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Both sides publicly admit that "an inquiry was made", but it was quickly shut down by GB. No one I've reas/seen/heard claims there was an actual offer
Correct no offers were actually made but a couple of teams unofficially inquired and were quickly rebuffed
 

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Correct no offers were actually made but a couple of teams unofficially inquired and were quickly rebuffed
Sounds as though Denver actually did make an offer...numerous reporters claims much, but I haven't seen a team official from either side confirm an actual offer was made
 

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Real draft winners??

L. Bell, T. Gurley, and AP.. Still 3 teams where they could go and dominate the pathetic existing depth charts, shit I'd even add Shady....smdh
 

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Real draft winners??

L. Bell, T. Gurley, and AP.. Still 3 teams where they could go and dominate the pathetic existing depth charts, shit I'd even add Shady....smdh
Think your holding out hope for some long toothed guys. Ap is the only intrigue here to me. Gurley has no knees and bell well, yeah we saw last year.
 

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Think your holding out hope for some long toothed guys. Ap is the only intrigue here to me. Gurley has no knees and bell well, yeah we saw last year.
Oh contraire mon amie...I have no hopes for those guys...simply stating the reality that they'd still be top of the depth charts of they signed. Not at all an endorsement of them. Rather a critique of the dipshits that didn't draft a RB...IMHO of course
 

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Oh contraire mon amie...I have no hopes for those guys...simply stating the reality that they'd still be top of the depth charts of they signed. Not at all an endorsement of them. Rather a critique of the dipshits that didn't draft a RB...IMHO of course
But i dont think they would. Said that last year with bell. Heck they let him walk and brought in jerrick mckinnon. He was beat out by the those great kc backs you adore.

Gurley couldnt move by the 3/4 mark last year.

ap can bang but hes not a bellcow anymore.
 

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But i dont think they would. Said that last year with bell. Heck they let him walk and brought in jerrick mckinnon. He was beat out by the those great kc backs you adore.

Gurley couldnt move by the 3/4 mark last year.

ap can bang but hes not a bellcow anymore.
Wether they would isn't the point...it's that they could..the mere existence of the possibility that those teams exited the draft, and those three old farts could still be the best backs on thier teams if they were to sign them, is an utter failure on the part of their HC and GM's...and that..is the point.
I couldn't give a squirt wether they should or will..just that its a serious disappointment that the possibility exists in the first place
 

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Wether they would isn't the point...it's that they could..the mere existence of the possibility that those teams exited the draft, and those three old farts could still be the best backs on thier teams if they were to sign them, is an utter failure on the part of their HC and GM's...and that..is the point.
I couldn't give a squirt wether they should or will..just that its a serious disappointment that the possibility exists in the first place
Wait. In one breathe youre saying they instantly leap frog to the op of the depth chart....then the next its a “possibility”. I get the point that the geams could use an upgrade. But the options listed.....not being a jerk. But it goes hand in hand. Ppl are still hanging on to steelers lev bell. He hasn't done much in years.

i mean, its possible someone signs montee ball and hes the top back too. Hes had basically as much life as bell and gurley at the end of last year.
 

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Wait. In one breathe youre saying they instantly leap frog to the op of the depth chart....then the next its a “possibility”. I get the point that the geams could use an upgrade. But the options listed.....not being a jerk. But it goes hand in hand. Ppl are still hanging on to steelers lev bell. He hasn't done much in years.

i mean, its possible someone signs montee ball and hes the top back too. Hes had basically as much life as bell and gurley at the end of last year.
Uggh...yer missing the point...the entire point is there's three teams the should've drafted a RB, and didn't, they could sign my dead grandma and she could compete for the job...get me???
. Everything else is just me ranting
 

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But yes, if Miami, ATL, or ARZ should make that mistake and sign one of them, yer damned right I bet they would beat out the schmucks already there. Doesn't mean they'd be any good
 

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Uggh...yer missing the point...the entire point is there's three teams the should've drafted a RB, and didn't, they could sign my dead grandma and she could compete for the job...get me???
. Everything else is just me ranting
Fair enough.
 

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But yes, if Miami, ATL, or ARZ should make that mistake and sign one of them, yer damned right I bet the would beat out the schmuck already there. Doesn't mean they'd be any good
But again, that was the same story last year. Why would they succeed now?
 

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Real draft winners??

L. Bell, T. Gurley, and AP.. Still 3 teams where they could go and dominate the pathetic existing depth charts, shit I'd even add Shady....smdh
Might as well add Frank Gore.
He's still around and kicking, right?
 

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Gaskin... 4.1 YPC average behind a crap O-Line last season... Just sayin'. Good receiver as well.

But thinking about it, Flores comes from the Bellichick tree. They never really put a premium on the RB position. Trying to think of any "stud" RB they ever really ran with.... Dillon maybe?

The RB position is devalued significantly as we all know. A "stud" RB that drives the team is a rarity. Most are "system" guys that fit with what their team is doing. Again, Gaskin looked good last year IMO. I thought he was a smaller "scat back" type at Washington, but he really battled for yards last season and think he may be a top 10 surprise if he stays healthy.

As for the running game not helping Tua last season? Meh, the truth was closer to, "Defenses disrespected Tua's game last season and made it harder for the running game." IMO...

(I watch a lot of Dolphins games because that's my daughter's team. :) )
 

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Gaskin... 4.1 YPC average behind a crap O-Line last season... Just sayin'. Good receiver as well.

But thinking about it, Flores comes from the Bellichick tree. They never really put a premium on the RB position. Trying to think of any "stud" RB they ever really ran with.... Dillon maybe?

The RB position is devalued significantly as we all know. A "stud" RB that drives the team is a rarity. Most are "system" guys that fit with what their team is doing. Again, Gaskin looked good last year IMO. I thought he was a smaller "scat back" type at Washington, but he really battled for yards last season and think he may be a top 10 surprise if he stays healthy.

As for the running game not helping Tua last season? Meh, the truth was closer to, "Defenses disrespected Tua's game last season and made it harder for the running game." IMO...

(I watch a lot of Dolphins games because that's my daughter's team. :) )
Bellichick ALWAYS has RB's...maybe not just 1, but he certainly invests heavily in the position
 

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Bellichick ALWAYS has RB's...maybe not just 1, but he certainly invests heavily in the position

I may have said that wrong. I'm not saying he doesn't care about the position, but never really saw him go heavy on it. he got to a point where they were luxury picks when drafted... Even so, he always seemed to end up with a stable of "meh" that fit the Patriots well... He invests in the position, but don't ever recall him ever really going for a stud RB (Again, possible exception being Dillon via FA)
 

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I may have said that wrong. I'm not saying he doesn't care about the position, but never really saw him go heavy on it. he got to a point where they were luxury picks when drafted... Even so, he always seemed to end up with a stable of "meh" that fit the Patriots well... He invests in the position, but don't ever recall him ever really going for a stud RB (Again, possible exception being Dillon via FA)

I think Sony was his only 1st round RB (I could be wrong about that...Mahoney?)

Dillon and Blount were hogs. James White threw a wrench into most other RB”1” (and Faulk before him).
 

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I think Sony was his only 1st round RB (I could be wrong about that...Mahoney?)

Dillon and Blount were hogs. James White threw a wrench into most other RB”1” (and Faulk before him).
That's right, Michel was the one I was trying to think of as really the only time I recall Bellichick going RB that early and it was definitely a luxury pick for the Pats at that point.... Even so, it never really seemed like he was ever meant to be some sort of bellcow feature back. Just isn't how they operate. Not sure if Miami is building toward that or not. They certainly seemed to want to have a primary back last season, but that may just be because the didn't have many options?
 
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