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Mingo
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I don't think Frye is going to cut it. Keep looking.
I agree. That being said, with how pitiful our red zone offense was last year I hope we get a viable guy and not just a journeyman. it would help to get a guy with a decent legMcManus at 77 percent wasn't worth 4 million a year, especially with the new kick off rules. He was going to be the 8th highest paid kicker on a team ranked 25th-ish in fgm%.
Add that he wouldn't take a pay cut, so there you have it.
He also had a 92 percent XP conversion percentage last year.
Veteran minimum journeyman can kick 77%.
Agree. I can see the thinking that a journeyman is ok if all he does is kick extra points and pop flies inside the 25 that prevents a return.I agree. That being said, with how pitiful our red zone offense was last year I hope we get a viable guy and not just a journeyman. it would help to get a guy with a decent leg
Get outta here with facts!McManus at 77 percent wasn't worth 4 million a year, especially with the new kick off rules. He was going to be the 8th highest paid kicker on a team ranked 25th-ish in fgm%.
Add that he wouldn't take a pay cut, so there you have it.
He also had a 92 percent XP conversion percentage last year.
Veteran minimum journeyman can kick 77%.
There's no better kicker than a guy making 4 million to kick 77%, or even 83% the previous year? Top kickers (like he's being paid to be) are in the high 80's low 90's.Were the broncos over the cap and needed to make room? It is odd to cut your only kicker at this point in the offseason. If you aren't happy with his production, then bring in extra kickers in the offseason to create a competition. One in the hand is worth two in the bush. As I stated in another thread, there was some thought that the Broncos could cut bait on Russ this year but would also have to cut some other veterans to get that cap number down, and the overpriced kicker is always the first to go in that scenario.
If you have the cap for McManus, then keep him because there is no better replacement out there. This move therefore can only hurt the team and cost wins. Is Denver hoping for a better draft pick?
Is your argument that you aren't getting enough value from your kicker? Would it be better to save $3 million and get a kicker that makes only 70% of his fg attempts because that is better "bang for your buck"? There was no corresponding move to this release that added value to the team that I know of.There's no better kicker than a guy making 4 million to kick 77%, or even 83% the previous year? Top kickers (like he's being paid to be) are in the high 80's low 90's.
Not hating on him, loved the guy. But come on.
It was most likely the pay cut refusal that forced it more than anything.
The fact that its a post June designated cut shows it was mostly for cap space. The value is in having 10 million to sign someone we might need due to depth or injury issues before the season starts.Is your argument that you aren't getting enough value from your kicker? Would it be better to save $3 million and get a kicker that makes only 70% of his fg attempts because that is better "bang for your buck"? There was no corresponding move to this release that added value to the team that I know of.
The "value" is then unrealized until you sign someone. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until you find someone of value to add to your roster and then cut McManus?The fact that its a post June designated cut shows it was mostly for cap space. The value is in having 10 million to sign someone we might need due to depth or injury issues before the season starts.
Obviously my point was not just a cost saving analysis, lets not get silly.
I don't think Frye is going to cut it. Keep looking.
Yup. Who knows, maybe in the interim Elliott will kick better than 77% for us.IMO Frye is a place holder more than place kicker - good kickers can be found during training camps and that's what I expect will happen for the Broncos.
Were the broncos over the cap and needed to make room? It is odd to cut your only kicker at this point in the offseason. If you aren't happy with his production, then bring in extra kickers in the offseason to create a competition. One in the hand is worth two in the bush. As I stated in another thread, there was some thought that the Broncos could cut bait on Russ this year but would also have to cut some other veterans to get that cap number down, and the overpriced kicker is always the first to go in that scenario.
If you have the cap for McManus, then keep him because there is no better replacement out there. This move therefore can only hurt the team and cost wins. Is Denver hoping for a better draft pick?
I hope notI still don't think our week 1 kicker is on our roster yet. Just saying.