why do you not hear anything on Aaron Murray?

[sooner4life130]

Since the offseason started, nobody has said a word on Murray from Georgia. Hell they're even talking about the LSU guy rather than Murray. If I'm not mistaken, Murray broke ALL of the SEC records in the same offense Stafford was in. Anybody who has seen the guy play knows he's a baller and a good passer. Aaron Murray in my opinion will be my QB sleeper in this draft.

 

[Davis_Mike]

He is short and short-armed with small hands. He also has a small frame at 207 lbs.

And to add to that:

-Average arm talent
-Marginal deep-ball accuracy
-Needs to work on his footwork
-Loses poise under duress

Those are just a few things I noticed.

 

[sooner4life130]

He is short and short-armed with small hands. He also has a small frame at 207 lbs.

And to add to that:

-Average arm talent
-Marginal deep-ball accuracy
-Needs to work on his footwork
-Loses poise under duress

Those are just a few things I noticed.

Right, so a guy breaks all SEC records but loses poise and doesn't have arm talent. Murray plays in the best defensive conference and during his career he's seen some of the BEST defensive players of the past 4 years going to the next level. Now sure how you can observe him and these were your thoughts. Either you just looked up what some expert has to say or you watched a game or two and made an observation based on a FEW games.

 

[Davis_Mike]

Right, so a guy breaks all SEC records but loses poise and doesn't have arm talent. Murray plays in the best defensive conference and during his career he's seen some of the BEST defensive players of the past 4 years going to the next level. Now sure how you can observe him and these were your thoughts. Either you just looked up what some expert has to say or you watched a game or two and made an observation based on a FEW games.

Plenty of guys set records in college football every year that never see a down in the NFL. I've seen him play 3-4 times a season over the last few seasons. He has average at best arm strength & is inaccurate on his deep balls. He also seems to get rattled in the pocket. There is a reason why he is looked at like a 4-5 round pick. At best, you could could compare him to a smaller framed Andy Dalton. If that's what you are looking for in a QB, go for it.

 

[gowazzu02]

Right, so a guy breaks all SEC records but loses poise and doesn't have arm talent. Murray plays in the best defensive conference and during his career he's seen some of the BEST defensive players of the past 4 years going to the next level. Now sure how you can observe him and these were your thoughts. Either you just looked up what some expert has to say or you watched a game or two and made an observation based on a FEW games.

I thought we were past the myth that the SEC's defenses were any better then any other anymore. You know since Auburn won the SEC with a corner back at qb. And Johnny Manziels been torching the league for two years straight.

 

[sooner4life130]

I thought we were past the myth that the SEC's defenses were any better then any other anymore. You know since Auburn won the SEC with a corner back at qb. And Johnny Manziels been torching the league for two years straight.

I hate the SEC but it's no myth. Their bowl game wins speak for themselves. Just because my Sooners beat an overrated Bama team doesn't mean the SEC is weak on D.

Also, I would take Murray over Messenberger everyday of the week especially on Sunday. Murray is 6-1 208 lbs. Oh well, the guy still played against the best defensive players in the country the past 4 years and was successful. Don't believe me? Look at how many first round players were from the SEC. I'm not saying Murray is amazing, I'm just saying there isn't much of a gap between him and the rest of the qb's in this draft.

Personally I think this draft for QB's is vastly overrated. It's pretty ridiculous how much talk there's been about the "top" qb's. I like Bridgewater and I'm intrigued by JF. Outside of that not sure why anyone would waste a first rounder on any of the rest.

 

[SonnyCID]

Every year we hear this same argument for QBs coming out of the SEC, "They did this and that against the best defenses in the country". And they rarely do anything once in the NFL.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Aaron Murray has a reputation for being a choke artist and playing his worst, in high pressure situations. College football fans remember his performances against LSU and Alabama in the conference championship games and his poor performances against South Carolina and Florida. Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater all have the reputation for coming up big in big games.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

He is short and short-armed with small hands. He also has a small frame at 207 lbs.

And to add to that:

-Average arm talent
-Marginal deep-ball accuracy
-Needs to work on his footwork
-Loses poise under duress

Those are just a few things I noticed.

So Kellen Moore without the horse face.

 

[SonnyCID]

So Kellen Moore without the horse face.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I've seen roughly half of the UGA games Murray played in.

Certainly has some talent, but I think he's a back up at the next level. Had Mettenberger been able to stay @ UGA, I don't think Aaron ever sees the field. imo the talent gap was that wide.

 

[night]

Aaron Murray has a reputation for being a choke artist and playing his worst, in high pressure situations. College football fans remember his performances against LSU and Alabama in the conference championship games and his poor performances against South Carolina and Florida. Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater all have the reputation for coming up big in big games.

I'm sorry but this is complete garbage. You're calling a guy a choke artist because his defense continually puts the team in a hole at the end of the game? Hell most of these games you're throwing him under the bus for were straight up shootouts where he did perform well.

The legitimate knocks on Murray are arm strength and size. He definitely doesn't have the prototypical frame of a NFL quarterback. He is very accurate and can run a pro-style offense efficiently. The combination of those things is where he draws a lot of comparisons to Drew Brees. I don't know if Murray will ever get a shot to prove himself but I'm seeing him being written off for all of the wrong reasons in this thread.

 

[night]

I've seen roughly half of the UGA games Murray played in.

Certainly has some talent, but I think he's a back up at the next level. Had Mettenberger been able to stay @ UGA, I don't think Aaron ever sees the field. imo the talent gap was that wide.

Murray had the spot secured over Mettenberger because he was far more refined as a freshman. Mettenberger had a huge arm, not much accuracy, and didn't seem to understand the offense that well. I think sitting for a while really helped him understand the game.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Murray had the spot secured over Mettenberger because he was far more refined as a freshman. Mettenberger had a huge arm, not much accuracy, and didn't seem to understand the offense that well. I think sitting for a while really helped him understand the game.

True...Zach also had some growing up to do, but I do think if Richt had kept him and kept the competition open Mettenberger would've taken the job, but once Murray was the guy I don't think Mettenberger handled it well...ironic that both had ACL going into the draft.

I think Murray will be a 4th round pick and as you say probably won't get a true chance to be a starter. This may sound crazy but I would take a healthy Murray over Manziel and probably over McCarron.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

I'm sorry but this is complete garbage. You're calling a guy a choke artist because his defense continually puts the team in a hole at the end of the game? Hell most of these games you're throwing him under the bus for were straight up shootouts where he did perform well.

The legitimate knocks on Murray are arm strength and size. He definitely doesn't have the prototypical frame of a NFL quarterback. He is very accurate and can run a pro-style offense efficiently. The combination of those things is where he draws a lot of comparisons to Drew Brees. I don't know if Murray will ever get a shot to prove himself but I'm seeing him being written off for all of the wrong reasons in this thread.

Where did I call him a choke artist? I said he has a reputation for being a choke artists and falling apart in big games.

 

[night]

Where did I call him a choke artist? I said he has a reputation for being a choke artists and falling apart in big games.

Even though he did struggle his sophomore year against LSU in the SEC championship game I think it's pretty ridiculous to hang the loss on the guy in the Alabama game for driving up the field with less than a minute left. I can't blame you for watching only a hand full of games but that statement told me you haven't seen his growth and poise throughout his career like I have. I don't expect him to be the next Drew Brees but I think he's far more qualified than a Brandon Weeden.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Even though he did struggle his sophomore year against LSU in the SEC championship game I think it's pretty ridiculous to hang the loss on the guy in the Alabama game for driving up the field with less than a minute left. I can't blame you for watching only a hand full of games but that statement told me you haven't seen his growth and poise throughout his career like I have. I don't expect him to be the next Drew Brees but I think he's far more qualified than a Brandon Weeden.

You still don't get it. I am simply stating his "reputation." I do agree that he played better last season. He did put up strong performances against LSU, Auburn, South Carolina, and Clemson. However, people do remember him most for choking against Alabama (He went for the check down instead of the end zone), his bad performance against Florida, and his question performances against LSU and Michigan State in 2011. Regardless of reality, Murray does have the choker reputation.

 

[night]

You still don't get it. I am simply stating his "reputation." I do agree that he played better last season. He did put up strong performances against LSU, Auburn, South Carolina, and Clemson. However, people do remember him most for choking against Alabama (He went for the check down instead of the end zone), his bad performance against Florida, and his question performances against LSU and Michigan State in 2011. Regardless of reality, Murray does have the choker reputation.

I really don't. The guy plays lights out football and the only thing someone who saw him play 1% of his career can tell him is that he is a choke artist.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Because he's shorter than me...

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

I really don't. The guy plays lights out football and the only thing someone who saw him play 1% of his career can tell him is that he is a choke artist.

That's fine, but don't blame the messenger for his inconsistent performances against elite competition. I do believe it's his knock, that he falls apart under duress.

Why are you so "protective" of him? I shouldn't be the bearer of bad news that he isn't seen on the same level as Blake Bortles, Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manizel, Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo, and AJ McCarron. He's in the Logan Thomas, Zach Mettenberger, Tom Savage, and David Fales group.