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bksballer89

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This Heat/Cavs convo is beyond redundant
 

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Empty stats lol. That's a ridiculous claim. Blake biggest issue beek injuries.

How far are you honestly expecting a team to go when the 3rd best player was DeAndre Jordan in the midst of the warriors dynasty run?
still don't get why nets felt the need to get deandre jordan when they have a perfectly good allen sitting right there.
 

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Didn't say you did either.....was referring to the Heat. They believe that much in him after a handful of Summer League games?

If they thought that highly of him (to make him the reason not to get RW) you really think they just wait and hope he falls to them and don't move up to get him?

If your scouting says he will fall to you, why trade up unnecessarily? Lakers could've traded up in the draft to get Kuzma (they had two late 1sts), but instead got him where they already were. A big part of the draft is getting good value.
 

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This Heat/Cavs convo is beyond redundant

oh, come now. you don't find entertainment in WigittyWack's constant trolling of your team...ESPECIALLY when said teams are about to serve him a massive shit burger for all of his trash talk...?

me, i'm looking forward to this season MORE thanks to him...

#justsayin':D
 

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LOL when they met later? what do you mean between 6 and 6:05? They worked out that Kyrie and Durant would take less than maxes to allow for Jordan to get 10M a year?

dude i had no clue you were this fucking gullible.

Woj tweet with the specifics of DJ’s signing came at 9:55 PM

Before that, I am absolutely sure that the 3 players spoke with each other about making it work. They have smart people on their side who understand NBA cap too.

It is most definitely possible that all of this was done without any direct contact between KD and the Nets since it is the agent’s job to work out all the details anyway.

Since the original report states that KD and Kyrie were both taking max deals, yeah it is defiantly possible that the details got worked out afterwards with KD and Kyrie saying, hey, how can we fit DJ in also?

But again, you make the same mistake over and over. You take things nuclear and talking in certainty when discussing something you don't have Any clue about.

Is it possible KD spoke with Marks prior to making his announcement?

Yes. But is also quite possible if not more likely that all the negotiations were made through back channels with KD’s people and not KD himself:l.
 

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Empty stats lol. That's a ridiculous claim. Blake biggest issue beek injuries.

How far are you honestly expecting a team to go when the 3rd best player was DeAndre Jordan in the midst of the warriors dynasty run?

CP3 joined the Clips in 2011, with Griffin and Jordan already there. Warriors didn't win a title until 2015.
 

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This Heat/Cavs convo is beyond redundant

You think?
Not sure why Cavs fans are so owned by the Heat franchise.

And, we were just informed by DTG that their success is equal, even though Heat has 3 Rings, Cavs 1, and have been in the league 16 less seasons.
 

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CP3 joined the Clips in 2011, with Griffin and Jordan already there. Warriors didn't win a title until 2015.

Whats your point? Please don't tell me you're trying to make a ridiculous claim that blake and dj was supposed to be some title contending powerhouse before even getting cp3
 

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You think?
Not sure why Cavs fans are so owned by the Heat franchise.

And, we were just informed by DTG that their success is equal, even though Heat has 3 Rings, Cavs 1, and have been in the league 16 less seasons.

with Wiggy it's an obsession. and by that i'm talking Titanic sinking but STILL trying to get his jibes in and everyone else getting off the boat...

like I said before, it's a hate/jealousy issue...
 

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He was .2 points behind Tony Parker. He also averaged 6 more rebounds a game while also getting double the steals. Plus he was the primary defender on Lebron. And given Lebron's memorable Finals performances, his 2014 one was nowhere near a great performance.
That Spurs team was just as much Duncan’s team as Leonard’s team. If you were to say Leonard was the most valuable player it was by the slightest of margins, which doesn’t equate to the Spurs being Leonard’s team in the truest sense. During those playoffs Leonard was the 3rd leading scorer on the team with Duncan and Parker having higher ppg average. Duncan was the anchor of those defenses so he was just an important part of the defense of the Spurs. The Spurs team weren’t driven by one superstar like the MJ and Lebron teams were, so it’s a bit unfair to label that team as “Leonard’s team” and give that ring the same weight as true “lead dog” ring. Moreover, Leonard hasn’t gone into a season with a target on his back like he will this season. He will be studied more than ever and teams will figure out his tendencies and game plan for him better. He, also, has to deal with expectations and trying to meet those expectation and the pressure that goes along with that. He has to prove himself under those circumstance or else he will be considered a fluke.
 

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with Wiggy it's an obsession. and by that i'm talking Titanic sinking but STILL trying to get his jibes in...

like I said before, it's a hate/jealousy issue...

Guess he can be that way since hes so much smarter and successful..
 

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Agreed that is true......but the team could have been in his actual back yard and if he didn't think he could win he would not have come back. Hope you know that.

I would not bet on them winning another title in my life without changes in the CBA.

Of course he had to think he could win to come back
 

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Cavs are DEFINITELY irrleevant right now.....but they wont be forever if they build right.

Heat will be irrelevant for the long haul if they keep operating how they are operating. What is the definitin of isnaity? doing the same thing over again and again and expeecting different results? Sure seems like thats what the Heat is doing- being a capped out mess incapable of doing much besides once in a while making the playoffs and getting shellacked- at least since lebron left that is.

As i said -riley doesnt have the time to really do it right- so this is his approach, and its going to leave him going out a loser--- that his last success will be solely built on LeBron James' shoulders, which is pretty funny if yo uask me.

Why is that funny? All of your team's success is on LeBron's shoulders too.

And Cleveland IMO won't ever be able to 'build right' because no FA will come there.

And yes Riley might be out before Miami wins again, but Miami is still winning before Cleveland.
 

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You think?
Not sure why Cavs fans are so owned by the Heat franchise.

And, we were just informed by DTG that their success is equal, even though Heat has 3 Rings, Cavs 1, and have been in the league 16 less seasons.

It is the dumbest thing ever. Should have not being obsessed with Miami once Bron left for LA
 

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still don't get why nets felt the need to get deandre jordan when they have a perfectly good allen sitting right there.

Yeah it really doesn't make much sense. They could have paid a PF or SG $10M. Put a guy like JJ Redick next to Kyrie and KD and that is dangerous
 
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