Why is Gruden so hot to get rid of Carr?

[Dolemite censored]

My guess is Mark Davis wants to make a big splash driving up hype for their first season in Vegas.

Gruden has never been a QB mentor. Probably a personality disconnect.

 

[Anointed One]

The only guy that blew up under him was Gannon and to a lesser extent Brad Johnson

Pretty impressive with how well Gruden did with 2 journeyman QBs.

 

[Anointed One]

I would rather have Andy Dalton

Honestly, he would fit the mold and style of QB Gruden likes...

 

[megalodon30]

This is who you guys need

Straight up man

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Just keep him away from The Cheesecake Factory.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Just keep him away from The Cheesecake Factory.

Their menu is so big I missed "the parking lot blowjob" entree

 

[mrschaney]

Because, out there, available is "Rocket"

 

[tducey]

Yeah, it surprises me as well. Carr's not that bad a QB IMO.

 

[SteelersPride]

Because, out there, available is "Rocket"

you can see how big of a market there is for him, teams are lining up

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Gruden is slowly improving the Raiders, wouldn't surprise me if they're a playoff team before we know it... The guy knows football ... Maybe something about Carr he doesn't like ? Something...

 

[SteelersPride]

Gruden is slowly improving the Raiders, wouldn't surprise me if they're a playoff team before we know it... The guy knows football ... Maybe something about Carr he doesn't like ? Something...

Raiders I posted a thread about, were they really better?? Look at their wins, look at their losses......

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

It's pretty f'ing obvious...

 

[SteelersPride]

It's pretty f'ing obvious...

Right!!!

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Raiders I posted a thread about, were they really better?? Look at their wins, look at their losses......

Right, but they showed some improvements, battling more in games, hanging around, executing better... If Gruden can nail this years draft they could be playoff bound.... Maybe ...

 

[SteelersPride]

Right, but they showed some improvements, battling more in games, hanging around, executing better... If Gruden can nail this years draft they could be playoff bound.... Maybe ...

They did but again, against a really poor schedule.

 

[mrschaney]

you can see how big of a market there is for him, teams are lining up

Boy, they sure are. At least 8 teams vying for his services, the last I looked.

 

[SteelersPride]

Boy, they sure are. At least 8 teams vying for his services, the last I looked.

Link.

 

[richig07]

Because he does dumb shit. Like throwing the ball out of the back of the end zone, on 4th down, in a game they could have won. He cares more about his own stats than he does his team, or wins.

They were down by multiple scores in the final 2 minutes. It was an onside kick situation. A bit unfair to dismiss him entirely off of that.

I don't know where the "selfish" thing comes from. He comes off as quite the opposite to me.

 

[richig07]

Not sure how much of this is all media dtiven or if there is actually something to it but the knock on Carr appears to be that he is a good QB at times but the team will never reach the ultimate goal with him. A very similar player to Cousins. Good stats when the talent is around him but lacks the "it" factor to win it all. I think they want a big splash for Vegas and Carr is very vanilla to them.

Except...

Carr has had really good stats with a dog shit cast. Then, when the team was good? The one year? He went 12-3 and was nose to nose with Ryan to win the MVP before getting hurt.

 

[Peter Gozintite]

They were down by multiple scores in the final 2 minutes. It was an onside kick situation. A bit unfair to dismiss him entirely off of that.

I don't know where the "selfish" thing comes from. He comes off as quite the opposite to me.

It was an example. The local guy that covers the raiders said there was rumblings about that particular play. Regardless of what else needed to be done, without that conversion, there is no fucking chance. There are other examples. Gruden has never been quoted as saying this, because he is smarter than wanting to deal with it. it wasnt some total dismissal, due to one single play, and that is the only reason gruden wants to move on. dont be a douche rich. This isnt the bears board.

 

[richig07]

Yes. Lol

but Carr his and Jimmy's numbers are similar in regards to aggression, air yards etc. short game Manager

Well, I'm not saying he's a great QB. I'm saying he's "good" and would be an upgrade to the majority of NFL teams.