Sam Howell is starting vs Dallas official

[deanpet21]

I beg to differ , wince was the reason we lost

sure he didn't do us any favors. Defense gave up 21 points int the 2nd half. Forced no turnovers. Even if they benched CW in the 2nd half the defense couldn't stop them.

 

[Breed]

i think the choice to sit SH was a good one . falco put up a 5-3-1 record and he certainly would have done better vs cleveland .then what wince did . SH had a good 1st start and part of that can be attributed to sitting and learning

that doesnt mean i think RR is the answer . he is horrible at clock mgt , is too loyal and accepting of mediocre play , he doesnt know who to keep and who should walk , and in game adjustments are scarce . if we had a new owner he would be gone

but we are stuck with him so hopefully he pulls his head out of his ass during FA , and continues to draft well (he has hit on a few)

No it wasn't. Not starting Howell when Wentz got hurt might end up at or near the top of the list of endless RR mistakes. Howell could've learned maybe even moreso playing as he did sitting.

 

[skinsdad62]

No it wasn't. Not starting Howell when Wentz got hurt might end up at or near the top of the list of endless RR mistakes. Howell could've learned maybe even moreso playing as he did sitting.

I tend to agree with Sty here when saying let a rookie qb sit and learn for the yr save injuries

 

[Breed]

I tend to agree with Sty here when saying let a rookie qb sit and learn for the yr save injuries

Sounds like some shit RR would say/think. That was the conventional wisdom at one time. Times have changed.

 

[skinsdad62]

Sounds like some shit RR would say/think. That was the conventional wisdom at one time. Times have changed.

Mahomes did

 

[Breed]

Mahomes did

Yeah, I didn't say the tactic went the way of the dodo bird. It isn't obsolete, but................Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Mac Jones, Robert Griffin, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson. all day 1 starters

 

[gkekoa]

sure he didn't do us any favors. Defense gave up 21 points int the 2nd half. Forced no turnovers. Even if they benched CW in the 2nd half the defense couldn't stop them.

The defense wouldn’t have given up on other QBs. You still don’t seem to get it.

 

[deanpet21]

The defense wouldn’t have given up on other QBs. You still don’t seem to get it.

thats nonsense.

 

[gkekoa]

thats nonsense.

So what you are claiming is the exact same thing happens on defense and the offense and offensive players have ZERO effect on the defense?

You don’t believe moral affects the performance of players?

You don’t believe attitude affects the performance of players?

 

[deanpet21]

So what you are claiming is the exact same thing happens on defense and the offense and offensive players have ZERO effect on the defense?

You don’t believe moral affects the performance of players?

You don’t believe attitude affects the performance of players?

The defense did not tank with a 7-3 halftime lead in a game you need to make the playoffs. Just b/c CW was playing. No way I believe that.

 

[gkekoa]

The defense did not tank with a 7-3 halftime lead in a game you need to make the playoffs. Just b/c CW was playing. No way I believe that.

You don’t seem to understand the words I use. Nobody claims tanking. I never said tanking. Moral and attitude is not tanking. Why do you think the defense played so well for literally everybody else, other than Carson Wentz? Do you find it coincidental?

Again, do you think it affects the defense differently when one QB throws a pick but not another?

 

[deanpet21]

You don’t seem to understand the words I use. Nobody claims tanking. I never said tanking. Moral and attitude is not tanking. Why do you think the defense played so well for literally everybody else, other than Carson Wentz? Do you find it coincidental?

Again, do you think it affects the defense differently when one QB throws a pick but not another?

you are implying that the defense didn't give a shit in the 2nd half b/c of CW. The moral and attitude was fine.

 

[gkekoa]

you are implying that the defense didn't give a shit in the 2nd half b/c of CW. The moral and attitude was fine.

I am not implying they didn’t give a shit. I am stating the moral and attitudes are affected by a poor QB with poor leadership that does not inspire energy and faith of their teammates.

You state the defense played poorly in the second half…why did they play poorly?

 

[deanpet21]

I am not implying they didn’t give a shit. I am stating the moral and attitudes are affected by a poor QB with poor leadership that does not inspire energy and faith of their teammates.

You state the defense played poorly in the second half…why did they play poorly?

they played poorly b/c they got beat by Cle offense. they didnt step up when we needed them too

 

[kbso83432]

Where Walter had Howell in their final pre-draft mock.

 

[gkekoa]

they played poorly b/c they got beat by Cle offense. they didnt step up when we needed them too

So the Cleveland offense miraculously got better? You don’t think it had anything to do with an excessively poor QBing performance that demoralized the team and took the air out of any and all momentum they garnered in the first?

 

[deanpet21]

So the Cleveland offense miraculously got better? You don’t think it had anything to do with an excessively poor QBing performance that demoralized the team and took the air out of any and all momentum they garnered in the first?

. They ran the ball better and Watson was completing 3rd downs. yes, gk offense can get better in the 2nd half. They had scoring drives of 84 and 65 yards that led to Td's. Yes the offense did nothing but the defense couldn't stop them.

 

[gkekoa]

. They ran the ball better and Watson was completing 3rd downs. yes, gk offense can get better in the 2nd half. They had scoring drives of 84 and 65 yards that led to Td's. Yes the offense did nothing but the defense couldn't stop them.

I don’t think you have ever played a sport in your life.

 

[deanpet21]

I don’t think you have ever played a sport in your life.

you're trying to say the defense gave up b/c of CW. Just admit it. Plus, i dont think you have any idea in playing a playoff game to save your season.

 

[skinsdad62]

Throwing 3 picks and keeping the defense on the field longer combined with the 3-outs does have an effect on the defense.