2015-16 NBA Eastern Conference OFFICIAL THREAD

[trojanfan12]

Jordan was by far the biggest positive recipient of this. He came at the ideal time to take over like he did. What he did couldnt have been done pre- Magic-Bird----- and isnt possible in todays world of social media. He hit the sweet spot and took advantage big time.

Yeah he did. Talk about your perfect timing. It's only been over the past several years or so that we've started learning about some the crap he was up to.

 

[WiggyRuss]

3rd throguh 6th in the East are seperated by a half game....pretty crazy...

Hawks/Celtics/Heat/Bobcats......

I think the Celtics would probably win a series vs. any of those 3 other teams the way they are playing----- as i said very very early in the year- I think the Celtics are an up and coming contender and on eventual collision course with the Cavs.....If the Celtics end up with homecourt- and then go into an offseason with tons of valuable picks and cap space- you can be assured that next year i iwll be pickingthem as #2 and the Cavs main competition in the East...

no one else in the East has the same combination of talent/coaching/assets cap space/- all though i think the best thing the Celts have going for them is mental toughness and depth....

my IDEAL playoffs?--- Pistons vs. Cavs round one--- always fun t oplay the pistons in the post season---- Cavs vs. Heat round 2- would LOVE to see it- i dont know how any real NBA fan would not love to see this potentially very engaging story line of LeBron and Gilbert vs. the sHeat....then Cavs vs. Boston ECF......

it would be a lot of fun in April and May if those were the matchups! lets hope they happen.

 

[WiggyRuss]

the Cavs give up the least points in the East and score the 2nd most points in the East (2nda fter Boston).....thats some pretty darn good consistency on both sides of the ball.

 

[bksballer89]

the Cavs give up the least points in the East and score the 2nd most points in the East (2nda fter Boston).....thats some pretty darn good consistency on both sides of the ball.

But 8 teams in the east have a better fg% def.

Fg% def is more important than points allowed

 

[bksballer89]

Also 5 teams in the east have a better defensive efficiency

 

[Heatles84]

But 8 teams in the east have a better fg% def.

Fg% def is more important than points allowed

Like I said, Wiggy cherry picks his stats. That's why I went with opp. FG%. If you're a fast-paced offensive team, of course you're going to allow more offensive possessions, thus making ppg flawed. However, the Dubs allow a large amount of ppg, but they only allow 43.5 FG%. This is because they play at a rapidly quick pace.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Like I said, Wiggy cherry picks his stats. That's why I went with opp. FG%. If you're a fast-paced offensive team, of course you're going to allow more offensive possessions, thus making ppg flawed. However, the Dubs allow a large amount of ppg, but they only allow 43.5 FG%. This is because they play at a rapidly quick pace.

cherry picking ? i gave both the defensive stat and offensive stat on points allowed points given up--- how the EFF is that cherry picking? just because you like a different stat more?

unreal....just pure and simple stupidity on both your parts--- the DEFINITION of cherry picking is what bskballer just did----cite the defensive stat without going into its offensive equiavalent just because one shows a better story for him....


but you big baby heat fans are about to get pounded by the Cavs if you are lucky enough to play---get in all your shots now--- because pretty soon- sometime in the next 6 weeks---- its all gonna come up Cavs and your HEat are gonna get THRASHED.....

hopefully unlike last year when you guys choked your balls off- you actually get the privilege of facing the Cavs this year. We can see what the Heats best team can do- because the team isnt getting any better next year WE KNOW THAT- they cant even bring the same team back they have right now- let alone add to it.

 

[bksballer89]

Rate my post bullshit all you want. Numbers don't lie.

Nobody judge best defensive teams by points allowed because pace of play dictates that. Opp fg% and most importantly def eff are the 2 best ways to judge the best overall defensive teams.

Last year the Heat were top 5 in OPP PPG allowed I believe and that was the worse Heat defensive team I seen in years.

 

[bksballer89]

cherry picking ? i gave both the defensive stat and offensive stat on points allowed points given up--- how the EFF is that cherry picking? just because you like a different stat more?

unreal....just pure and simple stupidity on both your parts--- the DEFINITION of cherry picking is what bskballer just did----cite the defensive stat without going into its offensive equiavalent just because one shows a better story for him....


but you big baby heat fans are about to get pounded by the Cavs if you are lucky enough to play---get in all your shots now--- because pretty soon- sometime in the next 6 weeks---- its all gonna come up Cavs and your HEat are gonna get THRASHED.....

hopefully unlike last year when you guys choked your balls off- you actually get the privilege of facing the Cavs this year. We can see what the Heats best team can do- because the team isnt getting any better next year WE KNOW THAT- they cant even bring the same team back they have right now- let alone add to it.

Points per game and points allowed are useless stats to judge best offensive and defensive teams. I didn't say anything about the Cavs offense because there are other actual stats to back up claims to being a good/great offensive team. There are several defensive stats that proves the Cavs are not the top defensive team in the East

 

[Heatles84]

cherry picking ? i gave both the defensive stat and offensive stat on points allowed points given up--- how the EFF is that cherry picking? just because you like a different stat more?

unreal....just pure and simple stupidity on both your parts--- the DEFINITION of cherry picking is what bskballer just did----cite the defensive stat without going into its offensive equiavalent just because one shows a better story for him....


but you big baby heat fans are about to get pounded by the Cavs if you are lucky enough to play---get in all your shots now--- because pretty soon- sometime in the next 6 weeks---- its all gonna come up Cavs and your HEat are gonna get THRASHED.....

hopefully unlike last year when you guys choked your balls off- you actually get the privilege of facing the Cavs this year. We can see what the Heats best team can do- because the team isnt getting any better next year WE KNOW THAT- they cant even bring the same team back they have right now- let alone add to it.

My memory is horrible. But what happened the last time the Heat and Cavs met?

 

[bksballer89]

cherry picking ? i gave both the defensive stat and offensive stat on points allowed points given up--- how the EFF is that cherry picking? just because you like a different stat more?

unreal....just pure and simple stupidity on both your parts--- the DEFINITION of cherry picking is what bskballer just did----cite the defensive stat without going into its offensive equiavalent just because one shows a better story for him....


but you big baby heat fans are about to get pounded by the Cavs if you are lucky enough to play---get in all your shots now--- because pretty soon- sometime in the next 6 weeks---- its all gonna come up Cavs and your HEat are gonna get THRASHED.....

hopefully unlike last year when you guys choked your balls off- you actually get the privilege of facing the Cavs this year. We can see what the Heats best team can do- because the team isnt getting any better next year WE KNOW THAT- they cant even bring the same team back they have right now- let alone add to it.

This isn't the Heat best team considering their best player has been out since before the AS break.

What team can ever bring back the same team from the previous season? Players come and go every offseason on every team.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Rate my post bullshit all you want. Numbers don't lie.

Nobody judge best defensive teams by points allowed because pace of play dictates that. Opp fg% and most importantly def eff are the 2 best ways to judge the best overall defensive teams.

Last year the Heat were top 5 in OPP PPG allowed I believe and that was the worse Heat defensive team I seen in years.

of COURSE there are different statistics- at least have a SHRED of credibility and if you are going to give the defensive side- give the offensive side like i did--- but u wont- because it doesnt tell the story you want---

i just did the fastest and must simple stats you can get- points given up- points scored- of course those are flawed because of pace etc---- but if you have SUCH a slow pace- wouldnt your offense suffer?-- THATS why i posted the stats--- because its INCREDIBILY difficult to BOTH give up the LEAST points and SCORE the most points (well 2nd most to the Celtics in the conference)

you can spin it ALL you want--- but the fact that hte Cavs give up the LEAST points in the Conference- and SCORe the 2nd most in the Conference- shows what a well balanced team they are.

 

[Heatles84]

Rate my post bullshit all you want. Numbers don't lie.

Nobody judge best defensive teams by points allowed because pace of play dictates that. Opp fg% and most importantly def eff are the 2 best ways to judge the best overall defensive teams.

Last year the Heat were top 5 in OPP PPG allowed I believe and that was the worse Heat defensive team I seen in years.

He rates it bullshit because he doesn't like stats. He did the same to me. It's the ultimate show of saltiness....because he knows we're right.

"You guys are so stupid. Showing me stats like that means anything to me herpa derpa. We have Kyrie Irving and Lebron James" - Wiggy

 

[bksballer89]

My memory is horrible. But what happened the last time the Heat and Cavs met?

Would be nice to see the Cavs actually compete for once in Miami....that would be nice

 

[WiggyRuss]

This isn't the Heat best team considering their best player has been out since before the AS break.

What team can ever bring back the same team from the previous season? Players come and go every offseason on every team.

im just saying--- even if the HEat wanted to they couldnt bring this teams core back with Whiteside and Johnson due for huge raises. Heat are in a unique position this year paying very little for Whiteside and Johnsons deals- that ends in the offseason when both will get huge raises that will either eat up the Heats cap space- or force the Heat to get rid of those guys- or Wade.

 

[bksballer89]

of COURSE there are different statistics- at least have a SHRED of credibility and if you are going to give the defensive side- give the offensive side like i did--- but u wont- because it doesnt tell the story you want---

i just did the fastest and must simple stats you can get- points given up- points scored- of course those are flawed because of pace etc---- but if you have SUCH a slow pace- wouldnt your offense suffer?-- THATS why i posted the stats--- because its INCREDIBILY difficult to BOTH give up the LEAST points and SCORE the most points (well 2nd most to the Celtics in the conference)

you can spin it ALL you want--- but the fact that hte Cavs give up the LEAST points in the Conference- and SCORe the 2nd most in the Conference- shows what a well balanced team they are.

I clearly stated I did not say anything about the offensive numbers because the actual stats that everyone use to judge top offensive teams show that the cavs are a top 5 offensive team. No need for me to bring up offensive numbers when I never said a negative word about the cavs offense. You're trying to fool the idiots on here to thinking the cavs defense is some top defensive team which is false

 

[WiggyRuss]

I clearly stated I did not say anything about the offensive numbers because the actual stats that everyone use to judge top offensive teams show that the cavs are a top 5 offensive team. No need for me to bring up offensive numbers when I never said a negative word about the cavs offense. You're trying to fool the idiots on here to thinking the cavs defense is some top defensive team which is false

have some CREDIBILITY and bring up BOTH if your ognna bring up one you sorry sack of dog shit. you say I AM THE ONE cherry picking LOL you just ADMITTED to it. unbelievable....seriously unbelievable.

 

[Heatles84]

have some CREDIBILITY and bring up BOTH if your ognna bring up one you sorry sack of dog shit. you say I AM THE ONE cherry picking LOL you just ADMITTED to it. unbelievable....seriously unbelievable.

Oh boy, Wiggy's having a tit fit now.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I clearly stated I did not say anything about the offensive numbers because the actual stats that everyone use to judge top offensive teams show that the cavs are a top 5 offensive team. No need for me to bring up offensive numbers when I never said a negative word about the cavs offense. You're trying to fool the idiots on here to thinking the cavs defense is some top defensive team which is false

lol again-yo u can attach what ever kind of narrative you want

i gave 2 simple stats

the Cavs give up the last points in the East- Score the 2nd most points in the East

if you dont like the stats- i dont really care- it shows how well balanced the Cavs are--- a team like Miami- gives up the 2nd least points in the East- and score the 11th most points in the East--- obviously we can tell that Miami is not a well balanced team.

 

[Heatles84]

We bring up defensive stats, as this is usually the barometer in which teams that win the championship are measured. Don't believe me, go find one NBA team that has won the title in the last 15 years that wasn't ranked in the top 10. There may be one, and that team was probably 11th.