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Haskins benched...Kyle Allen will start against the Rams this week.

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That isn't the same scenario though. Do you think anyone would have given up that compensation having seen Rosen play 4 weeks into the 2019 season, where he was just as bad? Haskins didn't have much value this past off-season, but now he has even less. Another is who would trade for him? The Dolphins needed a QB when they traded for Rosen, so there was some demand there, and they didn't have a high enough of a draft pick to get Murray or Jones. Plus 2019 was a weak draft class for QB, 2021 looks to be really strong. Who needs a QB next year that will trade for him, that won't be able to land one better in th draft?

Possibly but no one knows... Also, I never stated that some team will trade the exact picks for Haskins as they did for Rosen... My comment was more about you saying that he can't be traded because he has no value... Some team will trade for him... I would be surprised if the skins didn't land at least 3rd or 4th for him if they do end up trading him..
 
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Possibly but no one knows... Also, I never stated that some team will trade the exact picks for Haskins as they did for Rosen... My comment was more about you saying that he can't be traded because he has no value... Some team will trade for him... I would be surprised if the skins didn't land at least 3rd or 4th for him if they do end up trading him..

I just don't think he has that much, if any, value at this point. We can agree to disagree on that, which is fine. I'd be pretty surprised if they got a 3rd or 4th. I'd guess a 6th, but we'll see what happens. He's almost assuredly done in DC.
 

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I just don't think he has that much, if any, value at this point. We can agree to disagree on that, which is fine. I'd be pretty surprised if they got a 3rd or 4th. I'd guess a 6th, but we'll see what happens. He's almost assuredly done in DC.
When u demote him to third string, yeah value goes down for a bit
 

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Miami traded a 2nd and a 5th for Rosen.

They can't get a third or something?
Miami was desperate and well, they are Miami. My thought about this scenario is nobody out there is that desperate. of course, that may change at some point but he has no trade value as of right now.
 

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Personally I don't know why you don't go to Smith now. Washington is half a game out of first . If Smith is healthy he's CLEARLY youre best QB. And its not close. If he's not healthy then he shouldn't be on your roster
 

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Personally I don't know why you don't go to Smith now. Washington is half a game out of first . If Smith is healthy he's CLEARLY youre best QB. And its not close. If he's not healthy then he shouldn't be on your roster
Bc Ron clearly brought Kyle Allen as a backup plan for a reason. Coaches have their guys
 

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Not too surprising Haskins was benched since he wasn't Rivera's draft selection and bring over his guy from Carolina.
 

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Personally I don't know why you don't go to Smith now. Washington is half a game out of first . If Smith is healthy he's CLEARLY youre best QB. And its not close. If he's not healthy then he shouldn't be on your roster
Smith wasn't cleared until late in preseason. Allen got almost all the back-up reps. Regardless of health he's the QB who is most up to speed.
 

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Only on the internet can giving a 1st round pick a full 2019 camp, 7 games to sit behind a starter, and then 13 starts, be considered NOT giving a player a fair chance. :ohwell:

It's not over for Haskins but being benched is on him rather than anyone else. He's got a game off to get his head straight and then get back in the fight. His contract is fully guaranteed so he'll get this season and the next offseason to prove his value. No need to trade him at this point, (and his contract/cap situation wouldn't hurt anyone), because he won't be worth less in March.
 

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I’m not saying it’s smart. But you know it happens
RRs framing this as Kyle having had the time from playing so poorly to now to having had time taking mental reps on the bench and that he’ll play with the same set of guys that DH did. Now it’s time for DH to do that.

If Kyle fails/succeeds it’ll help with assessment of everyone. Is it Dwayne or is it his complementary parts. And if so, RR will know where the team needs help. RR was also quick to point out that this was a setback for DH and he was extremely sympathetic with the facts that DH hadn’t gotten training camp, etc. and knew this wasn’t FAIR....but that doesn’t matter, when ya look around and see that the division is so weak this year.

With Alabama and Ohio State players on the roster, who are used to winning, it also isn’t fair if it is QB play holding the team back. Also states this is only a setback for now for DH.

*we will see. Not sure I buy all this but RR does appear to be sincere. Perhaps we will see DH back later in the year. Prior to hearing his presser I thought there was no chance. Now, im not so sure.
 

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RRs framing this as Kyle having had the time from playing so poorly to now to having had time taking mental reps on the bench and that he’ll play with the same set of guys that DH did. Now it’s time for DH to do that.

If Kyle fails/succeeds it’ll help with assessment of everyone. Is it Dwayne or is it his complementary parts. And if so, RR will know where the team needs help. RR was also quick to point out that this was a setback for DH and he was extremely sympathetic with the facts that DH hadn’t gotten training camp, etc. and knew this wasn’t FAIR....but that doesn’t matter, when ya look around and see that the division is so weak this year.

With Alabama and Ohio State players on the roster, who are used to winning, it also isn’t fair if it is QB play holding the team back. Also states this is only a setback for now for DH.

*we will see. Not sure I buy all this but RR does appear to be sincere. Perhaps we will see DH back later in the year. Prior to hearing his presser I thought there was no chance. Now, im not so sure.

In the end, even if it is the wrong decision...with how shitty the division is I see his point. You just don't like to see a young QB yanked around like this and expect him to grow but we will see. To be clear, I've never said Haskins was the future just needed a shot. I said he should sit and learn from the start well now is his time to sit and learn. Could take 2 years, they could throw him back at starting QB if it gets bad or eventually trade next season...who knows. Either way, it seems at this point they need to find a QB for future still bc they don't seem to believe in Haskins. But right now you go for the division...you have to. I could see if Dallas was 4-0 or something but they have a legit shot at this point. But like everyone said, not sure Allen wins the division...if anything Alex Smith wins the division for this team.
 

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You just don't like to see a young QB yanked around like this and expect him to grow but we will see.
That’s the worst part of it. Completely unfair. But the writing was on the wall imo as soon as Danny Boy stepped on his FO (who didn’t want DH) and insisted DH (his buddy) was pick #15.

Who, except delusional Dan thought the Skins was the right place for a raw, undeveloped, talented arm, poor mechanic QB with barely anytime in college...could succeed. Especially with Jay Gruden on his way out and knowing a new coach was going to have a QB he didn’t choose.
 

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That’s the worst part of it. Completely unfair. But the writing was on the wall imo as soon as Danny Boy stepped on his FO (who didn’t want DH) and insisted DH (his buddy) was pick #15.

Who, except delusional Dan thought the Skins was the right place for a raw, undeveloped, talented arm, poor mechanic QB with barely anytime in college...could succeed. Especially with Jay Gruden on his way out and knowing a new coach was going to have a QB he didn’t choose.

Washington was not a great landing spot for Haskins I will agree. And that's not to say he would've succeeded anyway
 

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That’s the worst part of it. Completely unfair. But the writing was on the wall imo as soon as Danny Boy stepped on his FO (who didn’t want DH) and insisted DH (his buddy) was pick #15.

Who, except delusional Dan thought the Skins was the right place for a raw, undeveloped, talented arm, poor mechanic QB with barely anytime in college...could succeed. Especially with Jay Gruden on his way out and knowing a new coach was going to have a QB he didn’t choose.
I don’t see how an organization can go back to him....

consistent leaks of unhappiness with him. Leaks of benching him. Then you bench him....his agent fired off.....then u drop him to 3rd on the depth chart....nah come on he’s not in your plans. Again, I’m not saying I agree...

But the more I think about it, the more I think with that d, and that crummy division....they’re going for it....I don’t entirely blame them.
 

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And that's not to say he would've succeeded anyway
woulda had a better shot at most any other team than us...given our situation. Maybe with Gibbs as a coach. Lord knows he sat QBs forever...cue Jason Campbell
 

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Me either tbh. I mean cmon, QB3... sure we still want ya...
Yeah right.... and did I see right that he wasn’t even taking reps in practice yesterday??

I mean the eagles are decimated and the giants are terrible......

the cowboys can score 6000 points but not stop anyone....

the skins can stop ppl but can’t score....if one of those teams figures out how to semi right the other side of the ship...

I also know fans had high hope for AGG....buts he’s a project....
Call me crazy.... but if they could also find another wr via trade or FA.....AB line1...
 

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Leaks of benching him.
Yep. That’s a favorite tool of this stoopid franchise to perpetuate the dysfunctional LOL REDSKINS narrative. Fire in public, don’t be man enuff to have tuff convos in private where they belong :L
 
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