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The 2023-2024 NBA Season

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Gotta do something to gain their attention after getting abused all night per usual.
It’s a smart play. I don’t know why people hate on embellishing a call and making the whistle obvious and needed. He baited a lane violation too but officials fucked it up.
 

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What am I giving up for Brown? Because if its D'lo, this hurts the Lakers because they have no PG. Lebron can't do it all. Brown would be nice to have, but the Lakers need to have a PG on the roster too, whether that's D'Lo or somehow get Schroder back from Toronto in the Brown deal

Yeah, it's a tough call on D-Lo because that slump or whatever it was he went through seems to be over, so he's getting to where he could actually almost be considered an asset in a trade. But, as you point out, they'd be without a PG. They'd have to be able to keep Reaves too.

If they did give up D-Lo for Brown, they could be ok, imo. Lebron seems to trust Reaves, so they can split the PG duties...but they would absolutely have to get Vincent back and he'd have play like he did for the Heat.
 

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SI dissolving after being sold..

So much good content lost in those TD's.

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this is one situation where going woke caused them to go broke

they undoubtedly lost subscribers with their approach on the swimsuit issue
 

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Yeah, it's a tough call on D-Lo because that slump or whatever it was he went through seems to be over, so he's getting to where he could actually almost be considered an asset in a trade. But, as you point out, they'd be without a PG. They'd have to be able to keep Reaves too.

If they did give up D-Lo for Brown, they could be ok, imo. Lebron seems to trust Reaves, so they can split the PG duties...but they would absolutely have to get Vincent back and he'd have play like he did for the Heat.

As someone who has seen Brown up close I just don't see how he's an upgrade over D Lo. He's great defensively. He's basic on O.

losing that PG hurts.

Murray or bust if I'm LA and I do everything I can to keep Reaves.
 

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yea...if you guys gave up Reaves AND D Lo for Brown that would be a horrendous trade.
 

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As someone who has seen Brown up close I just don't see how he's an upgrade over D Lo. He's great defensively. He's basic on O.

losing that PG hurts.

Murray or bust if I'm LA and I do everything I can to keep Reaves.

True. D-Lo and Brown are opposites. D-Lo is good offensively, but ranges from sieve to decent on defense.

Of the guys that it looks like they could actually get, Murray is the only one I'd give up Reaves for.
 

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True. D-Lo and Brown are opposites. D-Lo is good offensively, but ranges from sieve to decent on defense.

Of the guys that it looks they could actually get, Murray is the only one I'd give up Reaves for.

if they give up Reaves they need to find a shooter in the dumpster bin. Having Murray allows you to have him headline lineups without LBJ but still feels like you need more.

I guess getting Vincent back would be big but he was pretty bad before injury.
 

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This trashass team is gonna lose to the trashass Nets. Never gonna gain any kind of ground this way
 

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I mean, you have to give up one of those mid level salaries to get a good return.

Vandy doesn’t make enough.

So, unless you juke someone into taking Vincent, that’s Reaves, Rui or DLo.

The discussion is kinda mute anyway. Because of the new CBA rules, there's a rule where since Brown had already been traded this year, he can't be in any more trades with multiple people. You can trade for just him, but he can't be in a package (ie Brown and Schroder). So its not worth it trading D'lo knowing you can't get a PG back. Now maybe you could make the deal as Reaves/Vincent for Brown (the only other money combo that works), but I wouldn't do that either. It's not like Brown is some all world defensive talent.
 

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Beat down by a Nets team that had lost like 9 out their last 10. But that's what happens your defensive game plan intentionally leaves people wide ass open to shoot 3s and you just decide to stop running any kind of actual offense in the 2nd half. Darvin Ham, ladies and gentlemen!
 

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Beat down by a Nets team that had lost like 9 out their last 10. But that's what happens your defensive game plan intentionally leaves people wide ass open to shoot 3s and you just decide to stop running any kind of actual offense in the 2nd half. Darvin Ham, ladies and gentlemen!
Every win, great team. Every loss, coach's fault
 

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Every win, great team. Every loss, coach's fault

Find where I've said this is a great team. Darvin Ham has been trash all year and really his entire tenure. His game plans are terrible on both sides of the ball. His game management is atrocious. The Lakers win games because Lebron and AD have to play their asses off. Like All NBA 1st team level. If they can't do that on a given night, they lose.
 

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Like this is the shit I'm talking about. Happens all the fucking time. They literally stop running an offense. That is 100% a coaching problem

 

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Find where I've said this is a great team. Darvin Ham has been trash all year and really his entire tenure. His game plans are terrible on both sides of the ball. His game management is atrocious. The Lakers win games because Lebron and AD have to play their asses off. Like All NBA 1st team level. If they can't do that on a given night, they lose.

I don’t think it is fair to go that far.

But as I said before, I just don’t see how he adds any value to a veteran team.

Does not make any sense for the Lakers to wait for him to “grow into the role”. They don’t have time for that.

And coaches are easily replaceable unless you are top tier. And highly unlikely Ham ever becomes that.
 

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I don’t think it is fair to go that far.

But as I said before, I just don’t see how he adds any value to a veteran team.

Does not make any sense for the Lakers to wait for him to “grow into the role”. They don’t have time for that.

And coaches are easily replaceable unless you are top tier. And highly unlikely Ham ever becomes that.

he doesn't. And he's very stubborn to boot which makes it worse.

I went to bed so I didn't see second half but DLo was cooking in the first quarter and then......

how do you not continue to exploit that? it looks like he got maybe 5 more shots the rest of the game

the players play but I also think a guy like Russell is shaken confidence wise and needs more script to run off.

I hated this hire from day one. If I'm LA I want an experienced coach with a track record.
 
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