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More defense? Maybe in the blowout wins where a Division I school is playing a Division III school and the final score is 70-7. Yes there is more offense in the NFL now than there was 20 years ago but it is nowhere near what the college game has. This is why the Broncos just set their all-time record at 52 points where college football many of the Division I programs seem to have half their games against scrub teams where they score this many points.

Throw in the NFL has some of the highest turnover in top teams where college football about the same 10 schools or so seem to remain great for years upon years. I would rather not know who is going to be the top BCS Schools at the end of the year 4 months in advance.

college games have always been high scoring games because of the talent disparity, when i say more defense i mean a more level playing filed between offense and defense. The rules in the NCAA don't favor the offense any where near the way they do in the NFL.
 
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Love the double standard of some people. Whenever there is a 6-3 game, people complain about how boring and unwatchable the game is. Then you have the same people complain about rule changes and arena league-esque football whenever there's a 41-38 game. :rollseyes:
 

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I think the OP might just be confused. The Ravens are still an NFL team, not a college team, mcro.
 

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college games have always been high scoring games because of the talent disparity, when i say more defense i mean a more level playing filed between offense and defense. The rules in the NCAA don't favor the offense any where near the way they do in the NFL.

So the hash mark difference and time stopping on every first down don't help the offense? Hmmm could have fooled me.

Or the size of the roster?
 

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Which game would you rather watch tomorrow night, Bills at Browns or UCLA at Utah?
 

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college games have always been high scoring games because of the talent disparity, when i say more defense i mean a more level playing filed between offense and defense. The rules in the NCAA don't favor the offense any where near the way they do in the NFL.

There's not a level playing field. Most colleges put their best athletes on offense. Add in to that the rules I mentioned such as stopping the clock and the placement of the hash marks and college football is far more favorable to offense than the NFL is.
 

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I think the OP might just be confused. The Ravens are still an NFL team, not a college team, mcro.

Maybe he's just bitter because the Ravens had their most points ever hung on them earlier this year.
 

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So the hash mark difference and time stopping on every first down don't help the offense? Hmmm could have fooled me.

Or the size of the roster?

explain to me how the spread out hash marks make it harder for the offense? Now the time deal does help but that's only a 2 minute rule, and i'd change that rule in college as well. Size of roster is more for scholarships, than on the field advantages.
 

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explain to me how the spread out hash marks make it harder for the offense? Now the time deal does help but that's only a 2 minute rule, and i'd change that rule in college as well. Size of roster is more for scholarships, than on the field advantages.

The clock stops after every first down in college, not just at the two minute mark. The spread out hashmarks creates more space to one side of the field that the offense can exploit. The expanded rosters allow the offenses to run plays at the crazy fast pace without the worry of wearing out players like the NFL.
 

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Not even close!

I use to think the pro game was better than college, because they had pretty much the same rules, and the NFL players just played a more watchable game. I have now done a 180 and i think the college game is more entertaining that the pro game. I just like college rules better, watching the NFL today is like watching arena football. The fact that a team is averaging over 40+ point proves that defense in the pro game irrelevant, and for me, a game just isn't exciting, when you pretty much know the last team with the ball will win the game.

In my opinion, the only way the NFL will become better than NCAA football again, will be if the NFL gets rid of illegal contact.

I'm a sunday guy through and through, but I now appreciate CFB much better than I did 10-15 years ago.

Simple...the players are so much better, and QB play is light years better than college...where college smokes the NFL (at least in major college FB) is the game day experience.

Where you can and cannot hit a ball carrier has changed the game, the middle of the field is open to a much higher percentage of players now. The pro game is still much better imo.
 

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I'm a sunday guy through and through, but I now appreciate CFB much better than I did 10-15 years ago.

Simple...the players are so much better, and QB play is light years better than college...where college smokes the NFL (at least in major college FB) is the game day experience.

Where you can and cannot hit a ball carrier has changed the game, the middle of the field is open to a much higher percentage of players now. The pro game is still much better imo.

it's easier to keep up with players in the pro game to me anyway and i agree the player are much better and that's why i use to like the pro game better, but the rules have just changed the game so much that's it's not as fun to watch. Just my opinion.
 

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I honestly can't believe you guys shot down the College OT system in favor of the NFL version. You are seriously content with a team driving roughly 40-50 yards, kicking a FG and grabbing a win with no chance for your team to go down the field and either score a TD or FG itself? That's completely fair...not.
 

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explain to me how the spread out hash marks make it harder for the offense? Now the time deal does help but that's only a 2 minute rule, and i'd change that rule in college as well. Size of roster is more for scholarships, than on the field advantages.

Defenses have more area to cover. With the spread formations in college so many more plays open up with so much more room to roam. Size of roster makes a huge difference. Look at chip Kelly's team as a great example. They have nothing left come 4th quarter. With being able to substitute like crazy in college defenses just are not as talented in depth as offense.

As has already been said but the clock stoppage is all game long not just last two minutes. Throw in for the college level it is that much harder to gameplan on the defensive side of the ball because players don't have as much time with classes and college regulations.

Also those scholarships and school name can give certain programs huge advantages when it comes to recruiting where the pros at least have the cap to try and keep things as even as possible.
 

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I honestly can't believe you guys shot down the College OT system in favor of the NFL version. You are seriously content with a team driving roughly 40-50 yards, kicking a FG and grabbing a win with no chance for your team to go down the field and either score a TD or FG itself? That's completely fair...not.

Do you actually know what the pro OT rules are?
 

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Defenses have more area to cover. With the spread formations in college so many more plays open up with so much more room to roam. Size of roster makes a huge difference. Look at chip Kelly's team as a great example. They have nothing left come 4th quarter. With being able to substitute like crazy in college defenses just are not as talented in depth as offense.

As has already been said but the clock stoppage is all game long not just last two minutes. Throw in for the college level it is that much harder to gameplan on the defensive side of the ball because players don't have as much time with classes and college regulations.

Also those scholarships and school name can give certain programs huge advantages when it comes to recruiting where the pros at least have the cap to try and keep things as even as possible.

Oregon has never won a national championship and most team that have won a NC, have been defensively driven. It's no coincidence that the best defense in college football has won back to back national championship.
 
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Oregon has never won a national championship and most team that have have been defensively driven. It's no coincidence that the best defense in college football has won back to back national championship.

You mean the superior recruiting of grabbing a huge chunk of the top 100 recruits every year? Seriously you have no clue what you are talking about? If they are all defense why do their offensive players get picked every year in the 1st round of the draft?
 

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Do you actually know what the pro OT rules are?

They just changed the OT rules last year to make it more fair, but a TD on the opening drive of OT still wins the game and it's not like that in college.
 

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You mean the superior recruiting of grabbing a huge chunk of the top 100 recruits every year? Seriously you have no clue what you are talking about? If they are all defense why do their offensive players get picked every year in the 1st round of the draft?

ummm..........Because NFL is an offensive driven league now.
 

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They just changed the OT rules last year to make it more fair, but a TD on the opening drive of OT still wins the game and it's not like that in college.

Still would rather have that than the crap that is college football
 

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ummm..........Because NFL is an offensive driven league now.

I am done with this. You can go like your college football. Let us then talk NFL on the NFL board and you go join the college board
 
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