tOfficial 2015 NBA Draft/Free Agency Thread

[WiggyRuss]

I hope to see him one day argue a case on court TV..

thats what you call impeaching the witness. LOL

Ohhhhh the silence is positively deafening. hahaha

here is my post from July 2nd you lying sack of shit (Turnup): BARGAIN RIGHT?!

Thompson is not worth 16 million dollars- the circumstances obviously drove that up- that and the rising cap. I mean- what after that playoff performance and everything annd the fact that he is 24 years old and improving, and that he never gets hurt, and that he shares agents with LeBron, and the fact that its not like the Cavs would be able to use the cap room it would save on him for someone else since they are already over thecap---- I mean- with where the Cap is going you could justify 12...the fact he knew they could replace him and how he kicked ass at theright time really worked out for him and it sounds like he is going to get 16 a season.....all though apparently its not finished yet.


ahhhhh....its so vindicating finding posts that directly contradict and make Turnup look like the bitter whining fool that he is.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

thats what you call impeaching the witness. LOL

Ohhhhh the silence is positively deafening. hahaha

Or it's called work?
Sorry.
Not play time for me quite yet, but without looking (which I will later if needed), I can tell you that all you did is prove that you are all over the place, which ever way the wind blows, whatever sounds best to you at the time.

I specifically remember you telling us (many times) that it was fine for Gilbert to overpay Tristan now because he'll be a bargain once the cap escalates..as well as all the other stuff I posted about you saying the team was fine long term..as is...because of the youth and long terms of contracts already signed.

Each and every post you made on those subjects included you thinking that Tristan would be on the roster for whatever ESPN reported they had agreed to.

You didn't impeach anyone, its more like you perjured yourself.

 

[WiggyRuss]

So again...back to it.....So any moniker suggestion? Showtime is of course a GREAT one....7 Seconds or Less---- some modern ones like Splash Bro's or Lob City.

Any ideas? cmon guys...what something that will encapsulate the absolute transcendent offense that the Cavs will be running out there? LeBomb's Away? Blatt's 3Ball Barrage? lol....cmon

 

[WiggyRuss]

Or it's called work?
Sorry.
Not play time for me quite yet, but without looking (which I will later if needed), I can tell you that all you did is prove that you are all over the place, which ever way the wind blows, whatever sounds best to you at the time.

I specifically remember you telling us (many times) that it was fine for Gilbert to overpay Tristan now because he'll be a bargain once the cap escalates..as well as all the other stuff I posted about you saying the team was fine long term..as is...because of the youth and long terms of contracts already signed.

Each and every post you made on those subjects included you thinking that Tristan would be on the roster for whatever ESPN reported they had agreed to.

You didn't impeach anyone, its more like you perjured yourself.

again...gotta put the bottle down. Never EVER EVER would I characterize Tristan a bargain for what he makes.

What I have said- multiple times- is that when you have Robin Lopez making 13.5 a year, and Kanter making 17.5 and guys like Paul Milsap making 20 a year- that something in the 16M a year range is probably about what you will have to pay TT- ESPECIALLY with the circumstances surrounding the negotiations.

I dunno about you -but it seems logical to me that TT would fall somewhere in between Kanter and Lopez- and there are certainly arguments to be made that TT is a better overall player than Kanter. Its just what todays NBA market place looks like. Simple as that.

Its the same with anyone who is going to be a free agent next summer. Everyone is "overpaid". Its why Whiteside- even if he is as good as I think he is (and not as good as you think he is)- will get between 16 and 20 million. Shiiiiiiit- if he is as good as YOU think he is the guy will be getting a "max". - HELL! if he is as good as I THINK he is- he could get a max with all the teams having cap space.

Again- this is not rocket science. Its simple math and obervation and reading. LOL.

IMPEACHED man. I just contradicted you completely. You know that and I know that and now your doing your typical weaseling away. Not unexpected at this point. LOL--- I mean....unless somehow in your head you have equated "bargain" with the words "not worth". It was as easy as a 30 second search to make you out for the lying fool you are.

Its just so great finding posts that show you for the bitter bitter lying whiner that you are

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

again...gotta put the bottle down. Never EVER EVER would I characterize Tristan a bargain for what he makes.

What I have said- multiple times- is that when you have Robin Lopez making 13.5 a year, and Kanter making 17.5 and guys like Paul Milsap making 20 a year- that something in the 16M a year range is probably about what you will have to pay TT- ESPECIALLY with the circumstances surrounding the negotiations.

Its just so great finding posts that show you for the bitter bitter lying whiner that you are

Maybe you didn't say "bargain", but you said many times that he was worth what was reported.
THAT was my point.

He is either worth it, or he isn't. Other players on other teams are based on totally different circumstances.

But, if we are using those circumstances PLUS considering the his circumstances then WHAT is the holdup?

Next are you are going to tell us that you haven't said 1000000x that Gilbert doesn't care what his tax penalty is?

 

[WiggyRuss]

I mean- honestly think of that.

Just take a step back man and realize how delusional you are.

In one post you say how I have been saying over and over again how Thompson is a "bargain"- within a minute I find a post that totally 100% refutes what you said- AND I'M the one thats wrong? LOL

sometimes you just gotta chalk it up man. As the saying goes- Denial is just not a river in Egypt.

 

[Heatles84]

So again...back to it.....So any moniker suggestion? Showtime is of course a GREAT one....7 Seconds or Less---- some modern ones like Splash Bro's or Lob City.

Any ideas? cmon guys...what something that will encapsulate the absolute transcendent offense that the Cavs will be running out there? LeBomb's Away? Blatt's 3Ball Barrage? lol....cmon

How about "Ringless"? It seems to be fitting

 

[WiggyRuss]

seriously- when every single team in the league has cap room next summer and are fighting over a handful of guys the Cavs will have their team.

There are always ways of making things work too- like the Haywood contract this summer to add a piece- Varejao has the exact same provision his 3rd year being completely unguaranteed so that offseason they have set themselves up to have a way to make a move. Especiallysince the only one o f these contracts that would seem not to have value going forward is Thompsons- they can make switches if they need to--- but really- I think this is freaking perfect....San Antoinio had 3 guys grow together for years and never signed a major free agent- they just added pieces around---- the Cavs already have 2 of those pieces in shumpert andthompson.....

I mean, shit- Griffin has just laid the ground work for continuity and a ton of talent to be here and grow toeghet. Its the IDEAL situation.


Here is another one from July 3rd. Turnup...time for you to eat your pile of crow on this one bro. Let it go. You gotta let go of the hate man. Its obviously polluting your mind and causing delusions. LOL....

 

[WiggyRuss]

How about "Ringless"? It seems to be fitting

PI!!! PI!!!!

Got a ring that day not basketball though obviously.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I mean- honestly think of that.

Just take a step back man and realize how delusional you are.

In one post you say how I have been saying over and over again how Thompson is a "bargain"- within a minute I find a post that totally 100% refutes what you said- AND I'M the one thats wrong? LOL

sometimes you just gotta chalk it up man. As the saying goes- Denial is just not a river in Egypt.

Last time you were so sure of yourself was when you were 1000% wrong about me saying that Windy said the Cavs could have had Joe Johnson, ..correct?

Then, once everyone and their mother showed you podcasts, you never had another word to say on the matter.

FACT is, you have said MAY TIMES that the Cavs were totally fine paying Tristan a max or near max and that adding FA the next couple of years meant nothing because of the age and contracts currently on the roster.
You said money meant nothing and that Gilbert wouldn't consider it a factor when making decisions.


Now today, your story changes, because of the reported turmoil...and you feel Gilbert is doing the prudent thing?

You really cease to amaze me.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Last time you were so sure of yourself was when you were 1000% wrong about me saying that Windy said the Cavs could have had Joe Johnson, ..correct?

Then, once everyone and their mother showed you podcasts, you never had another word to say on the matter.

FACT is, you have said MAY TIMES that the Cavs were totally fine paying Tristan a max or near max and that adding FA the next couple of years meant nothing because of the age and contracts currently on the roster.
You said money meant nothing and that Gilbert wouldn't consider it a factor when making decisions.


Now today, your story changes, because of the reported turmoil...and you feel Gilbert is doing the prudent thing?

You really cease to amaze me.

uhhh..ive now quoted multiple posts making you look foolish. You gotta let this one go man. You mispoke. no big deal...your just making yourself look worse at this point.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

seriously- when every single team in the league has cap room next summer and are fighting over a handful of guys the Cavs will have their team.

There are always ways of making things work too- like the Haywood contract this summer to add a piece- Varejao has the exact same provision his 3rd year being completely unguaranteed so that offseason they have set themselves up to have a way to make a move. Especiallysince the only one o f these contracts that would seem not to have value going forward is Thompsons- they can make switches if they need to--- but really- I think this is freaking perfect....San Antoinio had 3 guys grow together for years and never signed a major free agent- they just added pieces around---- the Cavs already have 2 of those pieces in shumpert andthompson.....

I mean, shit- Griffin has just laid the ground work for continuity and a ton of talent to be here and grow toeghet. Its the IDEAL situation.


Here is another one from July 3rd. Turnup...time for you to eat your pile of crow on this one bro. Let it go. You gotta let go of the hate man. Its obviously polluting your mind and causing delusions. LOL....

It's just another post of you saying the Cavs were FINE paying him the cash, and not needing to add in the near future.

How about this, try showing me once where you said he wasn't worth it and they should let him walk....

I'll be waiting...

 

[Shanemansj13]

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PI!!! PI!!!!

Got a ring that day not basketball though obviously.

Look at the defender bearhugging him. Damn complainers LOL

 

[WiggyRuss]

Look at the defender bearhugging him. Damn complainers LOL

ya know Shane....cheaters never prosper. Justice was done that day my good friend.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

uhhh..ive now quoted multiple posts making you look foolish. You gotta let this one go man. You mispoke. no big deal...your just making yourself look worse at this point.

Only thing I was wrong about was using thew word "bargain", if you didn't use it.
You've stated MANY times that the Cavs were more then fine paying him a max or near max contract.

Foolish is changing your position based on the daily news.

 

[WiggyRuss]

It's just another post of you saying the Cavs were FINE paying him the cash, and not needing to add in the near future.

How about this, try showing me once where you said he wasn't worth it and they should let him walk....

I'll be waiting...

so because you were wrong Ihave to show you where I said they should let him walk? That does not even make sense. Again- this is just you doing your typical Weasel routine. Of course I dont think they should let Thompson walk as there is no way they can replace him. WTF does that have to do with me saying he is a "bargain"? LOL.....your gonna have to do a little better WEASELING.

I have never changed my position on Thompson even once. I always though the Cavs should bring him back- but I have not- and no one that I have ever seen has said Thompson is a "Bargain" at 16M dollars a year. Again- to repeat myself for the upteenth time- Thompson will likely get that money because of the myriad of circumstances surrounding the negotiation. The same thing I have been saying since day 1.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

ya know Shane....cheaters never prosper. Justice was done that day my good friend.

It was a HORRIBLE call, but has never been an excuse to me as to why the Canes lost.
They had numerous other chances to end it and didn't.
You know what they say about letting an inferior team hang around..

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

so because you were wrong Ihave to show you where I said they should let him walk? That does not even make sense. Again- this is just you doing your typical Weasel routine. Of course I dont think they should let Thompson walk as there is no way they can replace him. WTF does that have to do with me saying he is a "bargain"? LOL.....your gonna have to do a little better WEASELING.

So, they can't replace him for what was reported being offered, but he's not a bargain??

Then what is he?

You are really all over the road.

 

[WiggyRuss]

So, they can't replace him for what was reported being offered, but he's not a bargain??

Then what is he?

You are really all over the road.

lol....again...this weaseling is hilarious. WTF does that post even mean?

if what you are trying to say is ...actually...I have no clue what the hell you are trying to say with that post....other than grasping at the thinnest of straws while sinking farther and farther into denial.

 

[WiggyRuss]

It was a HORRIBLE call, but has never been an excuse to me as to why the Canes lost.
They had numerous other chances to end it and didn't.
You know what they say about letting an inferior team hang around..

uhhh the Buckeyes were obviously the superior team....as they have the Rings.......a TEAM is more than a collection of individuals-

A lesson you learned that night.

Dorsey bro? lol.