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He has a lot more hurries than one. And his job isn't to get sacks. I'm done arguing about it. I wasn't put on this Earth to explain the DT position every week.

but I would really like you to explain it to me, so I can learn. just cuz I'm old doesn't mean I don't want to learn. I would do it for you if I had the knowledge.

some people honestly want to learn
 

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but I would really like you to explain it to me, so I can learn. just cuz I'm old doesn't mean I don't want to learn. I would do it for you if I had the knowledge.

some people honestly want to learn

I'm already teaching you about avatar bets. One class at a time.
 

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It's hard to bang my head against a wall and do anything else simultaneously.

I'm not buying that excuse. not from what I've been told. you're the go to guy around here.
 

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Lions dead last in the NFL in giving up rush TDs. Miami is tied for 3rd best.

Only on the Lions message board does that somehow make the Lions better. :L

The flaw in your logic has been explained ad-nauseum. Just like you dont want to spend every week spinning it, I dont want to spend every week unspinning it.
 

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The flaw in your logic has been explained ad-nauseum. Just like you dont want to spend every week spinning it, I dont want to spend every week unspinning it.

Like I said, only on the Lions board do you find this kind of shit where surrendering 10 rush TDs is somehow better than surrendering 3 LOL. You're already eating crow anyways, declaring any DT can be plugged into Austin's D and we won't miss a beat. Own it, bro.
 

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You can keep being stubborn and wrong if you want. You're already eating crow anyways, declaring any DT can be plugged into Austin's D and we won't miss a beat. Own it, bro.

I can own that they need a decent DT, but not a superstar nor the need to waste 20 mil a year on a player to occupy 2 lineman and do nothing else.

Lions have much bigger problems on defense besides DT. LBs are weak. 1 CB who regressed and just joined AARP. Various injuries. Lions managed to escape last year with just 1 injury at MLB which was not a huge deal because his backup is actually better than him. The slot CB injuries didnt matter because they all were at the same level as Carey who filled in. Injuries this year to both DEs, Both DTs, No 1 LB, and a Safety. Cant overcome that and cant say that losing Suh is the reason because it is not even close to an accurate comparison. So in your own words, you can continue to be wrong if you want.
 

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I can own that they need a decent DT, but not a superstar nor the need to waste 20 mil a year on a player to occupy 2 lineman and do nothing else.

Lions have much bigger problems on defense besides DT. LBs are weak. 1 CB who regressed and just joined AARP. Various injuries. Lions managed to escape last year with just 1 injury at MLB which was not a huge deal because his backup is actually better than him. The slot CB injuries didnt matter because they all were at the same level as Carey who filled in. Injuries this year to both DEs, Both DTs, No 1 LB, and a Safety. Cant overcome that and cant say that losing Suh is the reason because it is not even close to an accurate comparison. So in your own words, you can continue to be wrong if you want.

Yep. Suh masked a lot of shitty players weaknesses on this team. That's the difference between 11-5 and 1-5.
 

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Yep. Suh masked a lot of shitty players weaknesses on this team. That's the difference between 11-5 and 1-5.

I dont hate Suh. You know that because I was the only one defending his stomp of Rodgers on the main board last year when every Lions fan on this site put their tails between their legs and ran. Some even chastized him.
 

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I dont hate Suh. You know that because I was the only one defending his stomp of Rodgers on the main board last year when every Lions fan on this site put their tails between their legs and ran. Some even chastized him.

Until Mayhew is gone, I'll talk about Suh, because Suh is the guy that history will judge Mayhew by. Didn't win until he got him, full swing decline once he lost him.

Lions rush D surrendered 8 TDs all year last year

Lions rush D has surrendered 10 (worst in the NFL) over 6 games so far this season.

You think I'm happy about this?
 

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Until Mayhew is gone, I'll talk about Suh, because Suh is the guy that history will judge Mayhew by. Didn't win until he got him, full swing decline once he lost him.

Lions D surrendered 8 TDs all year last year

Lions D has surrendered 10 (worst in the NFL) over 6 games so far this season.

You think I'm happy about this?

Noone is. You have to understand the offense has turned the ball over in our own territory more in 6 games then in the last 2 seasons combined. Last years defense did not have to deal with type of shit storm.

The defense needs upgrading in the front 7 plus 1 CB. I actually like what Walker did inside. Not thrilled with NGata or the rookies so far.

Still if you want to be unhappy, the offense lost noone but Sims and Raiola and flat out blows.
 

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Didn't win until he got him, full swing decline once he lost him.
Detroit didn't win until they got someone that could consistently get the ball to Calvin. Detroit won, despite the poor play of the defense, until 2014, where the defense carried the offense.
 

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Lions rush D surrendered 8 TDs all year last year

Lions rush D has surrendered 10 (worst in the NFL) over 6 games so far this season.

You think I'm happy about this?

So is Miami's run defense better than Atlanta right now? Atlanta has given up 10 rushing TD's, yet they are the #1 rush defense in the NFL and the only team giving up less than 80 yards a game.
 

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So is Miami's run defense better than Atlanta right now? Atlanta has given up 10 rushing TD's, yet they are the #1 rush defense in the NFL and the only team giving up less than 80 yards a game.

Dan Quinn would kill to have Miami's run defenders. ATL is tied with the Lions for dead last giving up rush 10 TDs already this year. He's not used to that coming from Seattle.
 

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Noone is. You have to understand the offense has turned the ball over in our own territory more in 6 games then in the last 2 seasons combined. Last years defense did not have to deal with type of shit storm.

The defense needs upgrading in the front 7 plus 1 CB. I actually like what Walker did inside. Not thrilled with NGata or the rookies so far.

Still if you want to be unhappy, the offense lost noone but Sims and Raiola and flat out blows.

Lions were winning the turnover battle until the AZ game. In fact, they won it in games 1 and 2, still lost.
 

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So is Miami's run defense better than Atlanta right now? Atlanta has given up 10 rushing TD's, yet they are the #1 rush defense in the NFL and the only team giving up less than 80 yards a game.

You were just telling me how the Falcons D was no good a couple weeks ago. :pound:
 

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Points given up by defense

Miami 111 > Atlanta 142 > Lions 172

Until NFL games are decided by anything but points, nothing else matters.
 
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