Why Justin Tucker fell off--he's the next Deshaun Watson

[Darrell Green Fan]

Plenty of assault victims have waited quire some time before coming forward or opted not to come forward at all.

Particularly if the abuser is in a position of power n privilege and n has significant cash flow. Tucker checks all those boxes.

And as always seems to be the case. Sone ass0s us going blame the fenake. Or call her a liar.

It's simply astonishing that this still needs to be explained to some people.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Not sure I'm understanding your issue here. I only know what's been reported (the facts, not the guesses) about Watson. Haven't heard as much about Tucker......but weren't they free to walk out the door if not comfortable in what was going on?

In the Watson case some were so uncomfortable they texted Watson to see him again.Any do that with Tucker, too,.

I am not trying the case of D Watson here. If you would like to defend his actions or believe all these victims are lying well that would be a choice. The rest of the football world who does not wear Browns gear sees him for what he is.

As for Tucker he's the same piece of shit. And the Ravens knew about this for years and despite crowing about a zero tollerance policy when discussing Watson they burried the story. Then in their statement they heaped praise on poor Justin Tucker as if he is the victim. Lost a lot of respect for an organization I had mad respect for.

 

[Albuquerque Rams]

Plenty of assault victims have waited quire some time before coming forward or opted not to come forward at all.

Particularly if the abuser is in a position of power n privilege and n has significant cash flow. Tucker checks all those boxes.

And as always seems to be the case. Sone ass0s us going blame the fenake. Or call her a liar.

On the other hand, a famous and wealthy person is also likely to be accused years later because doing so will grant 15 minutes of fame or because they just want a pay day. I'm sure Harvey Weinstein probably isn't a good person but all those women willingly degraded themselves then tried to claim victim status years later because they're embarrassed. Worse yet, even in cases where the accuser is flat out proven to be a liar -such as in the cases of Trevor Bauer, Matt Araiza or the Duke lacrosse team- millions of braindead lemmings will still believe them because #BelieveAllWomen.

That's why I don't have much to say when it comes to allegations against famous people made years after the alleged facts.

 

[Albuquerque Rams]

And as always seems to be the case. Sone ass0s us going blame the fenake. Or call her a liar.

Why does it make someone an asshole to disbelieve a particular accuser or even call her a liar, especially when no hard evidence has been presented? I could just as easily say you're an asshole for automatically assuming the accused is guilty when no real evidence has been shown.

 

[dtgold88]

I am not trying the case of D Watson here. If you would like to defend his actions or believe all these victims are lying well that would be a choice. The rest of the football world who does not wear Browns gear sees him for what he is.

As for Tucker he's the same piece of shit. And the Ravens knew about this for years and despite crowing about a zero tollerance policy when discussing Watson they burried the story. Then in their statement they heaped praise on poor Justin Tucker as if he is the victim. Lost a lot of respect for an organization I had mad respect for.

Take a breath and heed your own advice and maybe look at this without an agenda, sport. I'm legit asking about the Tucker case and if it's similar to the Watson ordeal.

You get we 100% know some of the women lied in the Watson case? we also know that not only was he not convicted of anything criminally there was not even enough there to indict (likely the lying women did not help the cause).

I can agree the Ravens knew about this and covered up whatever Tucker did.

 

[dtgold88]

This reminds me.

never argue with an idiot, they will beat you down with experience.

oh, the irony.

Though I'd make it irrational with an agenda. As even facts will be ignored.

 

[dtgold88]

Plenty of assault victims have waited quire some time before coming forward or opted not to come forward at all.

Particularly if the abuser is in a position of power n privilege and n has significant cash flow. Tucker checks all those boxes.

And as always seems to be the case. Sone ass0s us going blame the fenake. Or call her a liar.

Admittedly have not read many details about the Tucker case but the fact is many of the females in the Watson case were liars. Duke Lacrosse case even worse.

No worse to assume they could not lie than to assume they must be liars.

 

[dtgold88]

Why does it make someone an asshole to disbelieve a particular accuser or even call her a liar, especially when no hard evidence has been presented? I could just as easily say you're an asshole for automatically assuming the accused is guilty when no real evidence has been shown.

Yep....and in the Watson ordeal we know some women lied. Does it mean they all did? Nope.....but those who lied probably make it hard to believe others.

 

[dtgold88]

It's simply astonishing that this still needs to be explained to some people.

Astonishing is some know some of the victims have lied but still assume he's guilty.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Astonishing is some know some of the victims have lied but still assume he's guilty.

I see you like to stick up for sexual predators in multiple threads. See my response in the Watson discussion, you obviously don't know a fucking thing about the professon of message therapy.

 

[dtgold88]

I see you like to stick up for sexual predators in multiple threads. See my response in the Watson discussion, you obviously don't know a fucking thing about the professon of message therapy.

Try not to move the goal posts here if you don't mind. do you really think every young woman who is paid for a massage is the "massage therapist" you are describing?

Before you answer this, can you at some point address we know multiple "victims" lied?

How long did you accuse the Duke Lacrosse players of being guilty......and can you finally acknowledge their accusers lied?

also, no, does not mean all women (or men) lie about being abused or even raped. But some do. And, yes, a little suspec in this case knowing multiple women lied.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Try not to move the goal posts here if you don't mind. do you really think every young woman who is paid for a massage is the "massage therapist" you are describing?

Before you answer this, can you at some point address we know multiple "victims" lied?

How long did you accuse the Duke Lacrosse players of being guilty......and can you finally acknowledge their accusers lied?

also, no, does not mean all women (or men) lie about being abused or even raped. But some do. And, yes, a little suspec in this case knowing multiple women lied.

I agree some do lie. And we both agree some of these woman lied. So you can stop with the "they called him again" card which appears to be your only tool in the toolbox. But we both agree many were telling the truth so that should be the focus.

Get it through your head: A message therapist is a THERAPIST who has training to treat patients. These are the establishments both players were frequenting and later banned from. A whore in a message parlor is just that, a whore in a message parlor. Again learn the difference and stop posting like an ignorant asshole who is blaming the victims.

 

[dtgold88]

I agree some do lie. And we both agree some of these woman lied. So you can stop with the "they called him again" card which appears to be your only tool in the toolbox. But we both agree many were telling the truth so that should be the focus.

Get it through your head: A message therapist is a THERAPIST who has training to treat patients. These are the establishments both players were frequenting and later banned from. A whore in a message parlor is just that, a whore in a message parlor. Again learn the difference and stop posting like an ignorant asshole who is blaming the victims.

Problem is when multiple women (most?) we know lied it's hard to take the other seriously. And, no, we don't both agree many were telling the truth. Especially not the ones who cried r*pe. When they were all free to walk out the door if they wanted? Come on.

do you really believe Watson was sold on the idea his visit would be about therapy? If you do it's hard to take you seriously as well....but your Yoesmite Sam-like name calling meltdowns are funny.

 

[Breed]

On the other hand, a famous and wealthy person is also likely to be accused years later because doing so will grant 15 minutes of fame or because they just want a pay day. I'm sure Harvey Weinstein probably isn't a good person but all those women willingly degraded themselves then tried to claim victim status years later because they're embarrassed. Worse yet, even in cases where the accuser is flat out proven to be a liar -such as in the cases of Trevor Bauer, Matt Araiza or the Duke lacrosse team- millions of braindead lemmings will still believe them because #BelieveAllWomen.

That's why I don't have much to say when it comes to allegations against famous people made years after the alleged facts.

Yeah, I don't recall Arazia, n the Duke boys came out alright far as I know, but Bauer got royally fucked

I wasn't advocating to believe every woman every time just cuz. But the Weinstien, Puff Daddy, Epstien n R Kelly cases all are textbook examples of females not coming forward immediately.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah, I don't recall Arazia, n the Duke boys came out alright far as I know, but Bauer got royally fucked

I wasn't advocating to believe every woman every time just cuz. But the Weinstien, Puff Daddy, Epstien n R Kelly cases all are textbook examples of females not coming forward immediately.

Definitely fair comments and not coming forward right away does not automatically mean nothing happened. Cannot really speak on the Tucker case as just not have read too much about the details to form a reasonable opinion.

 

[Breed]

Why does it make someone an asshole to disbelieve a particular accuser or even call her a liar, especially when no hard evidence has been presented? I could just as easily say you're an asshole for automatically assuming the accused is guilty when no real evidence has been shown.

Word. You could n you'd have a point. He said/she said is a two-way street. I've thought the same myself on ocassions, that a female was lying about being assaulted. I've also thought in some cases victims, both men n women, should've been smarter n likely would've avoided a whole lotta pain n heartache.

The main reason I responded in the first place though was to dispute the opinion. That if an assault or something improper had really happened. A victim wouldn't wait 9 years before coming forward.

I have friends of both sexes that were sexually assaulted. My boy could've gotten paid, straight up open n shut case paid with no doubt. Could've sued the police force in our town n the county our town is in for what happened to him. I understood why he didn't n can't say I would've made a different. Far as my girl. I can't say I understood her decision not to go to the authorities. Though she ended up asking me n another homie for her get back.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

My problem with this is that it is from 2016? That is 9 years ago. Why is this just now out

Yep.. if it were a big deal they would have reported it immediately. This stinks of romance gone wrong, and the sisterhood supporting each other to take down a guy they now hate.

 

[Wazmankg]

On the other hand, a famous and wealthy person is also likely to be accused years later because doing so will grant 15 minutes of fame or because they just want a pay day. I'm sure Harvey Weinstein probably isn't a good person but all those women willingly degraded themselves then tried to claim victim status years later because they're embarrassed. Worse yet, even in cases where the accuser is flat out proven to be a liar -such as in the cases of Trevor Bauer, Matt Araiza or the Duke lacrosse team- millions of braindead lemmings will still believe them because #BelieveAllWomen.

That's why I don't have much to say when it comes to allegations against famous people made years after the alleged facts.

Most famous and wealthy people don't have this problem, we just hear about the ones who do because they're famous and wealthy.