As of now...

[jeffro151]

anyone watching Wisconsin paly Maryland tonight must know that Kamisky is no center. He is a 7 foot want-a-be guard. He got shoved around all night long and Maryland led the entire game. Other than Kentucky, each team has some serious weaknesses that can be exploited. I still like Duke, Kentucky, Arizona, and Virginia for the final four; hopefully they will all be in different brackets.

I will go with the title of this thread and say "As of now", the only one of those 4 you listed that isn't a guaranteed #1 is Arizona. Nova has a ridiculously easy final 3 games, while Arizona has a slightly tougher finish, but if they both win out, I don't see how they could reward Nova with a #1 seed of Arizona.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Truly the only seeding that'll REALLY matter is for whichever #2 seed ends up on Kentucky's side of the bracket.

Also, if Arizona wins out they will get the 4th #1 seed for sure, but that's no sure thing. Still have a tough road trip coming up @COL, @UTH and then the Bay schools at home… plus possibly ANOTHER game against Utah if they end up meeting each other in the P12 tourney. Still a ways to go, but if they win all those games I would be shocked if they didn't get a 1 seed.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

BTW- this is why I had Maryland as my sleeper FF team. They have outstanding guard play and Dez Wells is the type of player that could carry a team in the tourney. He has just enough help surrounding him too. They could use another big, but really solid team.

 

[douggie]

Kentucky is a lock. Gonzaga is a virtual lock if they will not likely lose another game before selection Sunday. The ACC Tourney Champ will be a #1 seed. The ACC Runner Up could also possibly be a #1 seed depending on who makes it to the Championship game. Maybe forecasting UVA and Duke at this point is a little premature. Arizona winning the Pac could propel them. Villanova is a long shot as #1 seed. Most likely a #2. Wisconsin losing to Maryland makes them a long shot now for #1 seed. Most likely a #2 seed. Kansas losing to K-State makes them a long shot for a #1 seed, but most likely a #2 if they can hold on to the Big 12 lead. So, this being the case these would be my choices IMHO:

Tourney seeding 2015
#1's- Kentucky, Gonzaga, UVA, Duke
#2's- Arizona, Wisconsin, Kansas, Villanova

 

[jonvi]

So who gets fooked by being the 2 seed in UK's bracket. And who's the lucky one that ends up in the Zags bracket?

jess messin'

 

[Arizona_Sting]

So who gets fooked by being the 2 seed in UK's bracket. And who's the lucky one that ends up in the Zags bracket?

jess messin'

Seriously… what a drop-off that'll be if things remain the same. One team will be pissed and another extremely grateful. The committee will piss someone off for sure.

 

[jontaejones]

I think the #2 to get UK will be determined by geography, so it won't likely be Villanova or Arizona.

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

I think the #2 to get UK will be determined by geography, so it won't likely be Villanova or Arizona.

Gonzaga losing a game now could actually be very bad for AZ if they don't run the table.

If the Zags lose they'll drop to a 2 seed, and unless AZ runs the table they probably won't jump ahead of GU for a 1 seed. It's not out of the question that the Zags get the top 2 seed, get the west spot and send AZ to the midwest to play against UK.

It's not terribly likely, but it's a possibility.

 

[ericd7633]

Truly the only seeding that'll REALLY matter is for whichever #2 seed ends up on Kentucky's side of the bracket.

Also, if Arizona wins out they will get the 4th #1 seed for sure, but that's no sure thing. Still have a tough road trip coming up @COL, @UTH and then the Bay schools at home… plus possibly ANOTHER game against Utah if they end up meeting each other in the P12 tourney. Still a ways to go, but if they win all those games I would be shocked if they didn't get a 1 seed.

Totally disagree. If Nova wins out they will most certainly be ahead of them. Nova has a better resume right now as it is. If Nova wins out that'll be 4 more top 50 RPI wins, which will give them 13 on the season. If Zona wins out they will only add at most 3 top 50 RPI wins. Which will only give them 9 on the season. And that is assuming the Oregon and UCLA wins stay top 50 because right now they are in the high 40's of the RPI.

With all that said, if Duke wins the ACCT against UVA, they'll both be #1 seeds, UK is a lock, as is Gonzaga at this point. Arizona would need to climb two teams. I don't see it happening.

 

[ericd7633]

The loss by Wisconsin was huge last night. I don't see how they get a #1 seed now. There is a VERY good chance the committee puts them in the Midwest with UK, and places Kansas in the South as the #2 seed.

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

The loss by Wisconsin was huge last night. I don't see how they get a #1 seed now. There is a VERY good chance the committee puts them in the Midwest with UK, and places Kansas in the South as the #2 seed.

It was a road loss to a ranked team. Not a bad loss at all. Wisconsin is still very much in the conversation for a 1 seed. Sure the loss hurt them, but if they win out they're still all but a lock for a 1.

 

[ericd7633]

It was a road loss to a ranked team. Not a bad loss at all. Wisconsin is still very much in the conversation for a 1 seed. Sure the loss hurt them, but if they win out they're still all but a lock for a 1.

At who's expense though? Unless a projected 1 seed totally falls flat on their face? It wasn't a bad loss, I agree, but given the landscape I think they had to win out IMO. Gonzaga/Zona are going to be 1/2 out West, most likely in that order, especially if Gonzaga wins out. UK/UVA can both lose multiple games and still be on the 1 line IMO. That leaves Duke/Nova/Wisconsin for the in the South. Duke/Nova have better resumes at this point. I explained above how good Nova's resume is, I'm shocked they aren't getting more play for the final #1 seed. Winning the Big East and potentially the Big East Tourney will trump what Wisconsin can accomplish. Big East is a better conference this year, the committee IMO would reward Nova, if it came down to those two teams for the final #1 .

 

[jontaejones]

Totally disagree. If Nova wins out they will most certainly be ahead of them. Nova has a better resume right now as it is. If Nova wins out that'll be 4 more top 50 RPI wins, which will give them 13 on the season. If Zona wins out they will only add at most 3 top 50 RPI wins. Which will only give them 9 on the season. And that is assuming the Oregon and UCLA wins stay top 50 because right now they are in the high 40's of the RPI.

With all that said, if Duke wins the ACCT against UVA, they'll both be #1 seeds, UK is a lock, as is Gonzaga at this point. Arizona would need to climb two teams. I don't see it happening.

It's quite close.

I do believe that if Arizona, Villanova, and Zaga all run the table, then they'll give the West to either Zona or the Zags just for geography reasons.

I don't think that will happen though.

The best scenario for Nova is that UVA loses two if not three more games and drops off the top line. Which I like UVA actually, but it's kind of the way it's working out. Us or them.

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

At who's expense though? Unless a projected 1 seed totally falls flat on their face? It wasn't a bad loss, I agree, but given the landscape I think they had to win out IMO. Gonzaga/Zona are going to be 1/2 out West, most likely in that order, especially if Gonzaga wins out. UK/UVA can both lose multiple games and still be on the 1 line IMO. That leaves Duke/Nova/Wisconsin for the in the South. Duke/Nova have better resumes at this point. I explained above how good Nova's resume is, I'm shocked they aren't getting more play for the final #1 seed. Winning the Big East and potentially the Big East Tourney will trump what Wisconsin can accomplish. Big East is a better conference this year, the committee IMO would reward Nova, if it came down to those two teams for the final #1 .

Fair point "all but a lock" is probably taking it a bit too far, but I think that loss last night didn't hurt their cause terribly.

 

[ericd7633]

It's quite close.

I do believe that if Arizona, Villanova, and Zaga all run the table, then they'll give the West to either Zona or the Zags just for geography reasons.

I don't think that will happen though.

The best scenario for Nova is that UVA loses two if not three more games and drops off the top line. Which I like UVA actually, but it's kind of the way it's working out. Us or them.

I think if Gonzaga runs the table they are the 1 out west. The committee is going to reward Nova for winning the Big East regular season outright IMO. If Duke slips up again or in the ACCT, I don't see how they can keep Nova off the 1 line if they win out, geography or not. Having a regular season and tournament Big East title will be huge. That's what basically got UVA a one seed last year as well.

 

[dcZONAfan]

I'd like to change one of my picks. Can anybody guess which one?

You sure you don't want to change two of those, Trolly? I will stand by my "Kansas isn't good enough" statement no matter how many wins they pile up.

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

You sure you don't want to change two of those, Trolly? I will stand by my "Kansas isn't good enough" statement no matter how many wins they pile up.

Obviously it will make a difference depending on if they are seeded with one of my other picks, but beyond that I have no issue sticking with KU.

 

[jontaejones]

I think if Gonzaga runs the table they are the 1 out west. The committee is going to reward Nova for winning the Big East regular season outright IMO. If Duke slips up again or in the ACCT, I don't see how they can keep Nova off the 1 line if they win out, geography or not. Having a regular season and tournament Big East title will be huge. That's what basically got UVA a one seed last year as well.

A #1 seed would be nice, but as a Nova fan, I'd rather be a #2 seed taking on UVA in the Carrier Dome than a #1 seed taking on Arizona at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Like I said, the ideal is UVA losing and us getting the East #1, but then they probably become the #2 at worst, and it's the same salami really.

Far into the future though. @Xavier will be tough.

 

[ericd7633]

A #1 seed would be nice, but as a Nova fan, I'd rather be a #2 seed taking on UVA in the Carrier Dome than a #1 seed taking on Arizona at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Like I said, the ideal is UVA losing and us getting the East #1, but then they probably become the #2 at worst, and it's the same salami really.

Far into the future though. @Xavier will be tough.

I'd agree with that too from a fan's perspective. I don't think Nova would get shipped out West, especially with Gonzaga, but I could see them being the one in the South. Hell it may only take one UVA loss to get Nova to the top line in the East. I can see it being this:

East: #1 Nova/#2 Duke
South: #1 UVA/#2 KU
Midwest: #1 UK/ #2 Wisconsin
West: #1 Gonzaga/#2 Zona

 

[jonvi]

Great discussions here. And the tournament is going to be a blast. Other than UK ripping it up as expected, everyone else's resume's are very close.

As usual, who's in the FF is going to depend on who ends up in what bracket.