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Live look at Patrick Mahomes

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Why all the dak talk? He's nowhere near the level of Mahomes
 

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Why all the dak talk? He's nowhere near the level of Mahomes

Becuase that's how contracts work in the NFL. When top tier players raise the bar of what they are paid it also raises the bar of what the players under them then ask to get paid.
 

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I think it is amazing that the Cowboys haven't locked down Dak to be honest. They should realize that these QB contracts are only going to keep getting bigger and bigger.

 

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I just read 400M+
 

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Is he wealthy enough to post here now?
 

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Russell Wilson is the highest paid QB right now making about 31MM a year.

Whatever Mahomes signed is at least 35, probably over 40 average.
 

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Sounds like it may be tied to a % of the cap.
Still, if it is, the benchmark going forward on that contract is to hit a 35-40 million number to start, I think.

And let's say 4 years from now he's making a percentage of the cap, but a few other QB's come in and blow him away.

He's liable to get salty. We've seen it before. Players seem to stop being happy with their long-term deals when they see others pass them. He'll absolutely be a benchmark for others to leapfrog. It's rare to find the (relatively) selfless player who will take less to build a team.
 

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I'm happy to see they have the contract done, but 12 more years? Wow... He won't last that long if he is still trying to play like he does now. The Chiefs need money to protect him better.
 

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Still, if it is, the benchmark going forward on that contract is to hit a 35-40 million number to start, I think.

And let's say 4 years from now he's making a percentage of the cap, but a few other QB's come in and blow him away.

He's liable to get salty. We've seen it before. QB's seem to stop being happy with their long-term deals when they see others pass them. He'll absolutely be a benchmark for others to leapfrog. It's rare to find the (relatively) selfless player who will take less to build a team.
I've actually built a spreadsheet on my old laptop of every QB's contract up until 2018 of the % of the cap they received. They keep to a pretty confined range. Below 20%. What goes up is the cap, normally. COVID might throw a monkey wrench in here, but Mahomes isn't getting "passed" if he's getting ~20% of the cap over the life of the contract unless another Mahomes/Rodgers level talent enters the league and outperforms Mahomes somehow. Which... I don't think many believe Jackson is that at this point.
 

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The smartest thing the Chiefs could do is offer him 20-24% of the cap per year.


For reference 20% of this year's cap would be 39.6M and 24% of the cap would be 47.6M.


Dak gonna get paiiiid.
 

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For reference 20% of this year's cap would be 39.6M and 24% of the cap would be 47.6M.


Dak gonna get paiiiid.
I think most people would consider 20% a victory. That's still king of the QB market, especially when it's not relieved by an inflating cap, but Mahomes can kind of dictate terms here at this point. There's no serious negotiation precedent to be invoked against him.
 

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I've actually built a spreadsheet on my old laptop of every QB's contract up until 2018 of the % of the cap they received. They keep to a pretty confined range. Below 20%. What goes up is the cap, normally. COVID might throw a monkey wrench in here, but Mahomes isn't getting "passed" if he's getting ~20% of the cap unless another Mahomes/Rodgers level talent enters the league and outperforms Mahomes somehow. Which... I don't think many believe Jackson is that at this point.
If he's getting an explicit percentage, the next blockbuster QB contracts start to come in at that percentage +1%. That's how it works. That's just the way I see this shaking out. Until the NFL slams a hard % of cap on any one player in the next CBA. A Percent of cap would be a first for a player, right? That will instantly be the target for new players to beat. Not to just peg to.
 

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If he's getting an explicit percentage, the next blockbuster QB contracts start comes in at that percentage +1%. That's how it works. That's just the way I see this shaking out. Until the NFL slams a hard % of cap on any one player in the next CBA. A Percent of cap would be a first for a player, right? That will instantly be the target for new players to beat. Not to just peg to.
In a hard cap, I wouldn't be so convinced. It's not exactly like agents couldn't do basic arithmetic up until now in regards to the percentage of the cap. The dirty little trick is players "weren't" passing players, they just enjoyed inflation of the cap.
 

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In a hard cap, I wouldn't be so convinced. It's not exactly like agents couldn't do basic arithmetic up until now in regards to the percentage of the cap. The dirty little trick is players "weren't" passing players, they just enjoyed inflation of the cap.
For instance, Megatron remains an enormous outlier to this day in terms of the percentage of the cap he received amongst WR's. Nobody has come remotely close accounting for the inflation of the cap.
 
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