247Sports 15 Toughest Schedules

[ralphiewvu]

So, you like going to see the following play:

New Mexico
San Jose State
Fresno State (many times)
Rice
Nevada (multiple times)
Hawaii
Arkansas State
Utah State
Western Michigan

Because that's the "no name" teams you've played or will play OOC.

And, our pussy scheduling, as you put it, still ends up with most of our teams having the toughest SOS, which is what the thread addresses.

Let’s be honest here, it’s not the OOC scheduling that puts the SEC on top of SoS. Your conference play helps immensely with that.

 

[LawDawg]

Let’s be honest here, it’s not the OOC scheduling that puts the SEC on top of SoS. Your conference play helps immensely with that.

Totally agree, which is why I am not concerned about OOC for the most part. That, and look at my post above where I list the OOC for UGA, Bama, and LSU - it's not like the cream of the SEC crop is dodging tough OOC games.

I guess my point in the post to which you responded was that if we played a PAC schedule, we could surely play a more difficult OOC schedule. Some schools use OOC to make up for weak IC. Some school use weaker OOC to make up for stronger IC. And some top schools are scheduling touch IC and OOC.

 

[LawDawg]

Again I’m not criticizing you if you are complaining about people playing them. But complaining about when people play them Regardless of if you are a season ticket holder or not is BS. I hate that WVU plays any FCS team but I’m sure as shit not going to complain about the SEC playing them in November while my team plays them in September.

Agree with you and socialjim ... I don't like the crappy games, but it does allow part of the fanbase to go to games they otherwise wouldn't go to, and it helps funds those programs. But, I don't ever go to those games. That said, I've travelled away to ASU, Colorado, ND, UNC in Atlanta, LSU, Ole Miss, and many more over the years. I go to all the big away games.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Totally agree, which is why I am not concerned about OOC for the most part. That, and look at my post above where I list the OOC for UGA, Bama, and LSU - it's not like the cream of the SEC crop is dodging tough OOC games.

I guess my point in the post to which you responded was that if we played a PAC schedule, we could surely play a more difficult OOC schedule. Some schools use OOC to make up for weak IC. Some school use weaker OOC to make up for stronger IC. And some top schools are scheduling touch IC and OOC.

Playing one tough one is fine and dandy but when the other 3 are patsys it doesn’t give anyone the right to claim superiority in OOC scheduling. Not that you were just in general. Georgia is the only SEC team this year playing two P5’s OOC. I know I know just because it’s a P5 doesn’t mean they are good but more often then not it means it'll be a better matchup.

No doubt the SEC is tough, my point was saying sec teams are scheduling great to make their SoS great is absolute bullshit when most of the SoS comes on the back of conferences games. (Especially in the west)

 

[ralphiewvu]

Agree with you and socialjim ... I don't like the crappy games, but it does allow part of the fanbase to go to games they otherwise wouldn't go to, and it helps funds those programs. But, I don't ever go to those games. That said, I've travelled away to ASU, Colorado, ND, UNC in Atlanta, LSU, Ole Miss, and many more over the years. I go to all the big away games.

Most teams play an FCS team so it is what it is. But complaining about when it’s played is such BS regardless of if you are a season ticket holder or not.

 

[socaljim242]

Most teams play an FCS team so it is what it is. But complaining about when it’s played is such BS regardless of if you are a season ticket holder or not.

Its bullshit. Its a late season extra bye but with a W after it. There's a reason they put that game there and it isn;t so "some fans can afford to go see their team play".

 

[cwalke3408]

Its bullshit. Its a late season extra bye but with a W after it. There's a reason they put that game there and it isn;t so "some fans can afford to go see their team play".

It don't matter if you eat your cupcake before or after dinner

Your SOS ranking is going to be the same regardless

 

[Rolltide94]

well i named more than 1 school and could have added a few more

Jesus H Christ...you are osmium dense. Name them all, it doesn't matter, the bottom 25% can't play the top 75% nor would they want to. Do you think Illinois is going to schedule Alabama and Clemson in the same season? Hell, if you force them to play 2 P5's the Kansas and Oregon States of the world are more likely to schedule each other...just like they do now. Kansas doesn't have Alabama and Ohio State on their future schedule, they have Duke and Illinois.

 

[Rolltide94]

I dont know. Pride maybe. Who in the hell wants to see their team play some no name school. At the end of tbe season and pay for it. I actually go to games and I wouldn't want to see that shit.
I'm sure there's a lot of things conferences could do to help teams get better records. Like if somehow USC never played Oregon and Washington for 5 or 6 years or the other way around. But that's bullshit pussy scheduling. I'd rather lose a few games playing a decent schedule then go for that crap

....and yet, Alabama's average Sagarin Strength of Schedule for the Saban era is 17.23 and USC's is 20.15. Seems like USC fans might not get the shitty games, but they don't get as many of the good ones either. Of course, Alabama has also won 30 more games over that span too, so you not only don't you play a better overall schedule, but you lose a whole lot more too...double suck. Pussy scheduling and pussy results...nice.

 

[Rolltide94]

Pac 12 doesnt count BYU as P5

Only because you are the only conference that doesn't require your teams to play a P5 OOC. Change that and I guarantee BYU becomes P5 status immediately.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Its bullshit. Its a late season extra bye but with a W after it. There's a reason they put that game there and it isn;t so "some fans can afford to go see their team play".

Its mostly a bye whenever ya play it. Considering USC has hardly ever if never played an FCS if I were you I’d have more issues with people everywhere playing them then actually when they play them.

 

[Dalton]

Only because you are the only conference that doesn't require your teams to play a P5 OOC. Change that and I guarantee BYU becomes P5 status immediately.

I think they do require one P5.

 

[Rolltide94]

I think they do require one P5.

If that were the case, somebody should have told Arizona St, Utah, Washington State and UCLA. They have one P5 between them for the next 24 OOC games.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

If that were the case, somebody should have told Arizona St, Utah, Washington State and UCLA. They have one P5 between them for the next 24 OOC games.

 

[Rolltide94]

So, you each play an extra P5 game in conference, but you don't play a full P5 game more than any conference that plays 8 conference games, but we're the ones that don't have any balls, lol.

1/3 of your conference doesn't play a OOC P5 opponent in the next two years. Washington State hasn't played one since 2013/14 when they did that home & home with Rutgers, lol. But Rutgers was like really good or something when they scheduled them, or whatever it is you say. Since you went to 9 conference games, at least 4 Pac-12 teams pussy out and don't play a P5 OOC, then brag about playing more P5's...while going 4-21 over the last 4 years against ranked OOC P5 teams....Tiny little balls indeed, I hear that is common among the ince$t crowd and few things are more incestuous than a Pac-12 schedule.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

So, you each play an extra P5 game in conference, but you don't play a full P5 game more than any conference that plays 8 conference games, but we're the ones that don't have any balls, lol.

1/3 of your conference doesn't play a OOC P5 opponent in the next two years. Washington State hasn't played one since 2013/14 when they did that home & home with Rutgers, lol. But Rutgers was like really good or something when they scheduled them, or whatever it is you say. Since you went to 9 conference games, at least 4 Pac-12 teams pussy out and don't play a P5 OOC, then brag about playing more P5's...while going 4-21 over the last 4 years against ranked OOC P5 teams....Tiny little balls indeed, I hear that is common among the ince$t crowd and few things are more incestuous than a Pac-12 schedule.

The PAC averages 9.8 regular season P5 opponents, the SEC averages 9.

 

[Deep Creek]

I'm just not a fan of it. Like I said I don't like seeing FBS teams beat up on smaller FCS teams.

I'm not a fan of it either. But it sure seems like there are a lot of fans that feel the opposite way the two of us do. They pay good money for tickets to watch those mismatches. Those fans are probably descendants of the Roman crowds that witnessed the Christians being thrown to the lions.

 

[Wamu]

I'm not a fan of it either. But it sure seems like there are a lot of fans that feel the opposite way the two of us do. They pay good money for tickets to watch those mismatches. Those fans are probably descendants of the Roman crowds that witnessed the Christians being thrown to the lions.

You're right that some fans of teams that play FCS opponents don't have an issue with it. It's a topic that won't be agreed upon. But at the very least get those games outta the way early in the season. Playing one of them late in the season is nothing more than a scrimmage before a big game the following week.

 

[Deep Creek]

It don't matter if you eat your cupcake before or after dinner
Your SOS ranking is going to be the same regardless

IMO, the "grind" or "stretches" of tough games are the issue. Those can be very inconsistent within conferences...again IMO. Where the byes/cupcakes are placed in stretches is more of a factor than if they are played early or late in the season. In looking at schedules of all conferences teams at the same time, it sure looks like some teams have tougher/longer stretches without a break than others.

Examples: Ole Miss has a three week stretch of Auburn, LSU and Bama back to back to back. LSU finishes the year Alabama, South Carolina, Auburn and Texas A&M. Can't find another SEC that has that kind of "grind" without either a bye week or a cupcake sandwiched in there somewhere.

 

[Gatorchip]

The PAC averages 9.8 regular season P5 opponents, the SEC averages 9.

You missed his first sentence. PAC has one extra conference game, yet 1 is more than 0.8. Why isn't it over 10?

When is your annual thread by the way? Did I miss it?