Kaepernick to workout for teams

[HaroldSeattle]

LOL. If we are just talking about having a job, any job, such as a backup job, I don't think that's true

Don't forget the media circus that would of come with him though.

 

[Robotech]

Don't forget the media circus that would of come with him though.

Yeah, it's basically all non-football reasons that he doesn't have a job, so all the narratives about his asking price, turning down job offers, and not being good enough don't ring true to me. The truth seems to be that the reasons he isn't employed are the fear of the backlash and the media circus/distraction, but if people can get over what Michael Vick did, then I think backlash and media circus/distraction would probably die down as well after a while. Kaepernick has never committed a crime as far as I know, so he shouldn't be judged more harshly than Vick, Kareem Hunt, Adrian Peterson, and others who actually committed a crime.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

NFL will for give a lot if you have tons of talent, if you don't have that talent the interest level drops dramatically. Time to just move on from the hub bub that is Colin Kaepernick. It's over and done with except for the shouting and hopefully that stops soon because it's annoying and old Kaep just isn't worth it.

 

[Robotech]

Don't forget the media circus that would of come with him though.

Another possibility is that the NFL and the owners are just spiteful at this point, and that there really isn't a concern about backlash and the media circus, as they've dealt with that with other players already. This Saturday workout looks like a sham, but Kaepernick basically has no choice but to go through with it if he really wants any chance at getting back in the NFL.

Anyway, I don't really feel bad for Kaepernick, as I said earlier in this thread even though I think he is being unfairly excluded from the NFL (he actually didn't violate any workplace rule, as the NFL still doesn't have a rule that a player must stand for the anthem, and others who kneeled and others who commited crimes are employed). Kaepernick seems to have a pretty good life. He probably has millions of dollars. His parents seem to be really solid people. A lot of people hate him, but a lot of people like him as well. And he has a beautiful lady.

 

[Robotech]

NFL will for give a lot if you have tons of talent, if you don't have that talent the interest level drops dramatically. Time to just move on from the hub bub that is Colin Kaepernick. It's over and done with except for the shouting and hopefully that stops soon because it's annoying and old Kaep just isn't worth it.

For me I think about the American ideal that this is the land of opportunity and that if you are good enough for a job, you should be able to get a job. Unfortunately for Kaepernick, there is no serious competition to the NFL, so he wouldn't be able to get a comparable job elsewhere. Clearly, Kaepernick is good enough to at least be a backup QB somewhere in the NFL. Guys who have crashed out as starters, such as Bortles, Tyrod Taylor, and RG3 are backup QB's. I get it that a lot of people hate him, but others kneeled too or did much worse, and he didn't break any workplace rule or commit any crime, so it just seems unfair to deny him of a job if that's the reason NFL teams won't hire him.

 

[Yo Tee]

And the fucker turned it down. He would've gotten something like $8M for 2 years, but refused because it would've been a massive pay cut from the salary height of his career.

Because...he was...already on a team? He refused it because, at the time, Trevor Siemien was the starting QB and Kaep was already a starter so why take a pay cut to be a starter for one team when you're already a starter for another team? You want the dude to CHOOSE to make less money for no reason?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

For me I think about the American ideal that this is the land of opportunity and that if you are good enough for a job, you should be able to get a job. Unfortunately for Kaepernick, there is no serious competition to the NFL, so he wouldn't be able to get a comparable job elsewhere. Clearly, Kaepernick is good enough to at least be a backup QB somewhere in the NFL. Guys who have crashed out as starters, such as Bortles, Tyrod Taylor, and RG3 are backup QB's. I get it that a lot of people hate him, but others kneeled too or did much worse, and he didn't break any workplace rule or commit any crime, so it just seems unfair to deny him of a job if that's the reason NFL teams won't hire him.

At one point he had a market, but he over valued himself and now the opportunities have passed.
Now going back before the kneeling when the Broncos wanted to trade for him. It was already obvious the 49ers had lost faith in him and were going to cut him, but he wasn't willing to take the pay cut that the Broncos wanted because he thought the market would be there for him. Kind of a delusional perception of his value by Kaep right there. At that point the 49ers were not very good and if they didn't want him his market wasn't going to be robust in any case. I'd say his market was being a back up for some team even then, but he went out on free agent market under the perception that he would draw interest as a starting QB. So he was over valuing himself from the get go , never mind what the kneeling did for his value.
Too much ado is being made about him not landing a job. It was self inflicted and time to move on.

 

[Robotech]

At one point he had a market, but he over valued himself and now the opportunities have passed.
Now going back before the kneeling when the Broncos wanted to trade for him. It was already obvious the 49ers had lost faith in him and were going to cut him, but he wasn't willing to take the pay cut that the Broncos wanted because he thought the market would be there for him. Kind of a delusional perception of his value by Kaep right there. At that point the 49ers were not very good and if they didn't want him his market wasn't going to be robust in any case. I'd say his market was being a back up for some team even then, but he went out on free agent market under the perception that he would draw interest as a starting QB. So he was over valuing himself from the get go , never mind what the kneeling did for his value.
Too much ado is being made about him not landing a job. It was self inflicted and time to move on.

If people really could move on, I believe he would had another NFL job opportunity by now because he's likely better than a lot of current backups and better than some starters. Some NFL team would've at least given him a shot to see if he could help them even if that is just starting one game. But in reality, a lot of people haven't moved on from the kneeling issue.

 

[Mofo]

Because...he was...already on a team? He refused it because, at the time, Trevor Siemien was the starting QB and Kaep was already a starter so why take a pay cut to be a starter for one team when you're already a starter for another team? You want the dude to CHOOSE to make less money for no reason?

He wasn’t the starter. Chip Kelly had named the late, great Blaine Gabbert as the starter before camp opened. It was widely expected that Kaepernick would instead be cut from the roster prior to the regular season start, something the GM later confirmed.

So Kaepernick was about to be cut from being a backup QB due $19M on one of the worst teams in the NFL. He would’ve been insanely stupid to think Denver wanted to give him the starter’s job.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

If people really could move on, I believe he would had another NFL job opportunity by now because he's likely better than a lot of current backups and better than some starters. Some NFL team would've at least given him a shot to see if he could help them even if that is just starting one game. But in reality, a lot of people haven't moved on from the kneeling issue.

Oh it's true a lot people haven't move on from the kneeling. Guess I'm one because I think he inflicted massive amount of damage to a sport I love by forcing political and social issues down everyone throats. I've always despised Kaepernick, but what he did to the sport and my love of football isn't something I'll forgive.
That being said I find it highly unlikely he's better then any backup QB in the league and do believe he would totally suck at 31 and being out of the league as long as he has. He was always more a athlete playing the QB position then a player talented at playing the position and his athletic abilities had already eroded while on the 49ers. IMO if he actually landed a job and got the opportunity to get on the field he would be a total embarrassment. He was always more interested in lifting weight then studying film. Was never exceptional at going thru progression with his reads, rather a one look and either pass or run despite much tutelage from various coaches.
In short the pleas for him to get signed as a back up are rather foolish IMO.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Oh it's true a lot people haven't move on from the kneeling. Guess I'm one because I think he inflicted massive amount of damage to a sport I love by forcing political and social issues down everyone throats. I've always despised Kaepernick, but what he did to the sport and my love of football isn't something I'll forgive.
That being said I find it highly unlikely he's better then any backup QB in the league and do believe he would totally suck at 31 and being out of the league as long as he has. He was always more a athlete playing the QB position then a player talented at playing the position and his athletic abilities had already eroded while on the 49ers. IMO if he actually landed a job and got the opportunity to get on the field he would be a total embarrassment. He was always more interested in lifting weight then studying film. Was never exceptional at going thru progression with his reads, rather a one look and either pass or run despite much tutelage from various coaches.
In short the pleas for him to get signed as a back up are rather foolish IMO.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Kap.was not the starter at the time. That was an open issue

Because...he was...already on a team? He refused it because, at the time, Trevor Siemien was the starting QB and Kaep was already a starter so why take a pay cut to be a starter for one team when you're already a starter for another team? You want the dude to CHOOSE to make less money for no reason?

 

[Robotech]

Oh it's true a lot people haven't move on from the kneeling. Guess I'm one because I think he inflicted massive amount of damage to a sport I love by forcing political and social issues down everyone throats. I've always despised Kaepernick, but what he did to the sport and my love of football isn't something I'll forgive.
That being said I find it highly unlikely he's better then any backup QB in the league and do believe he would totally suck at 31 and being out of the league as long as he has. He was always more a athlete playing the QB position then a player talented at playing the position and his athletic abilities had already eroded while on the 49ers. IMO if he actually landed a job and got the opportunity to get on the field he would be a total embarrassment. He was always more interested in lifting weight then studying film. Was never exceptional at going thru progression with his reads, rather a one look and either pass or run despite much tutelage from various coaches.
In short the pleas for him to get signed as a back up are rather foolish IMO.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the issue of whether he is better than any backup QB in the league. If he was judged only by football criteria, I believe some team would've have given him a shot by now even if it were just starting one game. He could totally go out there and suck, but that happens with a lot QB's who are signed just to make a spot start for a team dealing with injuries. In a normal situation in which a free agent QB is judged only by football criteria, I think it is likely that Kaepernick would've been one of the QB's signed to make a spot start in the last three seasons.

 

[Yo Tee]

Kap.was not the starter at the time. That was an open issue

Still, we're talking about offering him a contract after he left SF, not while he was there. So this conversation is mute as it doesn't pertain to the conversation, which, it still remains, MAYBE 1 team offered him a contract.

 

[Robotech]

Kap.was not the starter at the time. That was an open issue

Thanks for pointing that out. Kaepernick did end up as the starter by the end of the 2016-2017 season, as he started the final 11 games, so one could infer that Kaepernick probably believed he would ultimately be the Niners starting QB.

 

[SteelersPride]

I wish there was a live stream of this tommorow

 

[Robotech]

Still, we're talking about offering him a contract after he left SF, not while he was there. So this conversation is mute as it doesn't pertain to the conversation, which, it still remains, MAYBE 1 team offered him a contract.

Yeah, people keep bringing up the Denver thing when it seems pretty clear that we are talking about why Kaepernick can't get a job after the anthem protest.

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah, people keep bringing up the Denver thing when it seems pretty clear that we are talking about why Kaepernick can't get a job after the anthem protest.

So he couldn’t get a job prior to this, yet there is outrage when he can’t get a job after it?

 

[Robotech]

So he couldn’t get a job prior to this, yet there is outrage when he can’t get a job after it?

Well, he already had a job at that point, so . . .

 

[SteelersPride]

Well, he already had a job at that point, so . . .

Right, and it was unsuitable to him.