Tarvaris Jackson cut

[HaroldSeattle]

I wondering would he better backup then Quinn? I'm thinking he would be, but...would it really matter? I mean if the Seahawks have to their backup, would it really matter if it was Quinn or Jackson?

Looking forward to opinions on this matter!

 

[Upstater]

I hope he enjoyed yet another job that he didn't get an opportunity to prove himself.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Your right! Maybe karma will go his way next time.

 

[blstoker]

I wondering would he better backup then Quinn? I'm thinking he would be, but...would it really matter? I mean if the Seahawks have to their backup, would it really matter if it was Quinn or Jackson?

Looking forward to opinions on this matter!

Oh, he would be loads better than Quinn. At least we know for a fact that Jackson can hold his own (win about half his games). He isn't a bad QB, just not someone that will take over a game and win it most of the time. Quinn on the other hand, is a horrible QB. I'm not sure I wouldn't want JaMarcus Russell instead of Brady Quinn.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Bite your tongue! Quinn is bad but come on man!

 

[HaroldSeattle]

At the end my question is will it or would it matter who the backup is? Now I'm not going as far as JaMarcus Russell but if we end up going to our back up, things are going to look dark,very dark!

If posters disagree, do they think the Seahawks should pick up TJ and drop Quinn? I got blstoker voting for picking up TJ. Anyone else with a opinion?

 

[WizardHawk]

TJ WAY WAY WAY WAY over Quinn.

TJ was bad? How about that line he had? How about the chumps he was throwing to? Now I'm not going to say Tjack is a viable starter, but he is miles ahead of Quinn as a BU.

Quick, what was Quinns BEST year? He has more Ints than TD's and his best campaign he had under a 70 rating. His ceiling is WAY below TJ.

On the other hand TJ can run the exact same offense as Wilson. Of course he can't run it as well, but he is mobile and can execute those plays while Quinn just can't move from the pocket.

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When one of the WR's he would be throwing to is actually saying it would be good to bring him back what does that say?

Seahawks would have a much better chance of winning with TJ in than Quinn and I think that's a huge understatement.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Watching Tarvaris Jackson as a starting QB was terribly painful for me. The Seahawks lost 5 games within 1 touchdown in his 1 year as Seahawks starter.

That being said, give or take a few starters the Seahawks roster is somewhat similar to what Tarvaris Jackson had in 2011, and he went 7-9. You can't expect a ton out of a backup QB and Tarvaris Jackson is a low end starter but a real solid 2nd stringer. I would take him over Brady Quinn any day, although I don't see why not just carry both.

 

[blstoker]

I know that there are many who wouldn't agree, but I thought that Jackson had a good season for Seattle a couple years ago, and he did that with a torn peck. I actually didn't want Flynn, cause I honestly thought that QB wasn't the biggest need we had, I really thought we had one of the worst receiver corps in the NFL. The young guys have gotten better, but when Jackson was the QB they couldn't get open consistently to save their lives.There are very few QBs that I wouldn't take over Quinn, but I think Jackson is a great fit with a lot of actual experience, and that will be a deciding factor if the Hawks need to go to their BU.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I know that there are many who wouldn't agree, but I thought that Jackson had a good season for Seattle a couple years ago, and he did that with a torn peck. I actually didn't want Flynn, cause I honestly thought that QB wasn't the biggest need we had, I really thought we had one of the worst receiver corps in the NFL. The young guys have gotten better, but when Jackson was the QB they couldn't get open consistently to save their lives.There are very few QBs that I wouldn't take over Quinn, but I think Jackson is a great fit with a lot of actual experience, and that will be a deciding factor if the Hawks need to go to their BU.

Dude could hardly throw the ball past the line of scrimmage. I know you and Kage defended him but I honestly could not stand watching him play football. I thought he was the difference in 2011 from 7-9 and a 10 win season. You obviously can't win all the close games but if the QB play was even a little better the Seahawks could have slipped in the playoffs that year.

As for the WR corps, it was basically the same guys that Russell Wilson had. I think it's interesting that after Russell Wilson bought Golden Tate + Sidney Rice more time to get open (because lord knows they were not getting separation quickly), suddenly everyone defends the two of them. I think that in Jackson's year of QBing it was a combination of mediocrity on Jackson's part + inability to get open by the recievers.

If the Seahawks didn't have the season they did, with the way Rice performed I could imagine people calling him a bust because he didn't get much seperation last season.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

For those of you who thought TJ was bad you must of lost your minds when Charlie (fucking) Whitehurst actually started a game. I know I did!

 

[WizardHawk]

Dude could hardly throw the ball past the line of scrimmage. I know you and Kage defended him but I honestly could not stand watching him play football. I thought he was the difference in 2011 from 7-9 and a 10 win season. You obviously can't win all the close games but if the QB play was even a little better the Seahawks could have slipped in the playoffs that year.

As for the WR corps, it was basically the same guys that Russell Wilson had. I think it's interesting that after Russell Wilson bought Golden Tate + Sidney Rice more time to get open (because lord knows they were not getting separation quickly), suddenly everyone defends the two of them. I think that in Jackson's year of QBing it was a combination of mediocrity on Jackson's part + inability to get open by the recievers.

If the Seahawks didn't have the season they did, with the way Rice performed I could imagine people calling him a bust because he didn't get much seperation last season.

Morning kickoff ? Can Tate pick up where he left off with Harvin aboard? | Seahawks Blog | Seattle Times

Tate says the light may simply have finally gone on for him the second half of the season.

“A lot of people say the third year is kind of when it clicks, I guess, and I guess it just clicked my third year,” he said.

You can't compare what Tjack had on the field to what Wilson had even if many were the same players. Not only did some key positions change, but having the line come together and having the lights FINALLY go on for Tate makes it much different.

No one would suggest Tjack would make a good starting QB, but given he can run the same playbook he is more than a viable backup.

 

[C.Adl.C.Hox.Fan]

I hope I am not killing the conversation here guys, but I need to add my cop-out here.

The Coaching Staff (yes, I will capitalize reverently) must have some knowledge/plan/idea that is not apparent to we laymen or experts alike, as has been their modus operandi. I need to believe that Quinn got something that gels and pushes him to the front of the line of prospects.

Anyone who has put a team/band/committee together knows that with personalities come abilities and liabilities, proverbially you get both the content and the baggage that it came in. Perhaps Wilson & Quinn work together so seamlessly that they need less attention/management from the Coaching Staff (caps).

 

[WizardHawk]

I hope I am not killing the conversation here guys, but I need to add my cop-out here.

The Coaching Staff (yes, I will capitalize reverently) must have some knowledge/plan/idea that is not apparent to we laymen or experts alike, as has been their modus operandi. I need to believe that Quinn got something that gels and pushes him to the front of the line of prospects.

Anyone who has put a team/band/committee together knows that with personalities come abilities and liabilities, proverbially you get both the content and the baggage that it came in. Perhaps Wilson & Quinn work together so seamlessly that they need less attention/management from the Coaching Staff (caps).

Actually they talk about why Quinn is there all the time on KJR. Even from interviews with insiders Quinn is a 'film room guy' and is said to be a great asset in breaking down film and plays. Seems he knows his stuff, but still can't complete a throw to save his ass. Which do you want? a QB that might be able to help Wilson with film? Or a QB that might be able to score if Wilson goes down?

 

[C.Adl.C.Hox.Fan]

...Quinn is a 'film room guy' and is said to be a great asset in breaking down film and plays...
...Which do you want? a QB that might be able to help Wilson with film? Or a QB that might be able to score if Wilson goes down?

Offer him a coaching job, re-allocate his roster spot.

Double Doubleya

 

[blstoker]

Dude could hardly throw the ball past the line of scrimmage. I know you and Kage defended him but I honestly could not stand watching him play football. I thought he was the difference in 2011 from 7-9 and a 10 win season. You obviously can't win all the close games but if the QB play was even a little better the Seahawks could have slipped in the playoffs that year.

As for the WR corps, it was basically the same guys that Russell Wilson had. I think it's interesting that after Russell Wilson bought Golden Tate + Sidney Rice more time to get open (because lord knows they were not getting separation quickly), suddenly everyone defends the two of them. I think that in Jackson's year of QBing it was a combination of mediocrity on Jackson's part + inability to get open by the recievers.

If the Seahawks didn't have the season they did, with the way Rice performed I could imagine people calling him a bust because he didn't get much seperation last season.

First, you keep saying 7-9 for Jackson, he was 7-7 actually, Whitehurst lost twice including what should have been a gimme against the Browns.

Second, I don't remember Jackson being all that horrible throwing the ball deep. As I remember it, he was middle of the road for starting QB's for efficiency when throwing 20+. Not to mention, he did have the torn peck for over half the season. Imagine how much worse the team would have been with Whitehurst starting another 9 games.

Third, Jackson may not have been able to win on the late game drives, but really, the team was in nearly every game. After week 2, the Seahawks had a chance to win every game Jackson started.

Fourth, the main difference between 2012 and 2011 was Wilson's poise. His ability to not panic under pressure and find the open guy after the D broke down is the biggest difference between Jackson and Wilson. The receivers weren't that much better (except maybe Tate was actually running the routes he was supposed to). The line really wasn't much better either, Wilson was just able to avoid the sack better.

Jackson was a top 20 starting QB in 2011. That's not elite, but if the Hawks need someone to come in for Wilson, he is a guy that I would be extremely confident won't cost the team the game. When it all comes down to it, isn't that exactly what you want out of a back up QB?

 

[gowazzu02]

TJAcks proven to be a average starting qb.

thats all you can ask for from your backup. win as many as you lose.

 

[blade]

Oh, he would be loads better than Quinn. At least we know for a fact that Jackson can hold his own (win about half his games). He isn't a bad QB, just not someone that will take over a game and win it most of the time. Quinn on the other hand, is a horrible QB. I'm not sure I wouldn't want JaMarcus Russell instead of Brady Quinn.

I'd take The Plague over Brady Quinn any day. Any day. Notre Dame is kind of like the New York Yankees. Everything that comes through their system tends to be over-rated in terms of potential. Of course there are exceptions (Joe Montana, Jerome Bettis) but generally speaking Norte Dame players can easily summarized: the hype exceeds the ability.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[dredinis21]

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To me, SEA is trying to make sure it has a viable insurance policy in the event that the QB gets hurt and chooses a backup with mobility and some starting experience to run the offense. I don't see how it would hurt to sign TJ. He's average...if he comes at a good price, you just scored a very quality backup.