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2025 NBA Draft Talk

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Haven’t done this in awhile cause I’m trying to get privileges restored on the politics forum but yet again…the usual suspects are always low hanging fruit.

I’m moving on with my day. I just wanted you all to remember who the puppet master is.
 

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Not at all. The man who dismisses r*pe victims because of sports fandom is the man who has gone off the deep end.
Hello? Seems those responsible for indicting were the ones who dismissed the allegations. Not me. Never mind said if he did it he should be put away as long as is allowed.

seriously trying way too hard here, and just adding more lies, Tommy. Maybe it's time to just own how foolish your comments, theories, etc have been instead of all the goal post moving and lying?
 

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Haven’t done this in awhile cause I’m trying to get privileges restored on the politics forum but yet again…the usual suspects are always low hanging fruit.

I’m moving on with my day. I just wanted you all to remember who the puppet master is.
oh, the irony.
 

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You’re saying that the lottery is secure. I’m saying that the NBA’s process isn’t transparent. I’m saying that a league that has the NBA’s track record shouldn’t be granted the benefit of the doubt with a process that lacks transparency. You’re the one making the definitive claim that you know beyond the shadow of a doubt it isn’t rigged. It makes you angry that people question a lack of transparency. You’re the guy in need of the evidence based on your own stated standard.

lol

And I have stated that the league needs to go back to just using team with the worst record going first because of the perceived lack of transparency...although the process used that @wildturkey mentioned (and you clearly haven't read yet) would tend to show that there is some level of transparency...at least as far as all teams knowing the process and being involved in it.

And lol @the guy who has been angrily posting about his team getting slapped for it's on stupidity calling others angry. I think this deserves both an "oh, the irony" and a "ya gotta love this forum". @dtgold88 can I get a ruling?
 

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That’s why I haven’t said definitely the lottery is rigged.

You’re clearly angry. You stopped making sense many posts ago.

You’re saying that the lottery is secure. I’m saying that the NBA’s process isn’t transparent. I’m saying that a league that has the NBA’s track record shouldn’t be granted the benefit of the doubt with a process that lacks transparency. You’re the one making the definitive claim that you know beyond the shadow of a doubt it isn’t rigged. It makes you angry that people question a lack of transparency. You’re the guy in need of the evidence based on your own stated standard.
Your whole NBA track record thing is one incident that two refs colluded to make money. The NBA caught it, disciplined them, and ended it. This does not extend to the League level and actually looks good that they caught them. Were there phone calls logged to higher ups to check in which would implicate a corrupt league? No. So I really don't understand where you get the league-wide corruption point you keep making.
 

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Your whole NBA track record thing is one incident that two refs colluded to make money. The NBA caught it, disciplined them, and ended it. This does not extend to the League level and actually looks good that they caught them. Were there phone calls logged to higher ups to check in which would implicate a corrupt league? No. So I really don't understand where you get the league-wide corruption point you keep making.
I’ve been having fun with this but one point, the league did not sniff anything out with the referee thing. They got drug into it grudgingly and then they acted interested before proceeding to bury everything they found out was known. So no the nba did not have anything in place to monitor what was happening, much less catch anyone.
 

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I’ve been having fun with this but one point, the league did not sniff anything out with the referee thing. They got drug into it grudgingly and then they acted interested before proceeding to bury everything they found out was known. So no the nba did not have anything in place to monitor what was happening, much less catch anyone.

Pretty sure they do now. But even at that, it would be extremely difficult to catch anyway if folks are smart enough to keep it "off the grid" so to speak. In most cases, leagues, companies, etc. tend to be reactive rather than proactive with these kinds of things.

Most of the time, folks get caught because they get lazy and careless or someone stumbles across something that looks odd or suspicious...not because of some measure they had in place.
 

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lol

And I have stated that the league needs to go back to just using team with the worst record going first because of the perceived lack of transparency...although the process used that @wildturkey mentioned (and you clearly haven't read yet) would tend to show that there is some level of transparency...at least as far as all teams knowing the process and being involved in it.

And lol @the guy who has been angrily posting about his team getting slapped for it's on stupidity calling others angry. I think this deserves both an "oh, the irony" and a "ya gotta love this forum". @dtgold88 can I get a ruling?
It's usually one or the other but no reason can't use both.
 

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Pretty sure they do now. But even at that, it would be extremely difficult to catch anyway if folks are smart enough to keep it "off the grid" so to speak. In most cases, leagues, companies, etc. tend to be reactive rather than proactive with these kinds of things.

Most of the time, folks get caught because they get lazy and careless or someone stumbles across something that looks odd or suspicious...not because of some measure they had in place.
I would be willing to bet the league made huge changes in how they operate as a result of that debacle. Even being a recreational gambler a bunch of things come to mind for me. It would be interesting to know how far in advance the officials know their schedules now compared with back then.
 

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I’ve been having fun with this but one point, the league did not sniff anything out with the referee thing. They got drug into it grudgingly and then they acted interested before proceeding to bury everything they found out was known. So no the nba did not have anything in place to monitor what was happening, much less catch anyone.
Okay sure. But the main point is that it came far from showing that there whole organizational corruption, which is the 'evidence' that the whole conspiracy theory is based upon.
 

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Does anybody have any good draft info sites, or a place that has good mock drafts? I see so many mock drafts that just throw guys on teams based on prospect ranking regardless of team fit.
Pistons only have the #37 pick, so not as exciting as in past years (thankfully). But I've seen many (the majority) of mocks where they have them drafting a wing, which may be the spot they need the least having drafted 3 at #5 in the last 3 drafts.
 

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Okay sure. But the main point is that it came far from showing that there whole organizational corruption, which is the 'evidence' that the whole conspiracy theory is based upon.
Oh I think it just shows that the league is willing to protect its brand at all costs. Not finishing out the referee scandal properly shows they may be capable of even more. All of this just shows the nba needs to put itself above all of this and they could with some changes. The question is do they really want to?
 

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Was it rigged when the Hawks went 36-46 (10th in the EC) and got the top pick and selected Sarr in the 2024 draft?

I don't remember people saying it was rigged then....
 

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Was it rigged when the Hawks went 36-46 (10th in the EC) and got the top pick and selected Sarr in the 2024 draft?

I don't remember people saying it was rigged then....
That's because they didn't take Sarr :pound:

And you weren't on Pistons boards after getting #5 three times in a row. Lots of foil hats bad at math.
 

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Are you serious with this? I think you just overturned a shit ton of case law.

No I did not. An employer would only be liable if the employee did something as part of their stated responsibilities. Rigging games is pretty clearly a violation of the code of conduct of the refs.

No my argument is my argument. Attack the argument instead of your analogy.

You aren't making an argument. You are making an assertion and ignoring any inconvenient details.

They had hundreds of pieces of evidence of short phone calls that took place between Donaghy and Foster on the days of games that came up in the record as games Donaghy rigged.

Clearly not enough evidence to prosecuted Foster.
 
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