Zeke and Cowboys in trouble again

[Manster7588]

That still doesn’t mean salary. Without limitations on benefits. We already know “without limitations” has nothing to do with salary because the agents get paid for CBA salaries when players are tagged. Understand? So it isn’t “without limitations” on salaries because they get paid

With out EXCEPTION an agent isn't paid for items the CBA already dictates.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

It is collectively bargained but that says Collectively Bargained BENEFITS which is NOT their salary... it’s benefits.
Think about it. They pay agents for Collective Bargained franchise tag salary and it isn’t negotiated and the agent gets paid for that. So the agents 100% do get paid for collectively bargained salary but the don’t get paid for Collectively Bargained Benefits. Get it?

(3) As used in this Section 4(B), the term “compensation” shall be deemed to include only sala-
ries, signing bonuses, reporting bonuses, roster bonuses, Practice Squad salary in excess of the
minimum Practice Squad salary specified in Article 33 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement,
and any performance incentives earned by the player during the term of the contract (includ-
ing any option year) negotiated by the Contract Advisor. For example, and without limitation,
the term compensation shall not include any “honor” incentive bonuses (e.g., ALL PRO, PRO
BOWL, Rookie of the Year), or any collectively bargained benefits or other payments provided
for in the player’s individual contract.

I bolded the part you hung your hat on. (including any option year) then put in red the part right afterwards. That I am hung up on. negotiated by the Contract Advisor Which in a rookie contract the 5th year option the agent has no part in.

Then read
Every player selected in the first round of the NFL Draft will automatically have a Fifth-Year Option added in his contract. This option cannot be separately attached to the player contract.

This should tell you two things.
added in. makes it a 5 year contract
but for this conversation shows it is added to the agents contract. Not by the agent but by the NFL. Which would mean it was not negotiated by the contract advisor.
This is why I believe the agent wouldnt get paid for the 5th year. Otherwise he would be basically robbing the player money from the 5th year without ever doing anything for it. (or possibly even seeing it)

 

[Schmoopy1000]

And until it’s picked up it’s a 4 year contract. BOOM!

actually it is a 5 year contract unless the team declines (nullifies) the 5th year option. it is already apart of the contract. making it 5 years.

 

[handicappers]

actually it is a 5 year contract unless the team declines (nullifies) the 5th year option. it is already apart of the contract. making it 5 years.

BOOM

game over

 

[Pure Steel]

I believe it’s time for me to mention this, I work part time as a security guard at a local 7-11.....while working my shift I was gently shoved by Zeke.....I unfortunately fell down a flight of stairs and my shoes fell off.....We are prepared to sue everybody.....

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I completely understand the position and why my friend who was a scout for several div1 colleges said never once did we recruit a Center. Sort of like how NFL GMs have picked every single starting position in the top 10 for half a century but not one Center.

No you don't understand the position. It's not about draft position that's the importance of the position but keep digging in those heels even though everyone on the hoop has explained to you why. I see your scout and raise you a player that actually played on a D1 o-line. Now you have it top 10? Make up your mind cause first it was never first round, then top 20, then top 13 and now top 10. So if one gets picked top 10, are you going for top 5 next?

 

[handicappers]

No you don't understand the position. It's not about draft position that's the importance of the position but keep digging in those heels even though everyone on the hoop has explained to you why. I see your scout and raise you a player that actually played on a D1 o-line. Now you have it top 10? Make up your mind cause first it was never first round, then top 20, then top 13 and now top 10. So if one gets picked top 10, are you going for top 5 next?

He's going for "dumbass of year" award.

 

[Manster7588]

I believe it’s time for me to mention this, I work part time as a security guard at a local 7-11.....while working my shift I was gently shoved by Zeke.....I unfortunately fell down a flight of stairs and my shoes fell off.....We are prepared to sue everybody.....

Next time by better shoes

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

With out EXCEPTION an agent isn't paid for items the CBA already dictates.

And we know that isn’t true when it comes to salaries because agent get commission on franchise tags where the money is CBA negotiated.
Without exception for CBA benefits.

You already know they get paid when players are tagged and the CBA dictates that salary. Why do you keep ignoring that.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

(3) As used in this Section 4(B), the term “compensation” shall be deemed to include only sala-
ries, signing bonuses, reporting bonuses, roster bonuses, Practice Squad salary in excess of the
minimum Practice Squad salary specified in Article 33 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement,
and any performance incentives earned by the player during the term of the contract (includ-
ing any option year) negotiated by the Contract Advisor. For example, and without limitation,
the term compensation shall not include any “honor” incentive bonuses (e.g., ALL PRO, PRO
BOWL, Rookie of the Year), or any collectively bargained benefits or other payments provided
for in the player’s individual contract.

I bolded the part you hung your hat on. (including any option year) then put in red the part right afterwards. That I am hung up on. negotiated by the Contract Advisor Which in a rookie contract the 5th year option the agent has no part in.

Then read
Every player selected in the first round of the NFL Draft will automatically have a Fifth-Year Option added in his contract. This option cannot be separately attached to the player contract.

This should tell you two things.
added in. makes it a 5 year contract
but for this conversation shows it is added to the agents contract. Not by the agent but by the NFL. Which would mean it was not negotiated by the contract advisor.
This is why I believe the agent wouldnt get paid for the 5th year. Otherwise he would be basically robbing the player money from the 5th year without ever doing anything for it. (or possibly even seeing it)

But again the tagged years agents are paid and the CBA sets the salary and the agent didn’t negotiate that yet the agent gets paid for it. Obviously they are saying since the option year was attached to a contract they negotiated they get paid. Get it?

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

actually it is a 5 year contract unless the team declines (nullifies) the 5th year option. it is already apart of the contract. making it 5 years.

Nope, they don’t have to decline anything. If they don’t notify the league they are picking up the option the player is a FA after 4. They don’t nullify anything. If the team says absolutely nothing it stays a four year contract and they didn’t nullify anything. You got it backwards

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

BOOM

game over

He’s wrong. The team doesn’t nullify anything. If they say and do nothing it stays for years. It’s actually the exact opposite they have to notify the league they will pick up the option.

Game on!

 

[handicappers]

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[PhoenixEagles1]

No you don't understand the position. It's not about draft position that's the importance of the position but keep digging in those heels even though everyone on the hoop has explained to you why. I see your scout and raise you a player that actually played on a D1 o-line. Now you have it top 10? Make up your mind cause first it was never first round, then top 20, then top 13 and now top 10. So if one gets picked top 10, are you going for top 5 next?

No one will pick a Center top 10 because they won’t waste a prime pick on a less valued position. I completely understand the position and I under stand out of the starting 22 they are the least athletic position on the field. Too slow to play T and not strong enough to play G.
And it was never first round. Do not put that on me cause I showed the very original post. Is said, “Centers never go round one. There has only been 3 in the last 5 years”. Don’t do that dickhead Handicapper shit bro. I said top 15 and DblDown found one in the top 15 from like 1972 or so. So don’t even act like I said that shit. That is lame and the epitome of bull crap posting.
QB, DE, LT, CB, WR1 will always be the elite positions. WR1 is dropping but Jason Kelce has been first team all pro the last 2 years. You taking him over Julio Jones? Nope. Fucking Center. You guys crack me up.

If it’s soooo important why has no team in the last 50 years, 500 draft picks have ever felt the need to grab one. Every single position has gone top 10 except one. Why is that if GMs feel they really need an elite Center to contend. 500 fucking picks and not ONE!

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

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We knew that years ago. You think I don’t know that the 5th year option is part of a rookie 1st round picks contract? Jesus Christ work on your argument skills. No shit a 5th year option is on it. But unfortunately for all you guys an option year doesn’t make it a 5 year contract. It’s a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th.

I know you’re a dumbass and all but that was really bad bro.

 

[Manster7588]

And we know that isn’t true when it comes to salaries because agent get commission on franchise tags where the money is CBA negotiated.
Without exception for CBA benefits.

You already know they get paid when players are tagged and the CBA dictates that salary. Why do you keep ignoring that.

The only one ignoring anything is you. The NFLPA Agent Agreement stats agents don't get paid of the CBA dictates the contract. I've already proven agents don't always get paid for salary, and you act like that doesn't count.

 

[Tapey]

Can we just make a mega thread about this stupid ass shit instead of making new threads

 

[handicappers]

We knew that years ago. You think I don’t know that the 5th year option is part of a rookie 1st round picks contract? Jesus Christ work on your argument skills. No shit a 5th year option is on it. But unfortunately for all you guys an option year doesn’t make it a 5 year contract. It’s a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th.

I know you’re a dumbass and all but that was really bad bro.

sorry doofuss, but the 5th year is PART OF THE CONTRACT. I know you're a dumbass, but Hey Sus Christ you're a moron.

 

[handicappers]

 

[handicappers]

Can we just make a mega thread about this stupid ass shit instead of making new threads

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