSES me off that I have to pay so much money to see such garbage games. I bitched about this schedule all off season. There's nothing for me to have to admit.

You have a system in place and under that system UW has earned the right to go get slaughtered by Bama. It is what it is.
Don't think so. Might not win but I don't see Peterson getting slaughtered.
 

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Beth Mowins gets in....the booth, to call the pending B1G on B1G nooner.
 
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