B1G Thread

[tabascojet]

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

You think the Gators were seeded properly tabasco? How far you got them going?

 

[tabascojet]

You think the Gators were seeded properly tabasco? How far you got them going?

Too high.....va tech has games where they were beter and also shit the bed so we shall see. But I'd love to see them get a chance to knock ohios dick in the dirt again

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

Too high.....va tech has games where they were beter and also shit the bed so we shall see. But I'd love to see them get a chance to knock ohios dick in the dirt again

Hell yeah. Chomp them boys. Tbh that Suckeye team has like 3 good college players and the rest are Mac level talent. The main reason the B1G looks good is because there are so many seniors and upper classmen, not because of talent. That could change if Juwan's classes come through tho.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

9 teams got in? That's pretty impressive. Best part is two #1 seeds and two #2 seeds. That leaves open the possibility of an all B1G Final Four. Now that would require Iowa being on their A game for sure as a lineup of VCU, Kansas and then Gonzaga won't be easy. And OSU, though having an easier path, will still need to bring their A game vs Baylor.

As a Gopher fan, do I want an all B1G Final Four? Would make the B1G as a whole a more desirable destination for recruits, sort of like how SEC teams do better in recruiting than the average even though they are not Bama. But a season like this shows how that can backfire to a degree. IU and UMn and possibly PSU are all 3 teams that had they played against the Pac or the ACC this season, probably would have made the tourney, but instead couldn't even make it into the NIT as there were simply too many superior teams to have to contend with in conf play.

Gophers will probably have a new coach soon, and that could make a world of difference regarding how they'd respond via recruiting going forward if the B1G has a record post season this year. A small part of me loves the idea of the B1G pulling off something like an all B1G Final Four. SEC has so much clout when it comes to football, the B1G needs to dominate in cbb. I just care more about my Gophers than I do about the B1G Conf as a whole.

Well, no matter how the B1G responds this post season, the search for a new coach will be arguably the most significant search in Gopher Athletics history in the modern age. Will be interesting. Realistically, I don't expect much seeing who they chose last time around, but I have very big dreams of what could be.

 

[PIBuckeye]

Just like your bitch ass rooting for 20 different teams right? Lmao

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

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Look at the boomer bitch's response per usual.

 

[PnkPanther]

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

 

[PnkPanther]

SHOCKING

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

SHOCKING

Pitino may have needed to go, but it's pathetic how much Gopher fans blamed him for every loss whether he had starters injured or not or whether it was a road game vs a high quality opponent or not.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

SHOCKING

Is it really that shocking? I've defended Pitino far more than most, but only when there was a legitimate defense to be made.

Btw, who do you most want as the new coach, and who do you think they'll realistically end up hiring?

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

SHOCKING

You and Indiana should be throwing up bids for Beilein, Musselman and Nate Oats. Nate Oats is a midwest guy too.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You and Indiana should be throwing up bids for Beilein, Musselman and Nate Oats. Nate Oats is a midwest guy too.

Many Gopher fans have mentioned Beilein, but more have mentioned Musselman, but I haven't heard a word about Oats? Far more are interested in other guys with local ties, such as Dutcher, Ryan Saunders, Niko Medved, etc..

 

[PnkPanther]

Is it really that shocking? I've defended Pitino far more than most, but only when there was a legitimate defense to be made.

Btw, who do you most want as the new coach, and who do you think they'll realistically end up hiring?

Dutcher, gates, Smith are my top 3


And it was sarcasm. I've defended pitino. It's year 8, not enough.


I think he would've been fired last year if it weren't for covid19

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Dutcher, gates, Smith are my top 3


And it was sarcasm. I've defended pitino. It's year 8, not enough.


I think he would've been fired last year if it weren't for covid19

If not for the most brutal and grueling schedule ever known to mankind, for the first 16 games of conf play, the team might have done quite well vs the last 4 opponents and easily made the NCAA tourney. And had our schedule not been so grueling, we might have had an extra player or two to help us beat OSU in that quarterfinal conf tourney game. I mean, I'm just saying...

 

[navamind]

Congrats on the great seasons Illini, OSU and Iowa fans. Hopefully we'll get to see some of you guys in the tournament.

Also a congrats to Rutgers fans on finally getting to see an NCAA tournament!

 

[PnkPanther]

If not for the most brutal and grueling schedule ever known to mankind, for the first 16 games of conf play, the team might have done quite well vs the last 4 opponents and easily made the NCAA tourney. And had our schedule not been so grueling, we might have had an extra player or two to help us beat OSU in that quarterfinal conf tourney game. I mean, I'm just saying...

The hard part of their schedule (which they did well in) has nothing to do with their inability back end of schedule.

I like Pitino, he's funny, honest, but after 8 years his BIG record was 40 games under 500

There are challenges in MN, it's not an easy job. Pitino was learning on job after one year of HC experience at age of 31, the B1G is not a conference to learn on the job. I wish him the best

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

Brad Stevens rumors heating up!

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

The hard part of their schedule (which they did well in) has nothing to do with their inability back end of schedule.

Sure it did, as playing a grueling schedule can wear a team down and lead to injuries, which is obviously what happened with the Gophers, and it seems to me you ignore one significant factor about what you label the hard part of their schedule, that being that 3 of the 4 wins were played at home, Iowa, MSU, Ohio St & Michigan. We lost the 4 road games which were arguably the toughest games in the first 8 games, @ Ill, @UW, @Mich, @Ia, and by significant margins, which can easily be expected as 3 of those 4 are Top 5 ranked teams in the nation. MSU ended up getting into the tourney, but may not have been playing as well when we met them?

So when you consider the home/away factor, UMn did basically just as could be expected for a good and HEALTHY team.

Now you and many others question why the team "seemed" to lose their mojo after the Michigan win. I have a theory.

#1, when they should have garnered their first road game of the season, vs last place Nebraska, when they were peaking, instead that game got postponed and the team, instead of playing their easiest road opponent while they had good mojo going, ended up getting a break that would have been far more needed later in the season when injuries had started to creep into the picture. My theory is that this break threw them out of their flow. Next game was a home game vs a Maryland team that wasn't considered, at that time, a formidable opponent. But I'm one of those geeks who track the rankings, and what I noticed, "after the fact", is that Maryland rose in the ratings consistently to the point of making it into the Top 30 of the ratings. That made them a Tier One opponent, even when played at home. So the loss to Maryland at home, had we gotten looked at for the NCAA tourney, would not have been considered anywhere near to a bad loss. In fact it would have been considered a good loss.

Now our next 6 games went basically how they would be expected to have gone, a road game vs a Top 20 rated Purdue is very much a good loss and it's retarded that any Gopher fan would be so disappointed by it. Granted, at the time the game was played, Purdue wasn't yet rated Top 30 in the NET ratings, but they were close, and I think they were either ranked Top 25 in the AP or at least getting a lot of votes. Rutgers may not have ended up as highly rated as Purdue, but like Purdue, their rating rose steadily, AFTER playing us. This seems to happen a lot, the Gophers lose to a team most Gopher fans do not respect, they let their initial impressions of the loss become carved into stone in their brains, so when the teams that beat us end up higher rated/respected nationally, far too many Gopher fans allow their initial impressions remain going forward, so I go on Facebook and see dozens of Gopher fans proclaiming how much the Gophers suck, and point to every road loss as evidence. But Rutgers rose up into the Top 40 of the NET ratings and got a pretty decent seeding in the Big Dance, so the ROAD loss to them, again, had the Gophers gotten looked at by the Committee, that loss would not have come even close to being considered a bad loss. Most Gopher fans probably don't have a clue how the Selection Committee looks at things. Most Gopher fans probably wouldn't have predicted the B1G getting 9 teams into the Big Dance, either. The SC considers any team rated among the Top 75 of the NET ratings as a Tier One Road Win/Loss.

Tier One is Top 30 at home, Top 50 on a neutral court, and Top 75 on the road. So... even their loss to IU on the road would have been looked at as an acceptable loss according to the Selection Committee, and of course the much higher rated Maryland. And of course, before those two losses, they won the home games vs Nebraska and Purdue, the Purdue win being another "significant win", a win vs a Top 20 ranked team.

Finally, the home loss vs The Illini. They are considered by most to be the B1G's best chance of getting a team into the FF, and having a shot at winning a Natl Title, too.



So... up to this point, the first 16 games of the conference season, The Gophers faced OVER TWICE AS MANY opponents from the Top Half of the Conf(11 games) compared to the teams from the bottom half(5 games), and among those 11 games vs the Top Half(all of which are rated among the Top 35 of the NET ratings), 7 of those 11 games were road games, and also 7 of those 11 games were vs Top 8 rated teams. I'd challenge anyone to show me another team in the nation who played a tougher more grueling 16 game stretch than the Gophers to this point.

I mean, ROAD games vs #3, #4, #6, #22, #27, #35, #38 & #63. And home games vs #3, #4, #6, #8, #22, #35, #70 & #126.

That is 7 games vs Top 8 ranked teams, ALL 8 road games are Tier One level games with 7 of the 8 being vs Top 40 rated teams. HALF the home games were vs Top 8 rated teams, and 5 of the 8 home games are Tier One level games and we won all but 2 of them.


Now as understandable as the home loss vs the Illini could have been in the eyes of the committee, I believe by the time of that game, the injuries had already come into play, and helped contribute to how large the margin of victory was for the Illini. Now the other part of my theory is that the brutal degree/level of how tough those first 16 games of the conf schedule were, simply wore down the team, not just physically, but also mentally and emotionally, which helped contribute to the not being able to win the close game @ Rutgers, and then the players seeming to give up late against the Illini.

All 4 of their remaining games were vs the bottom half of the conf, with 2 of them being home games and one of the road games being vs last place Nebraska, so without the injuries, alot of people believe the Gophers could have or would have won at least 3 of the games if not all 4 of them. I've seen several people talking about how Michigan probably won't make it to the FF now that JUST ONE of their players is injured, yet somehow the Gophers were supposed to win games with several players injured including 2 starters with one of them being arguably our most important player because of the role he played in the lineup. Without just that one player, opposing teams were able to focus attention, often double teaming our best player, making our whole offense struggle.