2015-16 NBA Eastern Conference OFFICIAL THREAD

[WiggyRuss]

and btw, the liar DID say that. which is why most of us here give this clown such a hard way to go when he first washed up here...

I haven o clue who this Klaw guy is- and i sign on and hes talking about me and stuff he claims i said years ago and i dont even know him!

I say nothing to him- i sign on and see posts like 291

"Who's the dumbass that said that? Let me guess...Wiggy."

I dont know this guy, go out of MY WAY to stay away from his idiocy- and i sign on and see him insulting me for absolutely no apparent reason.


"Alright fine. It's just Wiggy that's a dumb prick." "Cavs fans on this board...delusional, bandwagon, stupid as fuck...I'd name more but I don't have the time."
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AGain- I SAY NOTHING TO THE GUY- and he just insults me when I was debating with TurnuptheHeat about the Thompson contract....of course it gets heated between me and turnuptheheat- but were ACTUALLY having a basketball conversation--- this worthless piece of shit out of no where gets personal with insults while saying absolutely NOTHING about basketball.

Get a fucking life man. I get in heated discussions ALL The time on this thing with many people- but i have to say- besides DJ- you are the one who just brings NOTHING to the table except trying to piggyback off of other peoples posts and throwing out personal insults. THATS why I was wondering what "shithole" you are from. lol.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I've read things that Wiggy wrote that I perceived as crazy, but he never ( that I saw) predicted the Cavs to beat the Bulls record.

I doubt any team ever breaks it, because we are now in the era of resting players and not putting much importance into the end of the season once your seed is pretty much established.

The East has improved over the years as well....

and cmon- I deserve SOME credit for predicting the return of LBJ, the Cavs acquiring Love, and resigning Kyrie when many people thought THAT Was insane- and that not only was LeBron leaving- but idiots like DJ saying Kyrie was leaving as soon as he possibly could.

But I did say at that point I thought hte Cavs could be a historically good team and have a shot at 70 wins - albeit this being--- hmm im trying to think...i want to say maybe that summer before LeBrons last season with the Heat. Like I said above- since then the EAst has improved- and Kyrie of course suffered the knee injury in the Finals which- it looks like- at least on November 5th- that I am going to lose my bet as its looking doubtful hes back in November.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Here is a quote you might be able to learn from TheKlaw

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt

crack a book or an article OR EVEN the message boards and formulate an actual credible idea with some backup before you just go running your mouth.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I've read things that Wiggy wrote that I perceived as crazy, but he never ( that I saw) predicted the Cavs to beat the Bulls record.

I doubt any team ever breaks it, because we are now in the era of resting players and not putting much importance into the end of the season once your seed is pretty much established.

hows your son doing by the way?

the other day in class we had the best guest speaker I thought I have seen at law school. Guy was too cool....he got a case in front of the Supreme Court at the age of 33. He had opened his own practice after working at Jones Day ( a huge international law firm that is actually HQ'd in Cleveland- which is kinda crazy) for a little while.

The Long Shot

that was the cover article- he got cert granted by the SC to hear the case- even though the chances of being granted cert- especially in a non published case is like ZERO...and he was a sole practitioner and his only employee was his mom who was his paralegal and he ran his business out of his apartment on West 9th street.

He was interrupted by Chief Justice Roberts after his first sentence in the oral arguments- and ended up winning the case for the lady he was representing 9-0...she was in jail because her husband was abusive and she stabbed in- and while in jail she was sexually assaulted multiple times and treated very poorly by the prison guards...she won on district level- but was overturned at the 6th circuit on government immunity--

its just a crazy story and really cool....i bet your son would appreciate it.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

hows your son doing by the way?

the other day in class we had the best guest speaker I thought I have seen at law school. Guy was too cool....he got a case in front of the Supreme Court at the age of 33. He had opened his own practice after working at Jones Day ( a huge international law firm that is actually HQ'd in Cleveland- which is kinda crazy) for a little while.

The Long Shot

that was the cover article- he got cert granted by the SC to hear the case- even though the chances of being granted cert- especially in a non published case is like ZERO...and he was a sole practitioner and his only employee was his mom who was his paralegal and he ran his business out of his apartment on West 9th street.

He was interrupted by Chief Justice Roberts after his first sentence in the oral arguments- and ended up winning the case for the lady he was representing 9-0...she was in jail because her husband was abusive and she stabbed in- and while in jail she was sexually assaulted multiple times and treated very poorly by the prison guards...she won on district level- but was overturned at the 6th circuit on government immunity--

its just a crazy story and really cool....i bet your son would appreciate it.

Thanks for asking.
He's doing great, was doing above average, but hated law school.
After discussion we agreed with him it was far more important to be happy with your end profession then worry about wasting a few years to go back to school
So, he's back in under grad with a goal of entering the medical/ pharmacy profession.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Thanks for asking.
He's doing great, was doing above average, but hated law school.
After discussion we agreed with him it was far more important to be happy with your end profession then worry about wasting a few years to go back to school
So, he's back in under grad with a goal of entering the medical/ pharmacy profession.

Thats cool.

Sometimes it sounds like a better idea than it is- and sometimes you have to "do it" to a certain extent before you find out if you really like it.

I have to say- I think everyone has doubts at some point- I know I have- especially because early on you just get shit on. 1st year of law school is brutal- and then if you are lucky enough to get a good clerkship- all you are doing is a TON of legal research who just GRINDS on you after a while. You dont do the fun things like depositions and arguments and that kinda stuff that breaks up the monotony of the days, weeks, months for a long time.

And i understand the time commitment- 3 years is certainly a long time to- in a way- put your life on hold. However for the most part I really loved a lot my classes and that pursuit of knowledge. I loved Constitutional Law, Corporations, Pretrial Practice ..even Civ Pro.... but it can be an absolute freaking GRIND after a while and if you go through with it, and incur the debt and everything and come out the other side and not want to do it- you have really really backed yourself into a corner.

 

[ManuForever]

I haven o clue who this Klaw guy is- and i sign on and hes talking about me and stuff he claims i said years ago and i dont even know him!

I say nothing to him- i sign on and see posts like 291

"Who's the dumbass that said that? Let me guess...Wiggy."

I dont know this guy, go out of MY WAY to stay away from his idiocy- and i sign on and see him insulting me for absolutely no apparent reason.


"Alright fine. It's just Wiggy that's a dumb prick." "Cavs fans on this board...delusional, bandwagon, stupid as fuck...I'd name more but I don't have the time."
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AGain- I SAY NOTHING TO THE GUY- and he just insults me when I was debating with TurnuptheHeat about the Thompson contract....of course it gets heated between me and turnuptheheat- but were ACTUALLY having a basketball conversation--- this worthless piece of shit out of no where gets personal with insults while saying absolutely NOTHING about basketball.

Get a fucking life man. I get in heated discussions ALL The time on this thing with many people- but i have to say- besides DJ- you are the one who just brings NOTHING to the table except trying to piggyback off of other peoples posts and throwing out personal insults. THATS why I was wondering what "shithole" you are from. lol.

I find it funny that you act like you're some celebrity on here and just because I'm new that I'm not allowed to say anything to you. You're not special. Seriously. I would love to have a basketball conversation with you but unfortunately there's nothing I agree with you on. I just hate how you talk like you're so sure the Cavs are gonna do this and that and it's fact just cause you said so. I'm far from a worthless piece of shit, by the way. Should I have insulted you so much? No. And I apologize for that. Honestly. I just can't stand cocky, arrogant fans. They piss me off more than anything.

Here is a quote you might be able to learn from TheKlaw

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt

crack a book or an article OR EVEN the message boards and formulate an actual credible idea with some backup before you just go running your mouth.

Again, I might not have been here very long but I read your posts any I can formulate an opinion of my own off it. I just cannot take you seriously 99% of the time.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Also, this.

Yeah, I don't think he realizes that statement was resurrected here because there are not a lot of folkse here from that site.

During one of his manic moments when the possibility that James might return became more fact than fiction, he was on an All time high and said the Cave won 60 with Bron and a bunch of guys from the YMCA.

So, Bron, Kyrie, Tristan and the #1 pick could be the All time best.

In his defense, Cabs fans took

if DJ "mentioned" it I would not have seen it- I blocked him long ago since he brings zero to the table and he has the credibility of scumbag politician and the intelligence of a telemarketer (maybe because thats what he does). If you need someone to sell some Sham-Wow's hes your guy.

Yeah, that's why you didn't see it.

I only saw it because I was tagged in the post.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

and its just beyond perplexing to me that this Klaw guy is trying to tell me what I SAID years ago- based on what DJ says. GEEZUS.

you can disagree with me all you want on here- and MANY MANY DO- some justifiably, some less so- but say what you will- I back up what I say with my own posts, stats, credible articles etc. whatever.

find it

doesnt exist. Its unbelievable how people can tell me WHAT I SAID- and tell me I am wrong- when they have nothing to back themselves up ON A SITE THAT ARCHIVES ANYTHING.

Remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?

I figure ALL YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE THE LEAP...me? FUCK NO- I like ACTUAL EVIDENCE

I honestly don't remember precisely what you said because the joke took on a life of it's own.

Yes, Cavs fans took an ungodly amount of shit when Lebron left and even more when you guys dreamed that he would come back.

I was one of the main culprits to lmfao.

So, yeah.....I understood when you started to gloat because so many of us put the boots to your ass daily.

But, you absolutely did say that we could be looking at the best Team in History.

Maybe you were caught up in the moment. I honestly can't say for a fact that you said " They would break the Bulls record".

But, I know it was brought up by DJ, MMA and a few others and you didn't back away from your standpoint.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I've read things that Wiggy wrote that I perceived as crazy, but he never ( that I saw) predicted the Cavs to beat the Bulls record.

I doubt any team ever breaks it, because we are now in the era of resting players and not putting much importance into the end of the season once your seed is pretty much established.

This is all residual bullshit from another site that happened Lebron's last Season in Miami.


Waaaaaaaaay before any of us got here.

I'm thinking....2 years ago...maybe more.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

This is all residual bullshit from another site that happened Lebron's last Season in Miami.


Waaaaaaaaay before any of us got here.

I'm thinking....2 years ago...maybe more.

Oh.
And I didn't say it didn't or couldn't have happened.
I just said that I never saw it.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I honestly don't remember precisely what you said because the joke took on a life of it's own.

Yes, Cavs fans took an ungodly amount of shit when Lebron left and even more when you guys dreamed that he would come back.

I was one of the main culprits to lmfao.

So, yeah.....I understood when you started to gloat because so many of us put the boots to your ass daily.

But, you absolutely did say that we could be looking at the best Team in History.

Maybe you were caught up in the moment. I honestly can't say for a fact that you said " They would break the Bulls record".

But, I know it was brought up by DJ, MMA and a few others and you didn't back away from your standpoint.

I mean- think of that at the time.

You gotta give me some credit for calling LBJ coming back, and the Love trade - maybe not so much Kyrie resigning because anyone that pays attention to the league knew that was coming- although I suppose the argument of taking 3 instead of 5 years perhaps had some backup to it.

And like you said- at that point the East was really not that good- the Pacers were the only challenger to the Heat and its not like the Pacers were great. Love was absolutely tearing it up in Minnesota- so much so that in their annual rankings ESPN had him as high as #8 in the entire league at one point. Kyrie was taking off.

Turnupheat brings up a very solid and credible point about teams just lacking the motivation, incentives, and health concerns to win 70 games in todays NBA. However- when I look at the Cavs Kyrie and Love are still without a doubt motivated- and I think LeBron still wants to do some special things- and the Cavs do have a ton of depth. In August I predicted 68 wins. I gotta revise that due to Kyrie being out longer than I personally thought he would be, along with some of the other injury stuff.

I just saw how damn good Kyrie/LEBron/Love where last year when they had some time to play together and were all on the court together- they were like 33-3 or something their last 36 games they played together- and that included going 14-1 against the West for a streak (And come to think of it that loss was to Houston, on the road, in OT and Kyrie did not play and Beverely skull fucked Delly).

 

[WiggyRuss]

Oh.
And I didn't say it didn't or couldn't have happened.
I just said that I never saw it.

I said they could approach 70 and maybe challenge it- but i would never say- and never did say "the Cavs will beat hte Bulls record and win 73" That simply never happened. To win 73 you need a historically great team AND a historically lucky season...shit to win 70 you need BOTH of those- and you cant predict great luck.

I saw LeBron win 66 games with the 2nd best player on the team being Mo Williams. And seriously that year they were 39-2 at home- and lost the season finale where EVERYONE sat- I was pretty pissed they didnt try and match the Celtics all time best home record in NBA history.

Anyway- the other best players and top scorers on that 66 win Cavs team- Mo Williams of course was #2 with 18 points a game. Zyrdunas was 3rd with about 13 points a game -- Delonte West with 12 and Andy Varejhao with about 9....Cavs had a few shooters too...(Wally Szerbiack, Boobie Gibson)....

but if that freaking team could win 66 games- I think this iteration of the Cavs can approach, and with a LOT of luck, could possibly hit 70..... all though, with Gordons post somewhere- I think on this thread - the EAst has really improved this year.

 

[Black Adam]

and its just beyond perplexing to me that this Klaw guy is trying to tell me what I SAID years ago- based on what DJ says. GEEZUS.

you can disagree with me all you want on here- and MANY MANY DO- some justifiably, some less so- but say what you will- I back up what I say with my own posts, stats, credible articles etc. whatever.

find it

doesnt exist. Its unbelievable how people can tell me WHAT I SAID- and tell me I am wrong- when they have nothing to back themselves up ON A SITE THAT ARCHIVES ANYTHING.

Remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?

I figure ALL YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE THE LEAP...me? FUCK NO- I like ACTUAL EVIDENCE

why when I can simply wait for everyone who saw you post it simply say the same as I am...?

everyone knows you ran your mouth on it. lol quit trying to play things off when you're wrong...

 

[WiggyRuss]

why when I can simply wait for everyone who saw you post it simply say the same as I am...?

everyone knows you ran your mouth on it. lol quit trying to play things off when you're wrong...

"only the penitent man shall pass. The penitent man kneels before God". lol.....ok Indiana? You hate snakes and nazis too dont you?


No ticket.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I mean- think of that at the time.

You gotta give me some credit for calling LBJ coming back, and the Love trade - maybe not so much Kyrie resigning because anyone that pays attention to the league knew that was coming- although I suppose the argument of taking 3 instead of 5 years perhaps had some backup to it.

And like you said- at that point the East was really not that good- the Pacers were the only challenger to the Heat and its not like the Pacers were great. Love was absolutely tearing it up in Minnesota- so much so that in their annual rankings ESPN had him as high as #8 in the entire league at one point. Kyrie was taking off.

Turnupheat brings up a very solid and credible point about teams just lacking the motivation, incentives, and health concerns to win 70 games in todays NBA. However- when I look at the Cavs Kyrie and Love are still without a doubt motivated- and I think LeBron still wants to do some special things- and the Cavs do have a ton of depth. In August I predicted 68 wins. I gotta revise that due to Kyrie being out longer than I personally thought he would be, along with some of the other injury stuff.

I just saw how damn good Kyrie/LEBron/Love where last year when they had some time to play together and were all on the court together- they were like 33-3 or something their last 36 games they played together- and that included going 14-1 against the West for a streak (And come to think of it that loss was to Houston, on the road, in OT and Kyrie did not play and Beverely skull fucked Delly).

Dude, I totally understand.

You should be excited about the Cavs present.

Health is likely the only thing that would prevent you from reaching the ECF and beyond.

I have suffered so long that it's hard to think positively or have any faith in the Clippers.

They fucking let me down every single time.

But, I keep trying to tell myself that the ecstasy will be worth the all the agony if they ever get their shit together and win a damn championship.

Stay optimistic...you have a very good reason to.

I'll just keep my fridge stocked with Ben and Jerry's, Reese's peanut butter cups and order a bunch of King Taco burritos to drown out my pain when we collapse in the 2nd round as usual.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Dude, I totally understand.

You should be excited about the Cavs present.

Health is likely the only thing that would prevent you from reaching the ECF and beyond.

I have suffered so long that it's hard to think positively or have any faith in the Clippers.

They fucking let me down every single time.

But, I keep trying to tell myself that the ecstasy will be worth the all the agony if they ever get their shit together and win a damn championship.

Stay optimistic...you have a very good reason to.

I'll just keep my fridge stocked with Ben and Jerry's, Reese's peanut butter cups and order a bunch of King Taco burritos to drown out my pain when we collapse in the 2nd round as usual.

Clips are a really good team though.

I mean- they have the hardest things to get- the stars. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin can ABSOLUTELY be the #1 and #2 guys (whatever the order who cares) on a Championship caliber team. Jordan is definitely a guy capable of being the #3 guy on a championship team. Adding Josh Smith, Stephenson and Pierce should give you some solid options off the bench.

Its a really good team- the West is just loaded. You REALLY gotta earn it to get to the Finals in the West. Its tough.

You have CP and Blake together for another couple years at least though. You have a few more chances. Dirk took along time to win his title- but he just got that one- but it was AWESOME because he did it on his terms in Dallas. I think CP and Blake have the potential to do that for the Clips someday.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Oh.
And I didn't say it didn't or couldn't have happened.
I just said that I never saw it.

Yeah, I hear you.

Whatever was actually said didn't take place here and since the other place go boom, it's his word against DJ'S.

I like Russ.

When he's not boasting or trolling he actually knows his shit.

But, these things will continue to happen when you constantly trash other fanbases.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Clips are a really good team though.

I mean- they have the hardest things to get- the stars. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin can ABSOLUTELY be the #1 and #2 guys (whatever the order who cares) on a Championship caliber team. Jordan is definitely a guy capable of being the #3 guy on a championship team. Adding Josh Smith, Stephenson and Pierce should give you some solid options off the bench.

Its a really good team- the West is just loaded. You REALLY gotta earn it to get to the Finals in the West. Its tough.

You have CP and Blake together for another couple years at least though. You have a few more chances. Dirk took along time to win his title- but he just got that one- but it was AWESOME because he did it on his terms in Dallas. I think CP and Blake have the potential to do that for the Clips someday.

Man, we need another shooter in the worst way.

Crawford is so tricking streaky. He could go for 30 one night and then go 3 for 16 for the next 8 games.

Redick is the only guy capable of stretching the floor.

As long as the Spurs exist and Curry's ankles hold up, its gone fishing for the Clips in round 2.

With that being said, I love me some Blake.

He just keeps getting better.

 

[WiggyRuss]

adding Pierce. Stephenson and Smith obviously comes with some risk as all 3 of those guys are not exactly church mice. They can bring a swagger and some confidence that I think the Clips needed....like I cant beleive they blew that against Houston last year- that just didnt make sense to me as I thought the Clips were the better team and win that series a majority of the time.