NFCCG: SF @ Sea 1/19/13

[STBR 27]

I'm not going to say there hasn't been luck involved but being lucky is just part of the game. The Seahawks themselves have had some pretty favorable luck in some situations that have helped them win games.

But Kap did engineer the drive at the end of the half of the Carolina game that really swung momentum in the team's favor.

And that's the kind of clutch I'm talking about. I can pick lots of plays that Kap could've done better but when the team has needed the plays most as of late he's been up to the task.

On the flipside the same could be said for Wilson. There were plenty of plays he probably wishes he had back against the Saints but when he really had to make a play he made the play. He's had games with terrible stats but he got it done in the key moments and you guys won.

But it's just not Kap either. Gore has come up with some huge runs in big moments and the defense has made key stops when it was needed.

Boldin not getting a personal foul for the headbutt that was exactly the same as what CAR did in the first half was lucky on that drive*

Many times clutch = lucky

 

[WizardHawk]

Both of these teams and QB's are in the same boat. They are on defense first teams with heavy run orientated offenses and are not asked to do nearly as much as QB's on more pass heavy teams. Both have made late game comebacks. For all of the talk about Kaepernick, no one should forget coming back from 18 down to the Texans or 21 down to Tampa. When he has been asked to pass to get the team down field he has done so and has been very much the reason a few of those games ended up with a W.

But when your team is leading so often because of your stingy defense the offense goes into a conservative clock eating mode and your QB doesn't get the same chances to get any type of risky throws down field.

Both of these teams have had stagnant offenses at times and both have feasted off of opponents mistakes. This game favors Seattle with their nasty defense at home in front of that crowd, but not having Percy favors SF that has all of their offensive weapons and has been using them well enough to win on the road in recent weeks. Who comes out on top on Sunday? We are only a little over 48 hours from kick off before we all find out the answer to that.

 

[octagondd]

KJ is a go, but how do you feel about that? I think it could be detrimental. It took Wags a couple weeks to get back up to speed and I am concerned KJ will not be at his full potential.

 

[STBR 27]

KJ is a go, but how do you feel about that? I think it could be detrimental. It took Wags a couple weeks to get back up to speed and I am concerned KJ will not be at his full potential.

Start slow, like on obvious running plays because he is better than Smith against the run and see how he does. If he struggles, stay with Smith.

 

[octagondd]

Start slow, like on obvious running plays because he is better than Smith against the run and see how he does. If he struggles, stay with Smith.

Yeah, I am afraid of him getting burned in coverage by VD, or overpursuing Gore on a cutback because he just hasn't played lately. Or overcompensating for not being as explosive by guessing. We don't need that, we need guys making solid reads and getting in their gaps.

 

[dredinis21]

Boldin not getting a personal foul for the headbutt that was exactly the same as what CAR did in the first half was lucky on that drive*

Many times clutch = lucky

Niners D shut the Panthers out in the second half. Considering we were up 3 going into halftime, I hardly consider that luck in the form you are implying.

 

[dredinis21]

Regarding the match ups and trying to get into Boldin's head. You have one CB that can do that and that is Sherman. That means that if Sherman is manning up on Boldin all day, you are resting your defensive backfield hopes on Maxwell matching up against Crabtree. I agree Maxwell to be a nice player but Crabtree is far superior. So who do you SEA fans want Sherman to man up on? To me, it seems as if that is a "pick your poison" scenario. If you man up RS on AB, then Crabtree goes off and frankly I hope this is the case. If you match up RS on Crabs, then Boldin is one on one with Maxwell.

 

[octagondd]

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Niners D shut the Panthers out in the second half. Considering we were up 3 going into halftime, I hardly consider that luck in the form you are implying.

We just won't be stupid enough to try to punch it in on the goalline twice to prove a point against your D-line. Panthers left a possible 11 points out there because of that idiocy. Not enough to win, but it would have made it a better game in the end. We would have gotten at least 6 and possibly 14 points there where they got 3.

 

[dredinis21]

Yeah, I am afraid of him getting burned in coverage by VD, or overpursuing Gore on a cutback because he just hasn't played lately. Or overcompensating for not being as explosive by guessing. We don't need that, we need guys making solid reads and getting in their gaps.

I get what you are saying and I agree for sure. However, a legit question because I don't the "attitude" of the defensive players involved. Does KJ handle being a situational player as he comes back and shakes off rust or does he bitch about being a situational player? Again, if KJ seems to be a team-first guy then this is a moot point but if he is someone like a Brandon Jacobs, where he is an asshole if he doesn't get what he wants, then that may be problematic.

 

[dredinis21]

We just won't be stupid enough to try to punch it in on the goalline twice to prove a point against your D-line. Panthers left a possible 11 points out there because of that idiocy. Not enough to win, but it would have made it a better game in the end. We would have gotten at least 6 and possibly 14 points there where they got 3.

So are you saying that you WOULDN'T run the ball consistently with Lynch when the ball is on the 2 yard line? If so, I say PLEASE be the SEA coach this weekend.

There is only one guy on your offense that scares me and its Lynch. I think Wilson is good but much like Kaep, he needs his OL to actually protect and he needs his WRs to actually get open. I feel as if the higher likelihood of Lynch punching it in given 7 chances from the 2 is a smart decision.

CAR tried with Tolbert and Cam. Conceivably, who would argue that logic in the moment? Hindsight is always easy to argue because the outcome was already determined.

Last year, Niner fans (myself included) were livid with the play calling in the SB, where at the 5 yard line the ball was not handed off to Gore at all in the closing drive but instead passed. IMO, you go with your strength and for SEA, it is obviously your strength is Marshawn Lynch.

 

[octagondd]

Regarding the match ups and trying to get into Boldin's head. You have one CB that can do that and that is Sherman. That means that if Sherman is manning up on Boldin all day, you are resting your defensive backfield hopes on Maxwell matching up against Crabtree. I agree Maxwell to be a nice player but Crabtree is far superior. So who do you SEA fans want Sherman to man up on? To me, it seems as if that is a "pick your poison" scenario. If you man up RS on AB, then Crabtree goes off and frankly I hope this is the case. If you match up RS on Crabs, then Boldin is one on one with Maxwell.

I believe they will play their own sides this game. Only in week 2 did Sherman take Boldin exclusively in man to man situations. Also, Crabtree will most likely be covered by Thurmond or Lane in the slot and Maxwell if he is outside. Not sure how you can assume Crabs goes off against whoever he is lined up against. The niners have only faced a couple good pass defenses in the last 8 games, one of them being us and Kaep was held to a very low passer rating and QBR. That game hinged on our LB getting hurt and the backup overpursuing Gore's cutback as well as Earl Thomas trying for a big hit instead of a tackle.

 

[octagondd]

So are you saying that you WOULDN'T run the ball consistently with Lynch when the ball is on the 2 yard line? If so, I say PLEASE be the SEA coach this weekend.

There is only one guy on your offense that scares me and its Lynch. I think Wilson is good but much like Kaep, he needs his OL to actually protect and he needs his WRs to actually get open. I feel as if the higher likelihood of Lynch punching it in given 7 chances from the 2 is a smart decision.

CAR tried with Tolbert and Cam. Conceivably, who would argue that logic in the moment? Hindsight is always easy to argue because the outcome was already determined.

Last year, Niner fans (myself included) were livid with the play calling in the SB, where at the 5 yard line the ball was not handed off to Gore at all in the closing drive but instead passed. IMO, you go with your strength and for SEA, it is obviously your strength is Marshawn Lynch.

No, we won't and it pisses some of us off, but our O-line is not capable of winning in a jumbo situation usually. Carolina lined up jumbo and basicly told you what they were going to do. I was screaming at the tv when they did it both times. The least they could have done was run read option or run off tackle or a counter, or a rollout. It was stupid and it was clear they were trying to send a "we are tougher than you" message. It backfired, twice.

 

[TheDman875]

So a handful (not all of them) of 49er faithful are actually celebrating Harvin being out this Sunday. I understand all teams have fans like this, but it still never ceases to blow me away seeing that garbage.

 

[octagondd]

I don't think they are celebrating his injury, just that he is not playing which means we have one less weapon. I would be happy if any of the Niner playmakers weren't playing, just not happy or gloating about an injury.

 

[octagondd]

I get what you are saying and I agree for sure. However, a legit question because I don't the "attitude" of the defensive players involved. Does KJ handle being a situational player as he comes back and shakes off rust or does he bitch about being a situational player? Again, if KJ seems to be a team-first guy then this is a moot point but if he is someone like a Brandon Jacobs, where he is an asshole if he doesn't get what he wants, then that may be problematic.

I think KJ is a team player. No first-hand knowledge, but a feeling. Could be wrong. The thing about Carroll's always compete philosophy is player's cannot get too comfortable with their spot. There is someone pounding on the door, like Malcom Smith. If anyone's has that attitude, they should call TJ Whosurdaddy and ask him how things worked out with that attitude.

 

[octagondd]

btw, 2 years ago I was in the bay area during the Niner-Giants game since my brother-in-law's nephew plays for the Giants, and guess who was at the Giants hotel? Brandon Jacobs. He was obviously not happy about sitting on the bench in SF and needed to talk to his old boys again.

 

[Uhsplit]

Regarding the match ups and trying to get into Boldin's head. You have one CB that can do that and that is Sherman. That means that if Sherman is manning up on Boldin all day, you are resting your defensive backfield hopes on Maxwell matching up against Crabtree. I agree Maxwell to be a nice player but Crabtree is far superior. So who do you SEA fans want Sherman to man up on? To me, it seems as if that is a "pick your poison" scenario. If you man up RS on AB, then Crabtree goes off and frankly I hope this is the case. If you match up RS on Crabs, then Boldin is one on one with Maxwell.

dred, you will need some data to back that up, but I disagree completely. Just look at Maxwell's CB rating. IIRC, his is even better than Sherm's, he is just a much more quiet personality.

 

[WizardHawk]

KJ isn't likely to start this game. Smith will start and KJ will play situational plays. Even if he isn't 100% you take him if he is available and you use him any time he might give you an edge over your enemy. This is for all the marbles and is no time to get cautious. This is war and second place means nothing. All hands on deck and leave none alive.

 

[gohusk]

When did Michael Crabtree become Jerry Rice? All I'm hearing about is how a guy who's had one 1000+ yard season and happens to drop more than his fair share is back. I'm more worried about Boldin to tell you the truth, but we made him look like the old man he is the last time he was here. Both of these passing offenses are over-matched and it's probably going to be a low scoring affair, unless Kaep shits his pants once again.

 

[Wolvie]

Regarding the match ups and trying to get into Boldin's head. You have one CB that can do that and that is Sherman. That means that if Sherman is manning up on Boldin all day, you are resting your defensive backfield hopes on Maxwell matching up against Crabtree. I agree Maxwell to be a nice player but Crabtree is far superior. So who do you SEA fans want Sherman to man up on? To me, it seems as if that is a "pick your poison" scenario. If you man up RS on AB, then Crabtree goes off and frankly I hope this is the case. If you match up RS on Crabs, then Boldin is one on one with Maxwell.

I'll pick my poison with Kaep. Doesn't matter who mans up on who as the guy with better coverage is bound to get a "kaeppy" throw his way.

And yes, I just coined a phrase. Any throw that Kaep throws that is a dud is a "kaeppy" throw