Deshaun Watson would consider D.C.

[wilwhite]

Really? aren't you assuming a lot in this response? Beyond the money, (that's a given, in order to have the expansion) consider these perspectives among others...

1. Isn't it likely that there are people in other places who enjoy American football and as such are already emulating their players in manner and style?
2. You must believe that other places are talentless and it will take 20 years to get up to speed.

3. Money and how attractive it would be in luring already established veteran QBs to play where the money is best.

4. The NFL draft, expansion clubs would instantly be eligible to draft QBs out of schools here, so it's conceivable that one or more of these new teams would get lucky or be in the right drafting position to get their guy.

I am curious though... why do you believe that it will take 20 years?

Well, we're talking about "an increased number of high-level QBs due to that increase in participating number of countries."

So it's not QBs from schools here, because those QBs are already available. So we'd be looking at these new countries, which have no system in place like our college football for developing players. So they'd have to set that up (and get the investment to set that up), in places where the current NFL viewership is completely dwarfed by soccer, basketball, even cycling and tennis.

The quickest path is to get a lot more kids from those countries excited about the NFL so they apply to colleges here, but even with putting a team in other countries, the competition for kids attention in sports is fierce, and the foundation for American football is almost non-existent. Germany, which is kind of a hotbed, has 45,000 amateur players. We have 100 times that many here.

 

[Stymietee]

Well, we're talking about "an increased number of high-level QBs due to that increase in participating number of countries."

So it's not QBs from schools here, because those QBs are already available. So we'd be looking at these new countries, which have no system in place like our college football for developing players. So they'd have to set that up (and get the investment to set that up), in places where the current NFL viewership is completely dwarfed by soccer, basketball, even cycling and tennis.

The quickest path is to get a lot more kids from those countries excited about the NFL so they apply to colleges here, but even with putting a team in other countries, the competition for kids attention in sports is fierce, and the foundation for American football is almost non-existent. Germany, which is kind of a hotbed, has 45,000 amateur players. We have 100 times that many here.

Your premise is sound, conclusion, ???

Let's say that the NFL expands next week, starting QBs for these teams would have to come from somewhere correct? Where?
I suggest they come from the already available number of free agents or the draft. What happens with that expansion is the creation of more jobs. More job openings mean a need to fill them immediately. The pool from which these employees are best trained is in the U.S. Importing them would answer your assertion that it will take 20 years because the immediate, and mid-term need is filled. Beyond that, it would maximally take 4 or fewer years to get home-grown QB training by having new college enrollees from these places do so at U.S. schools where football is played. Talent isn't simply a U.S. thing, it can and has been found around the globe.

 

[wilwhite]

Your premise is sound, conclusion, ???

Let's say that the NFL expands next week, starting QBs for these teams would have to come from somewhere correct? Where?
I suggest they come from the already available number of free agents or the draft. What happens with that expansion is the creation of more jobs. More job openings mean a need to fill them immediately. The pool from which these employees are best trained is in the U.S. Importing them would answer your assertion that it will take 20 years because the immediate, and mid-term need is filled. Beyond that, it would maximally take 4 or fewer years to get home-grown QB training by having new college enrollees from these places do so at U.S. schools where football is played. Talent isn't simply a U.S. thing, it can and has been found around the globe.

If we want to increase the pool of top QBs by 50%, we need to increase the talent pool in our colleges by about 50%.

There are a million high school football players in the U.S., so we'd have to have another 500,000 from other countries competing with them for college spots. Right now there are almost none.

In baseball, in 1905, Japan was where Europe is for football now, and it wasn't until about 30 years later that they had their own professional baseball league, and another 60 before a Japanese player had any kind of impact on MLB.

 

[Stymietee]

If we want to increase the pool of top QBs by 50%, we need to increase the talent pool in our colleges by about 50%.

There are a million high school football players in the U.S., so we'd have to have another 500,000 from other countries competing with them for college spots. Right now there are almost none.

In baseball, in 1905, Japan was where Europe is for football now, and it wasn't until about 30 years later that they had their own professional baseball league, and another 60 before a Japanese player had any kind of impact on MLB.

First, you wouldn't have that issue in Canada or any of the suggested U.S.-listed expansion cities comprising most of the list. In as much as Europe's 3 or so listed places are concerned.

The talent pool is already in place at the high school level and all the colleges would have to do is to continue doing what they currently are in as much as recruiting is concerned. For colleges the operating word is competition, does it really matter where that competition comes from as long as the talent is there?

You don't have to increase the pool of top NFL QBs by 50%, there are 32 NFL teams with a minimum of 32 backups right now, some of these guys will become starters on expansion teams. Others who are cut will get a second perhaps third chance to play and become backups. Now I'm not saying that you're getting superstars, but the pool is available right now.

Finally, there's Spain, England, and Germany on that suggested list. It failed but professional football has already been introduced in these places, do you really think that the interest has completely gone away? Here's where I'll agree with you..it will take time to grow them in a homegrown manner, but filling the time gap with actual players between now and that point won't be an issue.

For references here are links to the two attempts at U.S.-style football in Europe.

World League of American Football | American Football …​

World League of American Football

The World League of American Football (WLAF) was founded in 1990 with support from the National Football League to play professional American football in North America, Europe and later possibly Asia. This came after the NFL had played popular American Bowls in London's Wembley Stadium and...

americanfootball.fandom.com

NFL Europe - Wikipedia​

NFL Europe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.bing.com/search?q=NFL+E...57j0l8.2655j0j1&pglt=171&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531#
https://www.bing.com/search?q=World...j69i64.4118j0j1&pglt=427&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531#

 

[wilwhite]

You don't have to increase the pool of top NFL QBs by 50%, there are 32 NFL teams with a minimum of 32 backups right now, some of these guys will become starters on expansion teams. Others who are cut will get a second perhaps third chance to play and become backups. Now I'm not saying that you're getting superstars, but the pool is available right now.

The problem they were trying to solve is the lack of really good QBs, without which it's virtually impossible to win in today's game, so the supply/demand is skewed.

Having backup QBs turn into starters on expansion teams isn't really the answer to your question: "wouldn't there also be an increased number of high-level QBs due to that increase in participating number of countries?"

 

[Stymietee]

The problem they were trying to solve is the lack of really good QBs, without which it's virtually impossible to win in today's game, so the supply/demand is skewed.

Having backup QBs turn into starters on expansion teams isn't really the answer.

Again, the "problem" is something that they are bereft of right now!! That isn't going to change with the expansion proposed. It is NOT a problem that the NFL is remotely trying to solve, individual teams are, not the league.

We all know that every team doesn't have a "really good QB" starting for them in today's NFL, why would this change with expansion? The only thing that changes with an expansion of, let's say 4 new franchises, is the number of wins and losses all teams will have.

 

[skinsdad62]

The hits just keep coming

 

[Breed]

The hits just keep coming

Damn. Though it does pose somewhat of an interesting question. Just what was the massuse doing when Watson was chokin the chicken and putting a helmet on that soldier........allegedly.

 

[j_y19]

Damn. Though it does pose somewhat of an interesting question. Just what was the massuse doing when Watson was chokin the chicken and putting a helmet on that soldier........allegedly.

This is crazy. Everyone knows when that thing goes off, no one knows where it’s gonna end up.

 

[Stymietee]

This is crazy. Everyone knows when that thing goes off, no one knows where it’s gonna end up.

The hits just keep coming

Damn. Though it does pose somewhat of an interesting question. Just what was the massuse doing when Watson was chokin the chicken and putting a helmet on that soldier........allegedly.

Second Texas grand jury declines to charge Deshaun Watson for alleged sexual misconduct
The Browns quarterback is still facing 22 civil lawsuits alleging assault or misconduct.
CBS Sports on MSN.com · 4h

 

[Breed]

Man, they are gonna try n break Watson financially. Does he have any protection on his money, property, belongings? Even reaching a settlement taking care of all possible litigation would be a boatload of cash I imagine.

Question:

Did RR or anyone who could possibly be in the know say something about having no interest in Watson? I've read a lot of speculation n about what people think just about everything. People trying to spin the Wince trade as prudent or smart. T00rading Terry Mac, which may not be a bad idea if Washington continues to operate with its head up its ass

 

[skinz2winz]

YES!!
It didn't matter in Pittsburgh, it didn't matter in Baltimore nor did it matter in a number of places. Why here?

Apparently it doesn't matter anywhere. 6 games for accosting 24-26 women of whom he had to pay off in order for them to go away quietly. The NFL and the Browns should be ashamed of themselves. My guess is the Browns will lose a significant amount of their fan base and many, many women will no longer support the NFL because of this decision. The decision demonstrates rich athletes are privileged and can demonstrate outwardly any behavior they want towards women because, they are entitled in today's NFL.

Definitely a sad day for the NFL and precedent now set for any future punishment rulings regardless of their detriment to others.

 

[DJ]

Apparently it doesn't matter anywhere. 6 games for accosting 24-26 women of whom he had to pay off in order for them to go away quietly. The NFL and the Browns should be ashamed of themselves. My guess is the Browns will lose a significant amount of their fan base and many, many women will no longer support the NFL because of this decision. The decision demonstrates rich athletes are privileged and can demonstrate outwardly any behavior they want towards women because, they are entitled in today's NFL.

Definitely a sad day for the NFL and precedent now set for any future punishment rulings regardless of their detriment to others.

Goodell will add games...

 

[skinz2winz]

The hits just keep coming

Just a reminder, these allegations were all made up, right? What a sick fuk!

 

[skinz2winz]

Goodell will add games...

No way he will over rule a former judge. He has zero balls!

 

[DJ]

No way he will over rule a former judge. He has zero balls!

The backlash is going to be more than what he wants to face.

I think he makes it 8-10.

 

[skinz2winz]

The backlash is going to be more than what he wants to face.

I think he makes it 8-10.

Hopefully you are correct on the backlash. Should be no less than 1 calendar season or indefinite.

 

[DJ]

Hopefully you are correct on the backlash. Should be no less than 1 calendar season or indefinite.

I know gambling is serious in sports.....but damn really?

Give Ridley a full 17 games and Watson just a third of that with 6? For something arguably more serious?

 

[Wamu]

If this was already mentioned my bad. Don't feel like reading back through comments.

In the past the league has made some questionable suspension decisions. Sue Robinson was hired to take care of these matters.

It's gonna be a bad look for the league to go against the recommendation of the person they hired to settle stuff like this.

I'm surprised it's only six games. Seems like it should have been longer considering the outta court settlements.

The league's in a no win situation. Whatever they do it's gonna piss some people off.

 

[skinz2winz]

If this was already mentioned my bad. Don't feel like reading back through comments.

In the past the league has made some questionable suspension decisions. Sue Robinson was hired to take care of these matters.

It's gonna be a bad look for the league to go against the recommendation of the person they hired to settle stuff like this.

I'm surprised it's only six games. Seems like it should have been longer considering the outta court settlements.

The league's in a no win situation. Whatever they do it's gonna piss some people off.

Just unbelievable today that this is where we are at. They guy actually fornicated on the table during one of his massages. The league is basically turning a blind eye to his 24-26 unethical meetings with these women he acted inappropriate with. The Texans however, supplied the means necessary to do so. (Hotel room and NDA) Dude is a serious predator! Wonder how accepting Browns fans (especially women) will be?