• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

2022 NBA Offseason thread

shopson67

Well-Known Member
36,455
14,363
1,033
Joined
Jul 16, 2013
Location
Rochester, NY
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I think you guys are overvaluing Donovan Mitchell. I don’t think he’s a great player. I just think he came on to a team that had little scoring when he came into the league and he could Chuck 25 a game. So people now think he’s good. Give the top 1/3 of the league that many looks a game and they’ll likely be more productive than he.

I'd put him at the all-star level, but not the perennial all-star type. In the discussion every year...
 

fightinfunbags

Well-Known Member
51,761
32,649
1,033
Joined
Apr 17, 2020
Location
G
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,063.50
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I'd put him at the all-star level, but not the perennial all-star type. In the discussion every year...
Not an all star for me:
Luka
Book
CP3
Curry
Dame

All guards in the West that would be on my yearly West All Stars before Mitchell
 

Shanemansj13

Finger Poppin Dat Pussy
110,127
31,772
1,033
Joined
Oct 18, 2012
Location
Dallas
Hoopla Cash
$ 506.35
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Not an all star for me:
Luka
Book
CP3
Curry
Dame

All guards in the West that would be on my yearly West All Stars before Mitchell
Luka, Book and Curry are superstars. CP3 at this point is high all-star level. Dame a star.

Just bc he doesn't make an all-star doesn't mean he isn't all-star level. He's proved time and time again he is an all-star type of player.
 

fightinfunbags

Well-Known Member
51,761
32,649
1,033
Joined
Apr 17, 2020
Location
G
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,063.50
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Luka, Book and Curry are superstars. CP3 at this point is high all-star level. Dame a star.

Just bc he doesn't make an all-star doesn't mean he isn't all-star level. He's proved time and time again he is an all-star type of player.
Agree to disagree. He’s just a volume shooter for me. Doesn’t defend. Doesn’t make guys around him better.
 

Mecca

ClipGangOrDontBang
44,080
22,870
1,033
Joined
Jun 26, 2014
Location
Snottsdale
Hoopla Cash
$ 19,999.54
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Not an all star for me:
Luka
Book
CP3
Curry
Dame

All guards in the West that would be on my yearly West All Stars before Mitchell
....and Ja is coming.

Edwards in a few years too.

I think Donovan is in that group.

But, definitely not at the top of the list.
 

fightinfunbags

Well-Known Member
51,761
32,649
1,033
Joined
Apr 17, 2020
Location
G
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,063.50
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
....and Ja is coming.

Edwards in a few years too.

I think Donovan is in that group.

But, definitely not at the top of the list.
Yep. Good names to add. I’m cool being the minority opinion here. Legit plus NBA starter. Can’t be Batman on a contender and maybe can’t even be the Robin.
 

Wamu

whats-a-matta-u?
69,097
37,821
1,033
Joined
Jul 14, 2014
Location
Colorado
Hoopla Cash
$ 420.04
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Lambo not exactly coming off well either. Emotional distress over a kick from a 57 year old coach has affected him that deeply? Not only that, Meyer held back Lambo's participation trophy...

Meyer's own arrogance has ruined his reputation. But for Lambo to say he can't sleep because of him? Come on man.
 

Shanemansj13

Finger Poppin Dat Pussy
110,127
31,772
1,033
Joined
Oct 18, 2012
Location
Dallas
Hoopla Cash
$ 506.35
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Yep. Good names to add. I’m cool being the minority opinion here. Legit plus NBA starter. Can’t be Batman on a contender and maybe can’t even be the Robin.
Kinda the whole point, you upgrade and he can be a #2 or #3. Jimmy, Bam, Mitchell. He doesn't have to be Batman, really even Robin.
 

fightinfunbags

Well-Known Member
51,761
32,649
1,033
Joined
Apr 17, 2020
Location
G
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,063.50
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Kinda the whole point, you upgrade and he can be a #2 or #3. Jimmy, Bam, Mitchell. He doesn't have to be Batman, really even Robin.
And I’m saying he really doesn’t fit with that group. Ironically, he fits best with a center like Gobert that doesn’t need shots but can cover behind him for his defensive issues. It would make more sense to start with those two and then add an elite wing like a PG13 type (not him particularly because he’s long in the tooth now) that guy needs to be the Batman on a Mitchell team. They tried that with Bogdanovic. The problem is he isn’t better than Mitchell and you need somebody better than Mitchell.
 

Stakesarehigh

One day it will all make sense
37,643
23,139
1,033
Joined
Oct 8, 2016
Location
Cincinnati
Hoopla Cash
$ 77,957.12
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
And I’m saying he really doesn’t fit with that group. Ironically, he fits best with a center like Gobert that doesn’t need shots but can cover behind him for his defensive issues. It would make more sense to start with those two and then add an elite wing like a PG13 type (not him particularly because he’s long in the tooth now) that guy needs to be the Batman on a Mitchell team. They tried that with Bogdanovic. The problem is he isn’t better than Mitchell and you need somebody better than Mitchell.

Bam doesn't require a lot of shots either
 

DJ

Generic line for rent here
Supporting Member Level 3
161,906
47,069
1,033
Joined
Jun 26, 2014
Location
Soon to be the west coast
Hoopla Cash
$ 12,201.14
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
He’s not a fit for them at all. He dominates the ball and is an inefficient player. His presence would serve to negate Jimmy Butler’s value. The two players you called out in Herro and Robinson are both higher percentage shooters and play better off the ball than on the ball. I haven’t even mentioned Lowry yet. He has zero role if they add Mitchell. This would be a perfect example of an organization adding a name guy regardless of fit. That’s what dumb organizations do and I don’t think the Heat are a dumb organization. This move would really surprise me on their end.
Yep.
 

Shanemansj13

Finger Poppin Dat Pussy
110,127
31,772
1,033
Joined
Oct 18, 2012
Location
Dallas
Hoopla Cash
$ 506.35
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
And I’m saying he really doesn’t fit with that group. Ironically, he fits best with a center like Gobert that doesn’t need shots but can cover behind him for his defensive issues. It would make more sense to start with those two and then add an elite wing like a PG13 type (not him particularly because he’s long in the tooth now) that guy needs to be the Batman on a Mitchell team. They tried that with Bogdanovic. The problem is he isn’t better than Mitchell and you need somebody better than Mitchell.
You just described the Heat lol. Bam doesn't need shots and is a great defensive force and Jimmy is an elite wing - Batman.

Bam wouldn't be a #2 that needs shots just from an overall talent standpoint, Bam would be the 2nd best player. The shots are being distributed mainly between Butler, Mitchell, Lowry and role players.
 

fightinfunbags

Well-Known Member
51,761
32,649
1,033
Joined
Apr 17, 2020
Location
G
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,063.50
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
You just described the Heat lol. Bam doesn't need shots and is a great defensive force and Jimmy is an elite wing - Batman.

Bam wouldn't be a #2 that needs shots just from an overall talent standpoint, Bam would be the 2nd best player. The shots are being distributed mainly between Butler, Mitchell, Lowry and role players.
No I didn’t. How often have you watched Bam? He’s much more of an offensive player than Gobert. Bam can actually facilitate and has become a strong passer. Outside of put backs Rudy has no other offensive game and they’re dramatically different defensive players. Bam’s value is being able to switch on to everybody 1-5. Gobert is elite rim protection. Entirely different style of defenders. Lazy take to think that because both guys are plus defenders that they’re the same guy.

Don’t get me wrong. My squad is in the East and Miami is about to close them out in a series. I would LOVE for them to pull a Knicks and give up assets to get an overrated chucker who doesn’t fit their culture. I’d be all about them fucking up like that.
 

fightinfunbags

Well-Known Member
51,761
32,649
1,033
Joined
Apr 17, 2020
Location
G
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,063.50
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
You just described the Heat lol. Bam doesn't need shots and is a great defensive force and Jimmy is an elite wing - Batman.

Bam wouldn't be a #2 that needs shots just from an overall talent standpoint, Bam would be the 2nd best player. The shots are being distributed mainly between Butler, Mitchell, Lowry and role players.
Jimmy Butler also doesn’t take 3s the way he should. A wing that gets paired with a ball dominant chucked like Mitchell should have a more willing 3 point shooter around him.
 

dtgold88

Well-Known Member
31,840
7,478
533
Joined
Dec 25, 2018
Location
Cleveland, OH
Hoopla Cash
$ 341.36
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
She was great in Sons of Anarchy.
Sure is...Been watching it last few weeks.

Cannot think of the name of it but was a network show she starred in not too long ago as an attorney I liked.
 

wildturkey

Well-Known Member
25,988
8,296
533
Joined
Sep 4, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 98,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Finally some good news out of LakerLand. Give me him or Ham

 
Top