If every team in your division merged to make a super team

[Wazmankg]

Yes...those AFC West fans are really cocky!

It's good to see that you recognize it. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

 

[darken65]

It's good to see that you recognize it. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

It is good that you never noticed my comment was based on your comment about the AFC West. It is all good in a debate anyway. Noboby will ever be right or wrong as it will never happen.

 

[BobGnarly]

AFC West defense? Don't think anyone is hyping that group up, now the offense would be a force.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I love the AFC west offense with Manning at the helm. The AFC West defense has a nice passrush, but the CB's are very meh when stacked up to other divisions. Depth is not that strong on defense. I would give the nod to the NFCWest.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I'd say the NFC West would win with ease. There defense would be unreal in comparison to the other divisions. Excellent running game with Lynch & Gore. OL play would be steller. The QB's would be young wipersnappers like Kaepernick & Wilson. The only spot of concern for me would be WR. Reunited Fitz and Boldin wouldn't be bad though.

 

[SeattleCoug]

The only spot of concern for me would be WR. Reunited Fitz and Boldin wouldn't be bad though.

Outside of Fitz you wouldnt get any legit numbers 1 from that group. If they were healthy I think Crabtree and Harvin would add a lot to that group. Guys like Boldin, Golden Tate and Michael Floyd are good but not great so yea thats probably the weakest spot on the NFC West roster. I think they make up for it with their running game and stellar defense.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I dont see anyone scoring much on the defense the NFC West would throw out there.

When the NFC North has Aaron Rodgers at QB, Adrian Peterson at RB and Calvin Johnson at WR -- I'm sorry, but to say you don't see anyone scoring is silly.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Outside of Fitz you wouldnt get any legit numbers 1 from that group. If they were healthy I think Crabtree and Harvin would add a lot to that group. Guys like Boldin, Golden Tate and Michael Floyd are good but not great so yea thats probably the weakest spot on the NFC West roster. I think they make up for it with their running game and stellar defense.

With the NFC West WRs -- you could put 8 in the box to stop the run, as they are extremely weak at WR.

The CBs of the NFC West would be sick though -- Peterson and Sherman on the outside. Not going to find a better pair in the NFL anywhere.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

With the NFC West WRs -- you could put 8 in the box to stop the run, as they are extremely weak at WR.

The CBs of the NFC West would be sick though -- Peterson and Sherman on the outside. Not going to find a better pair in the NFL anywhere.

Really? With Larry Fitzgerald at WR and Vernon Davis as the TE? With a OL that could give the QB tons of time and a QB who extents plays even longer? Your going to go 8 in the box? Mmmmm doesn't sound like a great plan to me.

 

[Jakology]

Sherman and Thomas on Calvin at all times. Calvin = shutdown then. Peterson on Marshall. I'll take my chances and put 8 in the box to stop AP. Yes, you can try to torch me with Jeffery or Nelson over the middle, but I think the linebackers are athletic enough to make enough plays to keep it manageable. I think the NFC West wins. Just my opinion.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Really? With Larry Fitzgerald at WR and Vernon Davis as the TE? With a OL that could give the QB tons of time and a QB who extents plays even longer? Your going to go 8 in the box? Mmmmm doesn't sound like a great plan to me.

Absolutely -- Only time I would really worry about Fitzgerald is in the red zone. He isn't even the leading WR on his own team. Michael Floyd is right now. Fitzgerald hasn't looked like an elite WR since 2011. Last two years, he has been a possession type WR averaging around 11 yards a catch. Fitzgerald wouldn't even be a starter at WR if he was in the NFC North -- I'd take, obviously Megatron, while Marshall and Jeffrey would take the other outside spot. I'd put Randall Cobb on the slot man in the North.

And I'm sorry -- no QB is going to have a ton of time when you have Julius Peppers, Jared Allen, Ndamakung Suh, Nick Fairley, etc. on the DL. Just isn't going to happen. It is a pick your poison type of deal. Who are you going to double team? Who are you going to leave to be blocked one on one?

If the NFC West had an elite QB -- I would say they'd win in a landslide. But with a weak WR corp and Russell Wilson the best option at QB -- They'd struggle offensively, unless they were able to run the ball, which would be the toughest thing to do when you are facing an all-star team by conference. In today's NFL, it is setup for QB and WRs to succeed, so it'd be much easier to pass the ball in a situation like this, because of the extreme rules they have in place.

 

[Itsmytime]

With the NFC West WRs -- you could put 8 in the box to stop the run, as they are extremely weak at WR.

The CBs of the NFC West would be sick though -- Peterson and Sherman on the outside. Not going to find a better pair in the NFL anywhere.

You stack 8 in the box and guys like Fitzgerald, Crabtree and a healthy Harvin will hurt you

 

[darken65]

With the NFC West WRs -- you could put 8 in the box to stop the run, as they are extremely weak at WR.

The CBs of the NFC West would be sick though -- Peterson and Sherman on the outside. Not going to find a better pair in the NFL anywhere.

Hardly. I might say they are average compared to the entire league. They also have to face the best defenses in the NFL. When was the last time Calvin and Stafford went against an elite D?

 

[molsaniceman]

Hardly. I might say they are average compared to the entire league. They also have to face the best defenses in the NFL. When was the last time Calvin and Stafford went against an elite D?

Arizona megatron 110 yds/2TDs Though doubt most call zona elite

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

You stack 8 in the box and guys like Fitzgerald, Crabtree and a healthy Harvin will hurt you

I'm sorry, but when you are putting together "all-star teams", guys like Crabtree and Harvin aren't exactly striking fear into opposing teams. Fitzgerald is one of the best in the red zone, but he hasn't been the same guy the last couple years (back to back years with a career low YPC average).

So I'd have no problem putting 8 in the box against that WR Corp, if running the ball is what the NFC West wanted to do.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Arizona megatron 110 yds/2TDs Though doubt most call zona elite

Actually -- Megatron put that up in the 1st half when the Cardinals decided to let Peterson cover Megatron man to man. They put an end to that in the 2nd half and started doubling him while dropping the safeties 20 yards off the line of scrimmage.

I'm sorry, but there isn't anyone who is going to cover Megatron one on one all game. It is impossible, especially with the NFL rules they have in place that put the defense at a disadvantage.

 

[darken65]

Arizona megatron 110 yds/2TDs Though doubt most call zona elite

Detroit lost that game. I have no doubt that Calvin is one of, if not the best WR in the game today. I just don't see him getting very far with an NFCW defense.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Hardly. I might say they are average compared to the entire league.

Really? Ok -- I will list just the NFC division WR corps. You tell me which one the NFC West is better than.

NFC North:
Calvin Johnson
Brandon Marshall
Alshon Jeffrey
Jordy Nelson
Randall Cobb

NFC East:
Dez Bryant
DeSean Jackson
Victor Cruz

NFC South:
Julio Jones
Roddy White
Marquis Colston
Vincent Jackson
Steve Smith

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Detroit lost that game. I have no doubt that Calvin is one of, if not the best WR in the game today. I just don't see him getting very far with an NFCW defense.

Uhhh -- this isn't Calvin Johnson on his own, like it is when he is on the Lions. His QB will be Aaron Rodgers, the 2011 NFL MVP. His RB will be Adrian Peterson, the 2012 NFL MVP. The other WRs will be Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffrey, Jordy Nelson or Randall Cobb.

When you play Detroit -- I agree -- you can find ways to take Megatron out of the game, by dropping the safeties 20 yards off the line of scrimmage and rolling the safety to his side of the field.

Are you going to do that with Adrian Peterson at RB? He has averaged 5.4 YPC this year against teams putting 8 men in the box. GOOD LUCK WITH TRYING TO STOP THAT OFFENSE.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Absolutely -- Only time I would really worry about Fitzgerald is in the red zone. He isn't even the leading WR on his own team. Michael Floyd is right now. Fitzgerald hasn't looked like an elite WR since 2011. Last two years, he has been a possession type WR averaging around 11 yards a catch. Fitzgerald wouldn't even be a starter at WR if he was in the NFC North -- I'd take, obviously Megatron, while Marshall and Jeffrey would take the other outside spot. I'd put Randall Cobb on the slot man in the North.

And I'm sorry -- no QB is going to have a ton of time when you have Julius Peppers, Jared Allen, Ndamakung Suh, Nick Fairley, etc. on the DL. Just isn't going to happen. It is a pick your poison type of deal. Who are you going to double team? Who are you going to leave to be blocked one on one?

If the NFC West had an elite QB -- I would say they'd win in a landslide. But with a weak WR corp and Russell Wilson the best option at QB -- They'd struggle offensively, unless they were able to run the ball, which would be the toughest thing to do when you are facing an all-star team by conference. In today's NFL, it is setup for QB and WRs to succeed, so it'd be much easier to pass the ball in a situation like this, because of the extreme rules they have in place.

Sorry but none of these linemen are run stoppers. Also if your going call Fitz old , your going have call Peppers and Jared Allen old also, I think you over rate Farley and Suh can be taken advantage of on running plays. So yes the NFC West OL could hold these guys at bay. Just who do have in the secondary in the North?
You know, I just see a different culture between the NFC West and the NFC North. The West are throw backs who believe in a stout defense and solid running game. The North has gone the stud position players and have neglected the battle in the trenches and a solid defense. You see NFC west posters give you a complete lineup. NFC North posters just want to talk about offense, but not the OL, just position players. When pushed you'll add some flashy one dimensional pass rushers, no talk about LBs or the secondary players or DL who shut down the run.