Judge Recommends Suspension of 6 Games for Deshaun Watson

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

 

[futballiscool]

His point is that its a gross distinction that gives false merit or credit to Watson's case... If its face value we're after, then how do the "indefensible scumbag moves" not require demonizing him? Instead you're trying to dismiss that distinction as hyperbole?

I'm not following your point here.

Again, I generally support the " me too" movement but this mentality it fosters that all acts are just as bad "if not worse" than actual r*pe is dangerous imo. This didn't cross the threshold of criminal activity according to our court system

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Again, I generally support the " me too" movement but this mentality it fosters that all acts are just as bad "if not worse" than actual r*pe is dangerous imo. This didn't cross the threshold of criminal activity according to our court system

I can agree that its a dangerous distinction. But the non-violent distinction is bogus when you consider the threats he made. And for it to be in Watson's favor is dumb after the arbiter claimed his acts were egregious, and that he posed a danger to the safety & well-being of these women. And the report this decision was based on only considered 4/24+ accusers... If she found his acts to be that bad based on 4 cases, then how are the other 24 not in consideration? The 'precedent' here is a bad assumption too.

Seems like everything about this is 1 contradiction after another.

 

[PDay8810]

The entertainment these days remains the different opinions from the mases.

Our enemy is most certainly us. You have a right to your opinions as long as they align with mine.

The action between the fat lines can't get here fast enough for me.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't make those decisions, but NFL has the right to safe guard their image and the arbiter doesn't consider the ramifications to the league image and blowback from bad PR over a players action, which why the NFL has Goodell be able to change the punishment. Watson expected sex because he's a star and has money, he needs to made to realize that's not acceptable. 6 games is slap on the wrist.

Yep....this was actually part of Robinson's report. NFL needs to make these decisions without what the blowback might be. You would make the decision out of emotion.

 

[DJ]

The judge said the NFL proved their case and Watson's conduct was predatory behavior.

 

[DJ]

Goodell won't take the full 3 days to decide. It will come down today or Wednesday.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't think the punishment is capped at all. There isn't another case like this ever in the NFL, dozen of women involved and filed suit, before the NFL ( which like all huge entities move at a glacier pace) was able to hear Watson case. Watson even continued after suits were filed. Having a suit for sexual harassment filed should be all the warning needed to change your behavior. Goodell can change the suspension to indefinitely and he won't be breaking any rules because the rule per CBA give him this option.
Also as stated earlier it's about precedent. Watson a serial abuser with 2 dozen suits that he had to settle. The punishment needs to reflect the sheer magnitude of a serial abuser.

Maybe send a note to Robinson and let her know your feelings and how you think she screwed up?

 

[PDay8810]

Goodell won't take the full 3 days to decide. It will come down today or Wednesday.

Well...odds are with you

 

[jarntt]

both parties agreed that they would honor the ruling.

I never saw that. I only saw the players association announce it the night before after obviously being told what the suspension was. I didn't know the league agreed to that

 

[DJ]

Maybe send a note to Robinson and let her know your feelings and how you think she screwed up?

LOL.

Nobody needs to do that since Goodell can overrule her and tag on games.

 

[dtgold88]

Goodell is not capped when/ if deciding to change the punishment.

I think most - maybe all - here know Goodell could change it and do what he wants. Most seem to realize it might just be best to let it go, get it out of the news and not have this end up in an actual court room.

 

[PDay8810]

I never saw that. I only saw the players association announce it the night before after obviously being told what the suspension was. I didn't know the league agreed to that

The league didn't agree

 

[dtgold88]

You can't rewrite the collective bargaining agreement on the fly. If the NFL was this concerned about their perception to women they should have handled Kraft and Snyder much better.

The latter was promoting the most hostile work environment possible for women. Had they set the tone there they'd be arguing from a position of strength. The former frequented actual sex slaves. I mean...yikes.

Which is why I don't think Roger will do anything here. He can fire Sue Robinson from future cases I'd suspect. That's his save face. And address this issue in the next round of negotiations. Because if he pushes this he better be prepared to open a whole can of worms.

and it then likely ends up in a real court room which I cannot imagine he (or other owners) want.

 

[dtgold88]

Pointing to owners misconduct is deflection and has no baring on Watson case. I’m for a life time ban for Watson. He deserves it. Star players been given way to much leeway, time to correct that. The CBA gives Goodell the right and he should apply it.

pointing to Ridley and Gordon is the same type of deflection....weird that does not seem to bother you.

 

[dtgold88]

I don’t really care about Bob Kraft, or Big Ben, or Dan Snyder on this.

Just your sexual predator eventual QB.

Who shouldn’t play this season. And your franchise deserves to be fucked with over him.

The only game Suh has missed his entire career was for stepping on a guys foot and Rog being a fag. I’m asking him to be a bigger fag here.

Luckily so far it's been determined by someone with no agenda with experience deciding cases like this and not by emotional fans.

 

[dtgold88]

I never saw that. I only saw the players association announce it the night before after obviously being told what the suspension was. I didn't know the league agreed to that

as of now they haven't.

 

[dtgold88]

LOL.

Nobody needs to do that since Goodell can overrule her and tag on games.

Yep...or he could abide by her ruling and take it out of the spotlight.....also not see it in a court room.

 

[jarntt]

and it then likely ends up in a real court room which I cannot imagine he (or other owners) want.

I don't think they would be concerned about that at all.

But how about Watson? Let's say it goes that way. Normally when filing a matter like this the party who takes it to court would ask the court to delay the suspension while the case is decided upon. These things can last many months and likely go into next year. So now Watson risks losing almost $3M per game more. Think he wants that?

 

[DJ]

Yep...or he could abide by her ruling and take it out of the spotlight.....also not see it in a court room.

A federal courtroom and take a year to get there and endanger that 46 million salary.....

Watson would be wise to accept whatever he gets and not endanger future seasons when he'll be older. Take whatever suspension he gets this season and move on.