The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[DJ]

I am on today.

@tlance agreed with a post!!!

 

[thunderc]

Watch more Lakers games and you will understand where Wild Turkey I are coming from.

Changing the starting lineups as often as he does and the subbing patterns are a sign of a desperate coach and somebody in desperation mode. Players are sounding off and it's just a matter of time until he loses the locker room......

I get it, but I watch every Thunder game and trust me that was the Thunders worst effort of the year. Ham didn’t necessarily do anything a bit different. At this point in the season a teams record is what they are, maybe a new coach can change that but I don’t see it. They are asking a lot of 2 guys at this point, superstars yes but still it’s a big ask.

 

[DJ]

Also hopped up on the caffeine......

PPM's are wild, LOL.

 

[tlance]

I guess he is trying to figure out how to get guys to play more consistently. Just saying when you have a record like the Lakers do that means it’s not necessarily in your control every night, sometimes the other team gives you one and sometimes you give one away. If Im a Laker fan I’m questioning the roster more than anything. How in the hell can a guy like Reaves be untouchable when he appears to have already hit a ceiling? If they could get a Terry Rozier by dealing him they should do it and quick before the team changes their mind,

It is not a hard concept. Yet so many coaches at so many levels screw it up royally.

When players know what is expected of them and they have a consistent role, they will play more consistently.

Everybody knows injuries will change rotation patterns. And sometimes that bench group is on a heater and you roll with them a little longer.

But failing to have consistent rotations and subbing patterns actually causes players to perform more erratically.

And it is common sense.

 

[DJ]

I get it, but I watch every Thunder game and trust me that was the Thunders worst effort of the year. Ham didn’t necessarily do anything a bit different. At this point in the season a teams record is what they are, maybe a new coach can change that but I don’t see it. They are asking a lot of 2 guys at this point, superstars yes but still it’s a big ask.

The Lakers played really good defense in that game vs a younger team.

 

[DJ]

It is not a hard concept. Yet so many coaches at so many levels screw it up royally.

When players know what is expected of them and they have a consistent role, they will play more consistently.

Everybody knows injuries will change rotation patterns. And sometimes that bench group is on a heater and you roll with them a little longer.

But failing to have consistent rotations and subbing patterns actually causes players to perform more erratically.

And it is common sense.

Annd he was better at it last season, not much, but a little better.

Especially, after the trade deadline......which led to the postseason run.

 

[DJ]

I would give up more for Murray than I would Rozier as well.

Not sure if I include Reaves for Rozier.

 

[thunderc]

The Lakers played really good defense in that game vs a younger team.

Like I said the Thunder played a very lazy game on both ends. But yes, the last 2 games between the teams the Lakers were on losing streaks and desperate so they played hard. I just happen to think Lebron and Davis likely affect effort night end and night out more than any coach can.

 

[thunderc]

I would give up more for Murray than I would Rozier as well.

Not sure if I include Reaves for Rozier.

That’s insane to me, Rozier is exactly what they need. That guy won’t take a single minute off.

 

[DJ]

It is not a hard concept. Yet so many coaches at so many levels screw it up royally.

When players know what is expected of them and they have a consistent role, they will play more consistently.

Everybody knows injuries will change rotation patterns. And sometimes that bench group is on a heater and you roll with them a little longer.

But failing to have consistent rotations and subbing patterns actually causes players to perform more erratically.

And it is common sense.

Since you missed it.

@thunderc

 

[DJ]

That’s insane to me, Rozier is exactly what they need. That guy won’t take a single minute off.

Rozier is a player I like and advocated for last season when they were shopping him......Reaves is younger cheaper, and has a higher upside IMO though.

If Charlotte included Bridges I would do it in heartbeat. Reaves, Russell, the '29 1st rounder, '30 1st round pick swap for Rozier and Bridges.

And pray we can bring back Bridges in the offseason.

 

[tlance]

Annd he was better at it last season, not much, but a little better.

Especially, after the trade deadline......which led to the postseason run.

It is really easy to make impulsive decisions as a coach.

But impulsive decisions are really tough to sell to the players impacted by them.

And it is a lot easier to brush away when the team is winning at a high rate.

Underachieving team + impulsive coach = divided locker room

Just doesn’t work.

 

[thunderc]

Since you missed it.

@thunderc

Didn’t miss anything, solid points. Doesn’t mean they beat a better team that is having a good night even if the ghost of Red Auerbach is coaching. Your statement about beating OKC but losing last night was overly simplistic, that’s what I’m respectfully saying.

 

[DJ]

It is really easy to make impulsive decisions as a coach.

But impulsive decisions are really tough to sell to the players impacted by them.

And it is a lot easier to brush away when the team is winning at a high rate.

Underachieving team + impulsive coach = divided locker room

Just doesn’t work.

Preach.

Thunder is the one who isn't comprehending.

 

[thunderc]

Rozier is a player I like and advocated for last season when they were shopping him......Reaves is younger cheaper, and has a higher upside IMO though.

If Charlotte included Bridges I would do it in heartbeat. Reaves, Russell, the '29 1st rounder, '30 1st round pick swap for Rozier and Bridges.

And pray we can bring back Bridges in the offseason.

I disageee on the upside, big time, interested in what others think. Reaves is just bad on the defensive end.

 

[thunderc]

Preach.

Thunder is the one who isn't comprehending.

I fully comprehend, not much I don’t. Tlance and I are both correct in this instance,

 

[fightinfunbags]

Tatum shot the Celtics out of the game last night. Porzingas was 6-9 for 19 points in the first half and took 2 shots the rest of the game.

If the Celtics have weaknesses:
1. Tatum’s desire to play hero ball shooting them out of games
2. Joe Mazzulla.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

@logic

the more I go down the rabbit hole with Detroit lineups it's painfully obvious they gotta decide on keeping either Stew or Thompson. Granted Thompson is a rook but he only seems to work as a small 4 on the offensive end.

I'd also deal Bojan and Burks yesterday and reconfigure the bench altogether because they get smoked every single game.

A less stubborn coach would always have either Stew or Duren on the floor 42 out of 48 minutes but alas we have Monty in tank mode.

I say the above because most of the prospects in the draft would be more of the same. Gotta deal Ausar or Stew and get back shooting.

 

[DJ]

I disageee on the upside, big time, interested in what others think. Reaves is just bad on the defensive end.

Rozier is almost 30. Reaves is 25. Reaves and Melo would be able to grow together in the backcourt.

Not a stretch to say he has a higher upside when Rozier has hit his ceiling. And Reaves would be able to see more offensive growth in Charlotte out of Bron's and AD's shadows.

 

[The Q]

This would be a bad return for ATL

I’d guess The extra seconds are to flip Russell for expiring contract(s)