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Jokic isn’t even top 5. Sorry. When you’re the focal point of what the scouting report is going to exploit defensively you’re not the best player in the league. You’re the best player in the league when we let algorithms and math nerds like Nate Silver tell us what to think.
About 1/3 of MVPs went to players that were not super great at defense.
 

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Can you tell us WHY they "hate him"?
No idea. My own theory is on the way he acted on social media when he first came into the league. It rubbed them the wrong way or something. It’s mind boggling. He’s an entertaining follow on top of being a great player. He’s someone the league should be embracing and selling. Instead, he gets criticized because he doesn’t pass like Magic Johnson. Dude is a two way player leading the team with the 4th best record in the league with a top 5 offensive and defensive rating since they got healthy. It is what it is. They’re never giving dude an MVP.
 

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No idea. My own theory is on the way he acted on social media when he first came into the league. It rubbed them the wrong way or something. It’s mind boggling. He’s an entertaining follow on top of being a great player. He’s someone the league should be embracing and selling. Instead, he gets criticized because he doesn’t pass like Magic Johnson. Dude is a two way player leading the team with the 4th best record in the league with a top 5 offensive and defensive rating since they got healthy. It is what it is. They’re never giving dude an MVP.
At least you'll have something to keep crying about :noidea:
 
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No idea. My own theory is on the way he acted on social media when he first came into the league. It rubbed them the wrong way or something. It’s mind boggling. He’s an entertaining follow on top of being a great player. He’s someone the league should be embracing and selling. Instead, he gets criticized because he doesn’t pass like Magic Johnson. Dude is a two way player leading the team with the 4th best record in the league with a top 5 offensive and defensive rating since they got healthy. It is what it is. They’re never giving dude an MVP.

He's one of those types of players you absolutely hate, unless he's on your team.

Pat Bev was the same for me. Still not a huge fan but his actions don't bother me as much as they used to do on another team.
 

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Congrats on your team emasculating my 49ers. I thought they could compete but as it turns out, I don’t know dick about football. Good luck in the Super Bowl.
Thanks man.
 

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He's one of those types of players you absolutely hate, unless he's on your team.

Pat Bev was the same for me. Still not a huge fan but his actions don't bother me as much as they used to do on another team.
Also known as Bill Laimbeer-ish players....Rodman, Barkley, Draymond, Beverly, Embiid, etc

For the record I don't even sports hate those guys they are all fun players
 

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Thanks man, I was wondering how much longer I could hide being a crying bitch from the board. Now I can just let it all hang out.
Oh we're doing this now? Surrender accepted.
 

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Saying he isn’t top 5 is crazy talk though.

Jokic is definitely top 5.
Giannis
Durant
Embiid
Tatum
Curry (I know he doesn’t play defense just like Jokic but dude has rings and is arguably the greatest shooter all time and is still doing it)
 
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Also known as Bill Laimbeer-ish players....Rodman, Barkley, Draymond, Beverly, Embiid, etc

For the record I don't even sports hate those guys they are all fun players

Oh Rodman definitely. With him, I didn't even like him when he played a few games with the Lakers
 

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Nope. You can argue one for Jokic. Two in a row? More MVPS than Shaq and Kobe? For a 6 seed? Nope.
I'm not saying Jokic or Nash or Harden or whoever deserved their MVPs. I'm saying there are reasons why those players win and it's not because they hate Embiid.
 

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Giannis
Durant
Embiid
Tatum
Curry (I know he doesn’t play defense just like Jokic but dude has rings and is arguably the greatest shooter all time and is still doing it)
Wow you're just losing your shit now. Both Curry and Jokic play decent defense now. They aren't shitty turnstiles like Harden.

And plenty would take Jokic over Durant or Tatum or Curry, or Embiid for that matter. They are all players you can win a title with.
 
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