Pete out as HC!!!

[jerseyhawksfan79]

The shit USC was doing then is just common open practice now with NIL. And every big program was doing the same thing back then too.

If they vacated USC, they should vacate Michigan's as well. Gotta be fair and equitable, NCAA.

They should also add additional punishment to Michigan for being lame douchebags.

Reggie Bush was driving cool cars and getting with hot ladies.

JJ McCarthy does yoga, needs therapy at halftime, and gets with shirtless Harbaugh at slumber parties.

The sign stealing I find more egregious that Reggie Bush taking money. Not saying Reggie was right in doing it at that time but flying people around the country stealing signs to me is unethical.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Every team steals signs. They have people on the sidelines who do exactly that for every game.

They could fix this problem easily by doing what the NFL does and have mics in the QB and defensive captain's helmets. But they don't because they are fine with sign stealing.

Up until 1993 it wasn't even a violation to go other team's games and steal signs. They outlawed it because they thought it helped the big schools too much.

At home yes, we all know sign stealing happens.
Since it was banned in 93, than that's a huge violation of flying people around the county stealing scheduled opponents signs.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

The sign stealing I find more egregious that Reggie Bush taking money. Not saying Reggie was right in doing it at that time but flying people around the country stealing signs to me is unethical.

This is why I think they need to give the title to Vanderbilt. They weren't doing any of that. So pure.

 

[flyerhawk]

At home yes, we all know sign stealing happens.
Since it was banned in 93, than that's a huge violation of flying people around the county stealing scheduled opponents signs.

Well good luck with treating this like the Reggie Bush/OJ Mayo stuff.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

This is why I think they need to give the title to Vanderbilt. They weren't doing any of that. So pure.

I was going with Marshall but Vandy will do.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Well good luck with treating this like the Reggie Bush/OJ Mayo stuff.

You act like sign stealing is fine.

 

[flyerhawk]

You act like sign stealing is fine.

You already said it was fine. Just only at the level all the other teams did it.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

You already said it was fine. Just only at the level all the other teams did it.

I said at home games cause that's common knowledge both teams are trying to one up each other. Flying people across the country is unethical.

 

[flyerhawk]

I said at home games cause that's common knowledge both teams are trying to one up each other. Flying people across the country is unethical.

So it's not the cheating that is unethical. It's the flying. Gotcha.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

So it's not the cheating that is unethical. It's the flying. Gotcha.

Dude this is quite simple to figure out unless you're just trying to be an asshole to argue for fun.

 

[flyerhawk]

Dude this is quite simple to figure out unless you're just trying to be an asshole to argue for fun.

You are arguing that because some guy, apparently on his own, went to other team's games and recorded their signs, you think that the entire Michigan fanbase and players should be punished. Absolutely NO ONE is suggesting that except for fans of rival teams.

If you think that those stolen signs were the reason why Michigan stomped Bowling Green or Rutgers or UNLV well that's on you.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

You are arguing that because some guy, apparently on his own, went to other team's games and recorded their signs, you think that the entire Michigan fanbase and players should be punished. Absolutely NO ONE is suggesting that except for fans of rival teams.

If you think that those stolen signs were the reason why Michigan stomped Bowling Green or Rutgers or UNLV well that's on you.

If you think he went on his own or others on their own, you're a total idiot. Of course Harb's would deny it cause they got caught.

So you put out 3 cupcakes that Michigan's 3rd and 4th stringers could beat up on. Try harder.

 

[flyerhawk]

If you think he went on his own or others on their own, you're a total idiot. Of course Harb's would deny it cause they got caught.

So you put out 3 cupcakes that Michigan's 3rd and 4th stringers could beat up on. Try harder.

Which games do you think that the sign stealing had an impact. Here is the schedule..

Michigan Wolverines 2023 Regular Season NCAAF Schedule - ESPN

ESPN has the full 2023 Michigan Wolverines Regular Season NCAAF schedule. Includes game times, TV listings and ticket information for all Wolverines games.

www.espn.com

Connor Stallions resigned on November 3rd.

I have no idea if Harbaugh did or did not know. So far there is no evidence he knew. Maybe some will come out. If it does then that means he should be punished, not the team.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Which games do you think that the sign stealing had an impact. Here is the schedule..

Michigan Wolverines 2023 Regular Season NCAAF Schedule - ESPN

ESPN has the full 2023 Michigan Wolverines Regular Season NCAAF schedule. Includes game times, TV listings and ticket information for all Wolverines games.

www.espn.com

Connor Stallions resigned on November 3rd.

I have no idea if Harbaugh did or did not know. So far there is no evidence he knew. Maybe some will come out. If it does then that means he should be punished, not the team.

Stealing dates back to 2021

Reggie Bush was one guy but the entire team was eventually punished.

 

[flyerhawk]

Stealing dates back to 2021

Reggie Bush was one guy but the entire team was eventually punished.

Actually it was 2 guys. Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Actually it was 2 guys. Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo.

I forgot about him. Point still stands the entire team still got punished.

 

[flyerhawk]

I forgot about him. Point still stands the entire team still got punished.

They got punished because it was across multiple sports.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

You are arguing that because some guy, apparently on his own, went to other team's games and recorded their signs, you think that the entire Michigan fanbase and players should be punished. Absolutely NO ONE is suggesting that except for fans of rival teams.

If you think that those stolen signs were the reason why Michigan stomped Bowling Green or Rutgers or UNLV well that's on you.

So if one guys helps a team cheat to win, then the wins should still count because only one guy knew they were cheating. Even though everybody still was cheating.

And also it doesn't matter if you cheat if you definitely totally were going to win anyway.

That is an interesting perspective.

 

[flyerhawk]

So if one guys helps a team cheat to win, then the wins should still count because only one guy knew they were cheating. Even though everybody still was cheating.

And also it doesn't matter if you cheat if you definitely totally were going to win anyway.

That is an interesting perspective.

Maybe they should give Michigan the death penalty and end the program for all of the horrible things they've done.

 

[DJ]

Da Quinn the next HC.