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Dlo lame for this imo

Can't cry about players trash talking because that's a part of the game. Not like Brown is a player like Giannis brother who never plays
eh it was more of just talking back imo. i think further in the conversation he says something about not having Jokic next to him now.
 

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The unemployed woman speaks

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Who is unemployed?

She works for the Spurs. Know your shit if you gonna talk it.
 

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It's a mystery to me why he doesn't take his conditioning more seriously.

Like I just said to logic he's so talented. And when on the court usually exciting to watch.

Not that they would but I wouldn't want the Celtics to trade for him.

Actually I think any team out there willing to trade for him should fire their GM. The Pels will rightfully want a lot in return for him. But right now he's not worth it.

Yes and no.

Always depends on the price.

He isn’t worth some team giving a ton of assets as if he were a true franchise player.

But at some price the upside is worth the risk. Players can change, especially if they get around the right locker room leaders.

Would have to be the right situation and it would have to be as a 2 or 3.
 

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As a coach you can’t sweat stuff like that, part of the game.

Yep.

Talking about 20 seconds here. That is one possession.

Can’t knock the coach for that.
 

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An all too frequently overlooked aspect about MJ: The Bulls very seldom made trades while he was on the team. He won w/ what he had and no excuses…

Let’s not sit here and pretend that Pippen and Phil Jackson were known commodities before they came to the Bulls.

Dude.

Pippen was the number 5 pick in the draft. The Bulls also had the #10 pick that season.

Krause deserves a lot of credit for building that core. Cavs weren’t picking in the top 10 3 years into LeBron’s career.

But also, it isn’t a fair comparison.

There were 23 teams in the league that year. 16 out of 23 made the playoffs! There was no such thing as max contracts and players literally did not have the same opportunities that todays players do in terms of agency and movement.

You ask players from that era, and if they are being honest they will tell you they are jealous of the power that todays players have.
 

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Sacramento made the playoffs last year. Did the Pacers make the playoffs last year?

Making the playoffs isn’t the end goal. More than half the league makes the playoffs.

Did Sacramento improve by trading for Sabonis?

Clearly yes.

But I said it then, I will say it now.

Indiana dominated that trade. Haliburton is a franchise player. And he is young.

You can’t trade young players with superstar upside for vets who aren’t superstars.

Better to swing for the fences and miss than to lock yourself in as a perennial 2nd tier playoff team.
 

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It ain't gonna work every time, no shit.

The Lakers brought in LeBron. That worked out great.

The Bucks traded for Jrue Holiday. That worked out great.

It isn’t that simple.

You can’t just go “get a great player”.

The pieces Indiana would have to give to get a guy at that level wouldn’t allow them to contend anyway.

Best to wait and try to add later.
 
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