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This issue has been going on for years. Said it many years ago and know several people have said the same. Watson’s stats in Houston are misleading, most are late in game when opposing team was in prevent D.
Hope the Browns can get out of that ridiculous contract.

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Yes. Battered women will often go back time and time again to their abuser.

It’s immaterial to me. I don’t exist to shame sexual assault victims because the criminal plays QB for my football team.
To your first comment.....sure, though far more often they don't and those who do likely knew the accuser unlike in this situation.

To your second comment cool, neither do I.
 

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This issue has been going on for years. Said it many years ago and know several people have said the same. Watson’s stats in Houston are misleading, most are late in game when opposing team was in prevent D.
Hope the Browns can get out of that ridiculous contract.
I'd say this was true of his 2020 stats as was a lot of games with empty stats like Cousins is known for in futile comeback attempts. what about the other seasons?
 

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To your first comment.....sure, though far more often they don't and those who do likely knew the accuser unlike in this situation.
All you asked for is a situation. But before we go there, you have no right to offer any judgment on how people respond to being assaulted.
To your second comment cool, neither do I.
That’s exactly what you’re doing. You’ve called them gold diggers or some other phrase to imply that they’re liars chasing a pay day. You can’t even argue this one.
 

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All you asked for is a situation. But before we go there, you have no right to offer any judgment on how people respond to being assaulted.

That’s exactly what you’re doing. You’ve called them gold diggers or some other phrase to imply that they’re liars chasing a pay day. You can’t even argue this one.
I have a right to offer an opinion just like you are doing assuming they are telling the truth even though their stories don't add up.

I do think they are money grabbers because said story does not add up to them being sexual assault victims. Hookers/massage therapists asked for a happy ending? sure.
 

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I have a right to offer an opinion just like you are doing assuming they are telling the truth even though their stories don't add up.
Let me rephrase. You do have a right to offer an opinion. I meant to say your opinion has no value because you weren’t the victim of the crime.
I do think they are money grabbers because said story does not add up to them being sexual assault victims.
Then don’t say that you aren’t shaming them. That’s exactly what you’re doing. If you don’t want to be seen as shaming them then quite frankly don’t shame them.
Hookers/massage therapists asked for a happy ending? sure.
Those are two different professions in many cases. The assumption made by a famous athlete that all masseuses owe a customer a happy ending is why this is even a thing.


How is this going for you?

You’ve spent days coming to the defense of a horrible person. He doesn’t know you and wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. Does it feel good to white knight for him just because he’s the Browns QB? Well…when he’s not hurt or suspended he’s the Browns QB.
 

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Good to see people are getting along. :heh:

On a side note. Watson is a scumbag.
 

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Let me rephrase. You do have a right to offer an opinion. I meant to say your opinion has no value because you weren’t the victim of the crime.

Then don’t say that you aren’t shaming them. That’s exactly what you’re doing. If you don’t want to be seen as shaming them then quite frankly don’t shame them.

Those are two different professions in many cases. The assumption made by a famous athlete that all masseuses owe a customer a happy ending is why this is even a thing.


How is this going for you?

You’ve spent days coming to the defense of a horrible person. He doesn’t know you and wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. Does it feel good to white knight for him just because he’s the Browns QB? Well…when he’s not hurt or suspended he’s the Browns QB.
I'll go in order of your irrational....

1) as of now there was no crime. But by your "logic" this would mean your opinion has no value since you didn't commit a crime.

2) I am not shaming someone I believe to have been assaulted (which was what you said I did) as I believe they were not assaulted.

3) we have no evidence he felt owed a happy ending. Hell, we don't even have evidence he asked for one. But if he did they were free to say no and just leave. Certainly if so put off by it should not have called to see him again.

4) Going for me? Fine, I guess...not hard to refute your irrational as usual, Tommy.

5) It's a conversation and I feel the same now as I did before he became a Brown. do you think the money grabbers would piss on you for defending them...or maybe will give you a slice? How do you feel defending people who likely had nothing done to them who make it that much harder for real victims?
 

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They’re just coming after him because he’s a brown qb. Am I doing it right liberals?
 

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I'll go in order of your irrational....

1) as of now there was no crime. But by your "logic" this would mean your opinion has no value since you didn't commit a crime.
Yes there has. This is the substance of his pay out and it’s the reason behind the suspension. He wasn’t charged with or convicted of a crime. You just want to play semantics. You think a crime wasn’t committed? You’re a homer.
2) I am not shaming someone I believe to have been assaulted (which was what you said I did) as I believe they were not assaulted.
Yes. Yes you are. You’re completely delusional. You’ve implied they’re out for money. You’ve implied they’re liars with your words. You’re absolutely shaming them. You have daughters and a wife. You should be ashamed of yourself. What you believe happened to them doesn’t matter. This is your way of saying you think they’re liars while also trying to claim you aren’t shaming victims of sexual assault. This all driven by the fact that Watson is a Brown. That’s the saddest aspect of this.
3) we have no evidence he felt owed a happy ending. Hell, we don't even have evidence he asked for one. But if he did they were free to say no and just leave. Certainly if so put off by it should not have called to see him again.
So I have every right to ask your wife or daughter to jerk me off and all they have to say is no thanks, we move on and everything is cool. I’m sure that’s the case.
4) Going for me? Fine, I guess...not hard to refute your irrational as usual, Tommy.
Yes. How is this going for you? You’re putting all of this on display for others. Are you proud of the fact that you’re shaming these women?
5) It's a conversation and I feel the same now as I did before he became a Brown. do you think the money grabbers would piss on you for defending them...or maybe will give you a slice? How do you feel defending people who likely had nothing done to them who make it that much harder for real victims?
I know I can look my daughter and my wife in the eye because I’m not going to defend a bad person over sports. Oh wow! You’re not shaming them. You’re just concerned with them making it harder for real victims. That’s dog whistle for people who are r*pe apologists. You’re a sad and pathetic man.

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Yes there has. This is the substance of his pay out and it’s the reason behind the suspension. He wasn’t charged with or convicted of a crime. You just want to play semantics. You think a crime wasn’t committed? You’re a homer.

Yes. Yes you are. You’re completely delusional. You’ve implied they’re out for money. You’ve implied they’re liars with your words. You’re absolutely shaming them. You have daughters and a wife. You should be ashamed of yourself. What you believe happened to them doesn’t matter. This is your way of saying you think they’re liars while also trying to claim you aren’t shaming victims of sexual assault. This all driven by the fact that Watson is a Brown. That’s the saddest aspect of this.

So I have every right to ask your wife or daughter to jerk me off and all they have to say is no thanks, we move on and everything is cool. I’m sure that’s the case.

Yes. How is this going for you? You’re putting all of this on display for others. Are you proud of the fact that you’re shaming these women?

I know I can look my daughter and my wife in the eye because I’m not going to defend a bad person over sports. Oh wow! You’re not shaming them. You’re just concerned with them making it harder for real victims. That’s dog whistle for people who are r*pe apologists. You’re a sad and pathetic man.

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1) I do realize not being charged with a crime does not mean one was not committed, but it also does not mean one was committed....and based on what we know seems more likely one was not committed. You've spun out of control so I stopped there, Emoji Boy.
 
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1) I do realize not being charged with a crime does not mean one was not committed, but it also does not mean one was committed....and based on what we know seems more likely one was not committed. You've spun out of control so I stopped there.
You didn’t stop. You read it. You should be embarrassed as a husband and a father defending this man.
 

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You didn’t stop. You read it. You should be embarrassed as a husband and a father defending this man.
sorry I did stop. No need to go much further than that though I guess could have missed more irrational, emotional comedy by you.

as a husband and father I'm confident my wife and daughter both know that if in an uncomfortable position from which they can easily walk away to walk away.....and by all means if they think they were attacked do not call back the attacker to see him again. Hope the people you care about in your life know the same.
 

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sorry I did stop. No need to go much further than that though I guess could have missed more irrational, emotional comedy by you.

as a husband and father I'm confident my wife and daughter both know that if in an uncomfortable position from which they can easily walk away to walk away.....and by all means if they think they were attacked do not call back the attacker to see him again. Hope the people you care about in your life know the same.
I hope they don’t know that you’re here defending people who sexually assault women and then blaming the victims themselves.
 

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I hope they don’t know that you’re here defending people who sexually assault women and then blaming the victims themselves.
He is accused of assaulting women and so far the people who mattered to put him on trial don't think there is enough evidence to warrant an indictment. Is funny you think you are taking the moral high ground by wishing we did not have a constitution or at least changing it to guilty until proven innocent.

as to the fam. one of them knows as we have talked about it. she also wonders why wouldn't they leave and even more curious as to why they'd want to see the attacker again. Annoys her a little, too, as she does know people who really were attacked, Tommy.
 

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He is accused of assaulting women and so far the people who mattered to put him on trial don't think there is enough evidence to warrant an indictment.
And that’s the story of sexual assault prosecutions in America. It’s all He Said She Said. Or in the case He Said and 23 She Saids
Is funny you think you are taking the moral high ground by wishing we did not have a constitution or at least changing it to guilty until proven innocent.
I said no such thing. Stop creating straw men to deflect from the fact that you’re spending days defending a bad person.
as to the fam. one of them knows as we have talked about it. she also wonders why wouldn't they leave and even more curious as to why they'd want to see the attacker again. Annoys her a little, too, as she does know people who really were attacked, Tommy.
So you’re teaching your kids to defend bad people. Oh that’s very different.
 

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No you didn’t. You think 23 women made it up?
Considering most of the lawsuits filed were just copy pasta from the first one with women who worked with Watson multiple times.
In short, yes I'm not that gullible and can read pass headlines
 
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