2022 NBA Offseason thread

[shopson67]

Yeah that time. Now do the others.

That's the only one fresh in my mind. Regardless, he needs to be in better shape in terms of core and manageable weight. He hits the floor far too often to stay healthy long term.

 

[The Q]

Roster wise Ayton makes more sense than Turner long-term. That said if you’re the Pacers and short on talent, you need high draft picks. In that sense, Ayton may hinder that and it may be better to let the mediocre logjam of bigs go to battle as constructed.

It all depends of which approach you’d like to take. It may be a matter of compensation. Turner, Theis, a future second, and maybe one other throw-in from the Boston deal (Malik Fitts?) would be my offer.

Jalen Smith has apparently already been penciled in as the starting PF. Could make for an awkward combination after all the practice battles he and Ayton almost certainly had in Phoenix…

I don’t know how much it matters.

It’s going to be really hard to put tank hou, okc, and sa

Even det is naturally bad.

I don’t think ayton hurts you that much in theory.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Can a S&T (Ayton) be part of a multiple team deal?

All Utah is giving up here is Donovan and they get Ben AND picks?

 

[trojanfan12]

There are varying degrees no? Ha can have marginal improvement over the next few years and not have upside or realize an upside.

Definitely varying degrees. After his rookie season, his upside appeared to be like the upside of a couple of Lakers other 2nd round picks who have become important rotation players.

After his 2nd season, he still looked to have decent upside, but not as promising as his rookie year.

After last year, it looks like his upside is role player, like he could be some teams 8 or 9.

He's only 21, he's athletic and has good size (which is likely why some Western Conference GM apparently said that he has some value)...but he has actually regressed since his rookie year. Because he's so young, there's always a chance he can turn things around. Maybe even have a big jump. But as @tlance pointed out, he doesn't appear to have a very high basketball IQ, which means he can't be counted on to at least make the right play.

Imo, he might be better off being traded to a team that is tanking so he can get consistent playing time with no pressure to win.

I disagree with tlances take that he'll be out of the league by 25. I think he'll manage to figure out enough to stay in the league, but likely as a guy who gets traded a few times to make salary matches work.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Definitely varying degrees. After his rookie season, his upside appeared to be like the upside of a couple of Lakers other 2nd round picks who have become important rotation players.

After his 2nd season, he still looked to have decent upside, but not as promising as his rookie year.

After last year, it looks like his upside is role player, like he could be some teams 8 or 9.

He's only 21, he's athletic and has good size (which is likely why some Western Conference GM apparently said that he has some value)...but he has actually regressed since his rookie year. Because he's so young, there's always a chance he can turn things around. Maybe even have a big jump. But as @tlance pointed out, he doesn't appear to have a very high basketball IQ, which means he can't be counted on to at least make the right play.

Imo, he might be better off being traded to a team that is tanking so he can get consistent playing time with no pressure to win.

I disagree with tlances take that he'll be out of the league by 25. I think he'll manage to figure out enough to stay in the league, but likely as a guy who gets traded a few times to make salary matches work.

So would you agree that when sports fans use that generic term “upside” that THT in an assessment right now doesn’t possess much correct? It’s my understanding of the term that when people are referencing a young players upside the goal generally isn’t a 12–15 minute a night player, correct?

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah that time. Now do the others.

I think some of his injury issues are the result of how he plays. He was actually played point guard most of his life before he had a big growth spurt. That is part of what makes him so good. But those kinds of cuts, moves, etc. are hard on the joints and ligaments of a 7 footer. Him ending up on the floor a lot doesnt help either.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

So would you agree that when sports fans use that generic term “upside” that THT in an assessment right now doesn’t possess much correct? It’s my understanding of the term that when people are referencing a young players upside the goal generally isn’t a 12–15 minute a night player, correct?

Kudos to him somehow convincing LA to give him 30 mil

 

[shopson67]

Kudos to him somehow convincing LA to give him 30 mil

He's a pet project of Lebron's and a Klutch client. No extra work necessary.

 

[trojanfan12]

So would you agree that when sports fans use that generic term “upside” that THT in an assessment right now doesn’t possess much correct? It’s my understanding of the term that when people are referencing a young players upside the goal generally isn’t a 12–15 minute a night player, correct?

Generally speaking, yes. The problem, imo, is that folks use the term ''upside'' without context, so others assume they are talking about huge upside when that may not be the case.

 

[The Q]

Kudos to him somehow convincing LA to give him 30 mil

It was fomo as well

No one wants to be the guy who let him go and watch him blow up elsewhere

 

[Shanemansj13]

What happened to Legler's face? Too much plastic surgery/botox, dude looks like a mannequin now.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

That’s called pissing money away

 

[dtgold88]

No comparison other than he is comfortable with his shot and Okoro isn’t yet. They both play defense too obviously Okoro being a specialist

Saw the game and will say what I like about him that doesn't really matter the setting is the form.

also seems like he has a pretty quick release, too, but let's wait to see him in real games.

 

[dtgold88]

Can a S&T (Ayton) be part of a multiple team deal?

S and T can (we acquired LM in 3 team deal) but not sure the team trading the signed player (Ayton) can also include other players (like Bridges). Could be wrong.

 

[Shanemansj13]

He didn't want to join a loaded team and get free ships. Says a lot about his character.

Bradley Beal 'didn't want' Warriors trade in 2021, Brian Windhorst says

 

[bksballer89]

Would love to see Bam at 21/10/4

 

[shopson67]

Would love to see Bam at 21/10/4

To be honest, there is clearly a ceiling lol.

 

[dtgold88]

To be honest, there is clearly a ceiling lol.

admittedly, I had never heard him called "no ceiling". Did he make it up for himself like The King?

 

[bksballer89]

To be honest, there is clearly a ceiling lol.

Well he increased production every single year so he clearly yet to reach a ceiling. Added something to his offense every year as well

 

[bksballer89]