tOfficial 2015 NBA Draft/Free Agency Thread

[trojanfan12]

Please stop talking.
You've written novels about what great signings the Cavs made, which all included Tristan.

Then we expose your idiocy about Dragic, and all of the sudden Tristan isn't worth it?


This isn't MLB where any player can get paid any amount.
You can't look at like if James makes 20, Dragic can't be worth 18.
It doesn't work like that.

Riley wants to win now, and to win, you need an elite PG.
He got the one he wanted.
You have to pay him ( and he was nice enough to forego 20M, which is fact).

End of the day, a player is worth what the team he plays for is willing to pay and that's typically based on need. Players who many/most get max deals or paid more that their perceived value because they fill a need a team has. The bigger the need, the bigger the deal. The Heat needed a top tier point guard. They got one. I guarantee, if the Lakers hadn't drafted Russell, they'd have been trying to get in front of Dragic with a max deal.

Only place this seems to be different is Cleveland, where they think tying up $36 million in 1 position is a good idea.

 

[bksballer89]

The Cavs threw in the towel for 4 straight years after Lebron left.

What a sorry franchise. I'm just glad the Heat organization didn't go down that road as they continue to whatever they can to put a winning product on the court

 

[bksballer89]

Wiggy continues to argue with himself. The guy is really dumb.

Still waiting to see the post where any Heat fan said we had a good year last season

 

[Shanemansj13]

The Cavs threw in the towel for 4 straight years after Lebron left.

What a sorry franchise. I'm just glad the Heat organization didn't go down that road as they continue to whatever they can to put a winning product on the court

They didnt have any players and couldnt recruit. They arent located on a beach lol. Nice try

Doesnt matter, the present is here. Accept it

Didnt know winning doesnt make the playoffs lol

 

[bksballer89]

They didnt have any players and couldnt recruit. They arent located on a beach lol. Nice try

Doesnt matter, the present is here. Accept it

So in other words you realize when Lebron retires the Cavs will go back to being a shit franchise unable to ever recruit players to shitty Ohio?

BTW Milwaukee isn't located on a beach either and they do a solid job of getting players to play there. Same goes for Chicago

 

[Shanemansj13]

Looka like Lopez is going to the Knicks. They got a player!!!

 

[WiggyRuss]

Not one Heat fan is making lofty expectations, we're reserved, yet excited to see the direction our team is taking. We're not talking about years of dominance, potential dynasty, and close to 70-win seasons like you are. You're the one who's a typing contradiction, not us. We still have to fill out our roster, but at least the contracts the Heat got aren't crazy like paying Thompson $80 million. You can make fun of the Heat landing the number 10 pick in the draft. How many times were the Cavs in the lottery before Lebron came back to shit hole?

As for expectations- for the Heat...in the East...

1. Cavs
2. Bulls
3. Hawks
4. Wizards
5. Bucks
6. Heat
7. Raptors
8. Hornets

and with that matchup id think the Heat could beat the Hawks- who i said- i think are a regular season team....i think the Heat could possibly make the 2nd round depending on health and matchups if things broke the right way....I dont see them beating the Bulls or the Cavs so they wont get to the conference finals..

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

honestly- what a joke....Dragic is amazing, Whteside is amazing- Wade is the best he has been in years

AND THEY LOST GROUND TO THE CELTICS AND NETS.

Im sorry- it all begins and ends there. Until this team proves that it is more than just eastern lotto fodder after LeBron left thats sure what it appears like from the outside.

Actually, Wade was terrible down the stretch.
Where did I ever say he was good, let alone amazing?

And learn the game.
How much better will Whiteside be if he has Bosh spreading the court instead of Bird or UD?
Dragic said he never got in sync, with some players, at the time.

If you think what you saw last year is your reasoning and logic for discussing what we anticipate to see happen this season, then the discussion is pointless.

 

[trojanfan12]

really good teams get the 10th pick ALL the time. Just check your NBA history.

The Lakers have gotten the #1 pick twice with really good teams. The Spurs did it once. They were a really good team, Robinson got hurt and was out a year. That's how they got Duncan.

 

[Shanemansj13]

So in other words you realize when Lebron retires the Cavs will go back to being a shit franchise unable to ever recruit players to shitty Ohio?

BTW Milwaukee isn't located on a beach either and they do a solid job of getting players to play there. Same goes for Chicago

Not if they win championships, it could change their image. If Kyrie stays he will be there for another 10 years. Not comparing anyone to MJ, but players and championships change franchises. Not saying it is going to happen, but it is something positive.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I'm cool last year happened, it got us Winslow. I'm sure that kid will be alright.

I have a feeling his name is being tossed around in the Aldridge meeting.
Riley isn't a big fan of youth when his mindset is win now.

 

[bksballer89]

It is wayyy to early to even predict standings. The off season just started. Basically every team doesn't even current have 12 guys under contract.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I have a feeling his name is being tossed around in the Aldridge meeting.
Riley isn't a big fan of youth when his mindset is win now.

of course its win now!he has traded 3 future first round picks and he is 70 years old. Someone is gonna be left holding the bag at some point and I guarantee you it wont be Riley.

 

[bksballer89]

I have a feeling his name is being tossed around in the Aldridge meeting.
Riley isn't a big fan of youth when his mindset is win now.

I don't think Riley is that dumb. I like Aldridge but I'll never do that.

 

[WiggyRuss]

End of the day, a player is worth what the team he plays for is willing to pay and that's typically based on need. Players who many/most get max deals or paid more that their perceived value because they fill a need a team has. The bigger the need, the bigger the deal. The Heat needed a top tier point guard. They got one. I guarantee, if the Lakers hadn't drafted Russell, they'd have been trying to get in front of Dragic with a max deal.

Only place this seems to be different is Cleveland, where they think tying up $36 million in 1 position is a good idea.

you really think the Cavs should have let go of Love or Thompson?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Not if they win championships, it could change their image. If Kyrie stays he will be there for another 10 years. Not comparing anyone to MJ, but players and championships change franchises. Not saying it is going to happen, but it is something positive.

Absolutely is not happening.
Gilbert's an ass. The city is not a desirable place for NBA players to live.
James is the current attraction.

These guys love South Beach.
I truly think that's why Aldrige apparently wants to play here vs San Antonio.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Absolutely is not happening.
Gilbert's an ass. The city is not a desirable place for NBA players to live.
James is the current attraction.

These guys love South Beach.
I truly think that's why Aldrige apparently wants to play here vs San Antonio.

how the hell have you arrived at the fact that Alridge wants to play in Miami? because he had dinner with Riley?

Kevin Love for months says he is coming back to Cleveland- and that means nothing- but Riley having dinner means he wants to join the Heat over the spurs.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

you really think the Cavs should have let go of Love or Thompson?

Trick question.
Obvious answer is no, because it increases your chances of winning now.
Fans don't care about luxury tax. They just want to win.


However, if you don't, you're in trouble moving forward because even when the cap goes up, you'll have no available space to add anything.

 

[WiggyRuss]

tobe honest I think Aldridge sounds like he wants to be talked into going to the Lakers- but the first meeting really freaked him out....why else schedule and attend a 2nd meeting? that seems really strange- unless the Lakers are just acting out of desperation.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

how the hell have you arrived at the fact that Alridge wants to play in Miami? because he had dinner with Riley?

Kevin Love for months says he is coming back to Cleveland- and that means nothing- but Riley having dinner means he wants to join the Heat over the spurs.

From what I understand, HE reached out to Riley, not the other way around.

Why's he calling Riley if he's not interested in playing here?