Pat Forde's realignment plan.

[Olyduck]

All 10 conference champions, plus two at-large teams chosen by a selection committee, advance to the expanded College Football Playoff. The teams are seeded by the committee. The top four receive a first-round bye, while seeds 5–8 host seeds 9–12 at their home stadiums the first weekend of December. Quarterfinals are played the next week at the home stadiums of seeds 1–4. The semifinals and championship game are conducted under the current CFP format.

The part we over looked. so who would be in? Based on actual conference or division championships as well as rankings i have it as.
Georgia Ohio State, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oregon, Utah, Oklahoma, LSU, Penn State, At large Baylor and Florida.
Based on final rankings of last season we would have first round bye for LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma
if we then go with 5-12, 6-11 7-10 8-9 match ups based on final rankings of the committee last season

Georgia vs Notre Dame to play Oklahoma
Oregon vs Utah to play Clemson
Baylor vs Penn State to play Ohio State
Wisconsin vs Florida to play LSU

last season we actually got a couple of these so im gonna go ahead and drop Notre Dame and Utah.
but who you all got Baylor vs Penn State and Wisconsin vs Florida?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

College football is driven by the eyeballs on the set week in and out. The rivalries, the history. Taking a big dump on all of that for the sake of some streamlined 12 team playoff and reduction of travel costs would cost the sport significant revenue.

As a buckeye fan their schedule loses conference games with Penn State, Wisconsin etc and are replaced with 7 MAC teams? Come on.

The Southwest has 8 current power conf. Teams and others have as little as 3.

 

[Olyduck]

College football is driven by the eyeballs on the set week in and out. The rivalries, the history. Taking a big dump on all of that for the sake of some streamlined 12 team playoff and reduction of travel costs would cost the sport significant revenue.

As a buckeye fan their schedule loses conference games with Penn State, Wisconsin etc and are replaced with 7 MAC teams? Come on.

The Southwest has 8 current power conf. Teams and others have as little as 3.

6 mac 1 american

 

[Olyduck]

College football is driven by the eyeballs on the set week in and out. The rivalries, the history. Taking a big dump on all of that for the sake of some streamlined 12 team playoff and reduction of travel costs would cost the sport significant revenue.

As a buckeye fan their schedule loses conference games with Penn State, Wisconsin etc and are replaced with 7 MAC teams? Come on.

The Southwest has 8 current power conf. Teams and others have as little as 3.

A lot of rivalries stayed. Wisconsin isnt an every year anywat

 

[Olyduck]

College football is driven by the eyeballs on the set week in and out. The rivalries, the history. Taking a big dump on all of that for the sake of some streamlined 12 team playoff and reduction of travel costs would cost the sport significant revenue.

As a buckeye fan their schedule loses conference games with Penn State, Wisconsin etc and are replaced with 7 MAC teams? Come on.

The Southwest has 8 current power conf. Teams and others have as little as 3.

None had 3

 

[Stakesarehigh]

6 mac 1 american

So again Ohio State goes from playing nine power conference teams a year to at most like 6?

How would this improve their revenue stream

 

[Stakesarehigh]

FBS doesn't need the lower revenue schools. All this system is doing is trying to prop them up further than they already are.

 

[PhilSimms11]

No Utah?

I have them in a refurbished WAC that I haven't posted yet.

 

[PhilSimms11]

im just confused as to why 7 conferences with non uniform number of teams.

You mean the Big 8 with 9 and the SWC with 9? It's hard to do. I didn't want to just add a team to make them an even 10. I guess I could since it's far fetched any, but DAMMIT, I have too much integrity for that.

 

[CJH9972]

If we are going to be unrealistic, drop leagues altogether and have everyone play different schedules every year based on the previous season's standings.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Take the 64 power 5 and add 16 of the best G5

make four super conferences split into 2 ten team divisions each. One OOC and two cross division games and a conf champ game. The winners of the conf champ games get home field for first round of playoffs the losers play road games against a non conf opponent.

Reduce the amount of players allowed to travel for road games and make the divisions geographically sensible.

Probably eliminate the ACC and have them absorbed into the BIG and SEC mostly

 

[Olyduck]

Take the 64 power 5 and add 16 of the best G5

make four super conferences split into 2 ten team divisions each. One OOC and two cross division games and a conf champ game. The winners of the conf champ games get home field for first round of playoffs the losers play road games against a non conf opponent.

Reduce the amount of players allowed to travel for road games and make the divisions geographically sensible.

Probably eliminate the ACC and have them absorbed into the BIG and SEC mostly

I dont feel like that would be the best way

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I dont feel like that would be the best way

It's all about maximizing tv contracts. Creating all these mini conferences with crap teams would devalue those.

And I'm struggling to understand how having less premium games in season and eliminating the CCG would somehow lead to more revenue because they add a few playoff games?

Not to beat a dead horse but ohio state would have Michigan and Sparty to prevent them from winning a league title every single year and would have to face 7 current G5's and Indiana/Purdue. Sweet. I'm bubbling with enthusiasm over here.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

College football is driven by the eyeballs on the set week in and out. The rivalries, the history. Taking a big dump on all of that for the sake of some streamlined 12 team playoff and reduction of travel costs would cost the sport significant revenue.

As a buckeye fan their schedule loses conference games with Penn State, Wisconsin etc and are replaced with 7 MAC teams? Come on.

The Southwest has 8 current power conf. Teams and others have as little as 3.

You like mine then right....

 

[Stakesarehigh]

So again throwing out numbers...the BIG tv contract is 2.64 billion (with a B) dollars

Kent State and Toledo (my alum) getting you that cash?

The SEC is 330 mil per year

Again....Louisiana Monroe and Troy?

They just weigh down the system man.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Pac North
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
Boise
Fresno
Nevada
Wyoming
Hawaii
UNLV

Pac South
USC
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
Texas Tech
San Diego State
BYU
Utah State
New Mexico
Colorado State

Upper MidWest
Wisconsin
Indiana
Notre Dame
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Northern Illinois
Ball State
Miami(OH)
Cincinnati
Toledo
North Dakota State

MidWest
Nebraska
Iowa
Iowa State
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State
Illinois
Memphis
Middle Tennessee
Tulsa
Air Force
WKentucky

Mid American
Ohio State
Louisville
Michigan
Michigan State
West Virginia
Pitt
WMichigan
EMichigan
CMichigan
Ohio
Akron
Kent St

North Atlantic
Boston College
Syracuse
Penn State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Rutgers
Maryland
Marshall
Uconn
Army
UMass
Buffalo

Mid Atlantic
Duke
North Carolina
Clemson
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vandy
Kentucky
Navy
Old Dominion
App State
East Carolina
Temple

Atlantic South
North Carolina State
Wake Forest
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Florida
Miami
Georgia Southern
FIU
FAU
UCF
USF
Charlotte

Sun Belt
Florida State
Auburn
Alabama
Ole Miss
Miss State
LSU
Arkansas
Tulane
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
UAB
Georgia State

Southwestern
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Baylor
TCU
Rice
Houston
La Tech
SMU
North Texas
Louisiana

I like the idea of a PAC north and south conferences and with boise being in there, but let me ask some questions and/or give some critiques - maybe you can inform me on the reasoning... I am thinking mostly in geographical terms.

PAC North
Hawaii in the north? They are more southern than San Diego St.
No San Jose State?


PAC South
What's with Texas Tech?
No New Mexico St?

Upper Midwest
Perhaps I am looking at this from too much of a geographical perspective, but NDSU and no bowling green?

Midwest
Seems awkward that WKU, MTSU, and Memphis are in - but they are further away than arkansas, arkansas st, okie schools.

Mac
I think Louisville throws it out a bit - maybe sustitute with Marshall. Then it will have all of michigan, the rest of ohio, all of west virginia, and pitt lol.

North Atlantic
Marshall, but no Buffalo or Temple or Navy?

Mid Atlantic
What the hell is Temple and Navy doing there? lol
Vandy also seems way out of the way lol.
Also dividing up all the north carolina schools when they are so close together seems odd.

Atlantic South
Charlotte but no Georgia St?
All the florida schools but not fsu?

Sun Belt
Georgia St but no Troy? Troy is actually pretty decent G5 squad.

Southwestern
No Louisiana lafayette, UTEP, UTSA, Texas St?



I respect your opinion and what you put into this, but I am curious about how you came to this.

 

[Deep Creek]

College football is driven by the eyeballs on the set week in and out.

It's all about maximizing tv contracts.

I agree. And it seems to be shifting from regional demand to national demand. Every conference has games that are only attractive regionally or to us die hard CFB fans that'll watch a game no matter what. Every conference also has some teams that are attractive to a national audience regardless of who they are playing.

Let's use the Northeast or the West Coast where the average fan isn't as rabid as other areas.

They are a lot more likely to tune into see Ohio State play either Purdue or Northwestern than they are to see Purdue vs Northwestern. Same in the Big 12. The casual left coast or northeast fan might watch Oklahoma vs Texas Tech or Baylor but not Texas Tech vs Baylor. Examples could be drawn for every conference.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I agree. And it seems to be shifting from regional demand to national demand. Every conference has games that are only attractive regionally or to us die hard CFB fans that'll watch a game no matter what. Every conference also has some teams that are attractive to a national audience regardless of who they are playing.

Let's use the Northeast or the West Coast where the average fan isn't as rabid as other areas.

They are a lot more likely to tune into see Ohio State play either Purdue or Northwestern than they are to see Purdue vs Northwestern. Same in the Big 12. The casual left coast or northeast fan might watch Oklahoma vs Texas Tech or Baylor but not Texas Tech vs Baylor. Examples could be drawn for every conference.

Yep

And I'm not trying to be difficult here but if the convo is being financially stable increasing the amount of Navy/U Conn games isn't going to generate much by the way of dollars in the pot.

We should be looking to increase high profile matchups not decrease.

And like I said quit sending 75 kids on a plane or on the road. They aren't all playing. They don't need 75 suited up. Make due and save money so you can have a women's tennis team.

(Which while we are at it if we are talking fiscal responsibility their travel should be looked at also)

 

[78Cyclones]

If we are going to be unrealistic, drop leagues altogether and have everyone play different schedules every year based on the previous season's standings.

I like your idea. I often thought about this within a conference in determining rotating games from the other division, but I really like your idea for FBS P5 Football. Not interested in the G5 mix though. EMU, CMU and WMU for ISU and Iowa every year? No thanks. Conferences are great and needed mostly for the Olympic sports and basketball, but I love the idea of all being Independent for Football. Maybe protect 4 Games for rivalry / geographical sake and have the other 8 games be totally random and determined like the NFL does. Something like that.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I like your idea. I often thought about this within a conference in determining rotating games from the other division, but I really like your idea for FBS P5 Football. Not interested in the G5 mix though. EMU, CMU and WMU for ISU and Iowa every year? No thanks. Conferences are great and needed mostly for the Olympic sports and basketball, but I love the idea of all being Independent for Football. Maybe protect 4 Games for rivalry / geographical sake and have the other 8 games be totally random and determined like the NFL does. Something like that.

And I'd also be good with that plan with the 80 or so teams I mentioned.

You just add filler with the other almost 50 teams. They should be on another level.

I'd actually have way more interest in Toledo competing for a sub FBS title than watching them be mediocre in a league well above their means.

Start another division with the other 50 G5's and the top 25 or so FCS.

Then I'm interested.


Toledo in a 16 team playoff? Hell yes