tOfficial 2015 NBA Draft/Free Agency Thread

[bksballer89]

From what I understand, HE reached out to Riley, not the other way around.

Why's he calling Riley if he's not interested in playing here?

Yeah I read the same thing.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

tobe honest I think Aldridge sounds like he wants to be talked into going to the Lakers- but the first meeting really freaked him out....why else schedule and attend a 2nd meeting? that seems really strange- unless the Lakers are just acting out of desperation.

Did they have a second meeting?
On the radio here, they said he cancelled it once Riley agreed to meet with him.

Again, I'm just writing what I've heard/read here the last several hours.
I'm not presenting it as fact.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

Not if they win championships, it could change their image. If Kyrie stays he will be there for another 10 years. Not comparing anyone to MJ, but players and championships change franchises. Not saying it is going to happen, but it is something positive.

Really?!?

The Bulls had never won one until they won 6 in 8 years. How many have they won since?
The Mavs had never won one until they beat Miami in Lebron's first season. How many have they won since?
The Rockets never won one until they went back to back when MJ retired the first time. How many have they won since?
The Warriors are in what most would consider a great place to live. They won in 1975 and it took them 40 years to get their 2nd one.

Should I go on?

Doesn't seem like winning championships changes images all that much.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Trick question.
Obvious answer is no, because it increases your chances of winning now.
Fans don't care about luxury tax. They just want to win.


However, if you don't, you're in trouble moving forward because even when the cap goes up, you'll have no available space to add anything.

at the VERY VERY VERY LEAST - Thompson would have gotten 12 if El Aminu and Amir Johnson are getting 12M a year and Robin Lopez might get freaking 15.

combine that with the fact that the Cavs cant replace him, and it makes LeBron happy with the agent connection- i mean isnt that a no brainer? of course him pay him? Am i missing something? Do I think in a vacuum Tristan Thompson is a 16 million dollar player? Hell no---does the contract he got absolutely make 100% sense for the Cavs? OF COURSE IT DOES.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Really?!?

The Bulls had never won one until they won 6 in 8 years. How many have they won since?
The Mavs had never won one until they beat Miami in Lebron's first season. How many have they won since?
The Rockets never won one until they went back to back when MJ retired the first time. How many have they won since?
The Warriors are in what most would consider a great place to live. They won in 1975 and it took them 40 years to get their 2nd one.

Should I go on?

Doesn't seem like winning championships changes images all that much.

the Celtics have the most storied history in the league and they are one of the very very very very worst at signing anyone in free agency. Tell me the last significant free agent left some where to go to Boston....never happens.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Absolutely is not happening.
Gilbert's an ass. The city is not a desirable place for NBA players to live.
James is the current attraction.

These guys love South Beach.
I truly think that's why Aldrige apparently wants to play here vs San Antonio.

Well Kyrie becomes an image he can be the same way

 

[WiggyRuss]

after work i went to my parents and helped my dad put in a brickpatio and my fucking arms are dead....icanbrealy left them to the fucking keyboard...

 

[trojanfan12]

you really think the Cavs should have let go of Love or Thompson?

Yes. Not because they can't play, but because that's just too much money to tie up in 1 position. You're either going to have a guy coming off your bench that is making $16 million or one coming off your bench that's making $20 million. What Thompson brings can be easily replicated with 1 or 2 guys making less, imo.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I don't think Riley is that dumb. I like Aldridge but I'll never do that.

I think I agree.
Winslow seems like a long term no miss.
I just don't see Riley trading Bosh after everything that happened last year.

If neither is included, I have no clue what the pitch is, but as of now it's all gravy.
I'm satisfied with what they've done.

 

[Heatles84]

is it a fact that the Heat drafted 10th overall since they were an Eastern Conference playoff team? Or am I just whistling dixie out of my ass?

There's something coming out of your ass. Might be KY.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Really?!?

The Bulls had never won one until they won 6 in 8 years. How many have they won since?
The Mavs had never won one until they beat Miami in Lebron's first season. How many have they won since?
The Rockets never won one until they went back to back when MJ retired the first time. How many have they won since?
The Warriors are in what most would consider a great place to live. They won in 1975 and it took them 40 years to get their 2nd one.

Should I go on?

Doesn't seem like winning championships changes images all that much.

I mentioned MJ, he changed the franchise. Never said anything else, not the same example, just saying things change. What if Lebron becomes the owner. Do you not think players wont want to play under him? You're crazy.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yes. Not because they can't play, but because that's just too much money to tie up in 1 position. You're either going to have a guy coming off your bench that is making $16 million or one coming off your bench that's making $20 million. What Thompson brings can be easily replicated with 1 or 2 guys making less, imo.

thast the thing though-letting go of Thompson didnt give you 16 million to go looking around free agency- just LeBron/Love/Kyrie take you out of that.....It was either pay thompson or let him go for nothing.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Thompson was restricted.

Why overpay him at all.....if some other team was willing to throw insane cash at him, Cle can alway match.
There is a ceiling as well, so it was never going to be higher than that either.

The Cavs overpaid him grossly for no freaking sane reason whatsoever.
There was not a single team in the league dangling anywhere close to that money for him.
It was a beyond stupid contract. No amount of homerism can pretend otherwise.

Love was decent. Shumpert is somewhat okay...debatable...

But Thompson was a flat out dumb as rocks deal that is going to be regretted.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Yes. Not because they can't play, but because that's just too much money to tie up in 1 position. You're either going to have a guy coming off your bench that is making $16 million or one coming off your bench that's making $20 million. What Thompson brings can be easily replicated with 1 or 2 guys making less, imo.

Letting 1 go doesn't get you more players though cause they are over the cap.
I think trading one, like we discussed the other day for the 2 Ariza types was the move.

 

[trojanfan12]

tobe honest I think Aldridge sounds like he wants to be talked into going to the Lakers- but the first meeting really freaked him out....why else schedule and attend a 2nd meeting? that seems really strange- unless the Lakers are just acting out of desperation.

Yeah, I don't know what it means. I know the Lakers asked for the 2nd meeting, but he certainly didn't have to agree to it. Maybe when he crossed them off the list, he used a pencil?

Word is that he was actually very impressed with the off the court opportunities, but the Lakers didn't discuss enough basketball with him. Apparently, this meeting was with just Mitch and Byron. Who knows? Maybe they can tell him what he needs to hear?

 

[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

the Celtics have the most storied history in the league and they are one of the very very very very worst at signing anyone in free agency. Tell me the last significant free agent left some where to go to Boston....never happens.

And they've won exactly one title since the 80's. In fact, since Bird retired, they missed the playoffs more often than they made them.

 

[bksballer89]

BTW according to Ramona Shelburne the Lakers did meet with Aldridge earlier tonight

 

[trojanfan12]

I mentioned MJ, he changed the franchise. Never said anything else, not the same example, just saying things change. What if Lebron becomes the owner. Do you not think players wont want to play under him? You're crazy.

Why the hell would they want to play under him? They'd want to play WITH him. How much has MJ being an owner helped?