Pats trade Jamie Collins

[ATL96Steeler]

Right. Not having Collins for the rest of the season seems to be a pretty high price to pay for that.

It would but now I understand it was their comp pick (per Moose), which makes it more of a head scratcher.

 

[mcnabb7542]

He called Jisselle ugly

 

[ATL96Steeler]

The Browns pick is a compensatory pick, so it would be in the same range, just a year earlier.

Okay...a '17 draft pick from CLE vs an '18 if they left Collins walk...the way they seem to plug guys in and not miss a beat...if they weren't going to retain him, this ain't all that bad.

 

[Money]

It would but now I understand it was their comp pick (per Moose), which makes it more of a head scratcher.

No...it wouldn't have. You don't trade a pro bowler in the middle of a season when you are a SB favorite to move 30 spots up in the 3rd round of the upcoming draft.

 

[NYYFAN126]

No...it wouldn't have. You don't trade a pro bowler in the middle of a season when you are a SB favorite to move 30 spots up in the 3rd round of the upcoming draft.

maybe he F*@#ed Giselle?

 

[jarntt]

"No one fucks my daughter but me!" -- BB

that friggin gets me every friggin time!!!

 

[Hank Kingsley]

No...it wouldn't have. You don't trade a pro bowler in the middle of a season when you are a SB favorite to move 30 spots up in the 3rd round of the upcoming draft.

They are still the Super Bowl favourite. Nobody else is close.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

No...it wouldn't have. You don't trade a pro bowler in the middle of a season when you are a SB favorite to move 30 spots up in the 3rd round of the upcoming draft.

Agree, most teams don't, but NE did and they have a history of moving good players in their prime.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

They are still the Super Bowl favourite. Nobody else is close.

They are and should be, but IDK nobody being close...that's not a great DEF with Collins, I can't imagine it will improve w/o him.

 

[Money]

Agree, most teams don't, but NE did and they have a history of moving good players in their prime.

Have they traded a pro bowl player in the middle of the season like this before?

 

[Money]

They are still the Super Bowl favourite. Nobody else is close.

So they're giving other teams a fighting chance. Very charitable of them.

 

[jarntt]

Okay...a '17 draft pick from CLE vs an '18 if they left Collins walk...the way they seem to plug guys in and not miss a beat...if they weren't going to retain him, this ain't all that bad.

No, it's horrible. What about this year? The goal is to win games and SBs. Why unload one of your best players to get a 3rd round pick a year earlier? If that was all there was to it, why not get a draft pick in the 2016 draft and get two years head start?

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Have they traded a pro bowl player in the middle of the season like this before?

Not to my knowledge, and I get what you're saying in terms of precedent. But the point being, the name on the jersey (other than Brady) doesn't seem to matter than much in NE. You're replaceable.

 

[TP76]

Collins' trade value was at its highest and Belichick wasn't going to sign Hightower, Collins and Butler (all free agents at the end of the season).... something had to give.

I thought Butler might be the odd man out - evidently not.

 

[flyingelvis]

Not to my knowledge, and I get what you're saying in terms of precedent. But the point being, the name on the jersey (other than Brady) doesn't seem to matter than much in NE. You're replaceable.

Lawyer Milloy. And they won the SB that year.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

No, it's horrible. What about this year? The goal is to win games and SBs. Why unload one of your best players to get a 3rd round pick a year earlier? If that was all there was to it, why not get a draft pick in the 2016 draft and get two years head start?

Trading a pro bowl player mid season? I totally get it.

But, that's the way NE rolls...I'd love to see it come back and bite them in the butt in the playoffs...but if they feel they have guy to plug in his spot and the DEF won't suffer...getting a 3rd comp in '17 vs '18 is not all bad. If they don't have a player to plug in, I agree, it's horrible.

 

[redseat]

I don't understand this at all. I thought the whole point of shipping off Chandler Jones was so they could have money for Collins. Instead, they ship off Collins for a third round pick, which is probably what they would have gotten as a compensatory pick had they lost him in free agency anyway.

Either Collins did something awful that we just haven't heard about yet, or Bill Belichick decided to make the worst trade he could think of to see if he would still be labeled a genius.

Exactly what I thought as well too. I really am not liking this trade at all, regardless of who the Pats may or may not get in return or if they are trading for someone else. I mean Collins has been good, yes his production has gone down a little bit but do basically throw him away... That's just stupid!

 

[Hank Kingsley]

They are and should be, but IDK nobody being close...that's not a great DEF with Collins, I can't imagine it will improve w/o him.

Watch them get better now.

 

[Clayton]

I don't like this trade for NE.

Its basically getting rid of a good player for the remainder of a season to get a 3rd rounder a year earlier which is basically a 4th round value. This playoff run is worth more than a late 4th round value.

 

[Moab]

I thought the rule was you couldn't trade compensatory picks. If that's the case, this trade may be just for the 4th rounder, and that's it... something doesn't make sense