Bucks offseason possibilities

[buckalis]

Pretty sure this is incorrect, but even if true 1 year of JR better than 2 of snell.

You being "Pretty sure" or not makes no difference... it's dead correct! As of your other comment that implements "Snell can be used only as a sallary filler" only one that knows "very little" (I'm always polite at people) on basketball could make...

 

[dtgold88]

checked it out, @buckalis .

This is how it reads........

• 2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 6/30/19

which means they can waive him now and owe him nothing, or keep him as an expiring contract and owe 3.87 mil after 7/1

Still think Snell is a more valuable contract? Guess my "pretty sure" beat your false report.

 

[buckalis]

checked it out, @buckalis .

This is how it reads........

• 2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 6/30/19

Which is exactly what I'm saying... He can't be traded after July the 1st and still get only 3M of compensation if waived later... he'll have to be payed the full 16M if this happens...

which means they can waive him now and owe him nothing, or keep him as an expiring contract and owe 3.87 mil after 7/1

Still think Snell is a more valuable contract?

You read it wrong... There is a comma (,) before the word "fully"... therefore it's "(sallary) fully (guaranteed) if not waived on or before 6/30/19" what you should read...

 

[shopson67]

I have answered this in multiple cases... You obviously know "little" about Bucks cap space... The Bucks are full with contracts that have exeptions (bird rights, MLE etc...) they also have only 72M of guaranteed salaries for next season before they resign all their expirings (and Hill for much less), they additionally will be trading Snell (bird) and most probably Ilyasova (MLE) which combine 19M... Therefore the Bucks space to work with, starts at 53M before they "hit" the 132M lux tax for next season... More or less 80M to work with...

Get off your high horse. All that info is available online:

Milwaukee Bucks 2019-20 Salary Cap

I wasn't talking about luxury tax. The more important number is the salary cap.

 

[buckalis]

Get off your high horse. All that info is available online:

Milwaukee Bucks 2019-20 Salary Cap

I wasn't talking about luxury tax. The more important number is the salary cap.

I know what's written in Bucks books much better than you do, therefore no need for you to post it...
it's 107M -3,5 (teletovic) - 13M (Middleton) - (18M Hill) = 72M before they sign their expirings and Hill (for much less than 18M) as I said before... Additionally the Bucks have 19M of contracts included in the guaranteed salaries to trade (again as I said before)...

Bucks will never pay lux tax before they hit 132M of salaries (132 being the lux tax deadline for next season)

 

[dtgold88]

Which is exactly what I'm saying... He can't be traded after July the 1st and still get only 3M of compensation if waived later... he'll have to be payed the full 16M if this happens...



You read it wrong... There is a comma (,) before the word "fully"... therefore it's "(sallary) fully (guaranteed) if not waived on or before 6/30/19" what you should read...

I get you are one of those who cannot admit when he's wrong(and knew right away about you).

Many have said Cavs will move him and it's because of owing only 3.8 mil.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It seems to me that my "little" is much more than your "little" J.R. Smith is eligible for only 3M guaranteed on his contract, but only if he is waived before July the 1st... Unless I'm mistaken there are no trades that can be done until after July the 1st... Sooo... unless it's a "sign and trade" were he is used as a "salary filler" (most probably on a 3 team deal) forget it...



You obviously are talking about things you know "very little" (I'm always polite at people) about... Snell was injured in the first round of the playoffs and was cleared only after the 3rd game against the Celtics were was "unready" and in "restricted minutes"... All other has being answered before...

You still haven't answered my question. You say Middleton will get traded for AD after a sign and trade. I say he will resign on max with MIL. If you are so confident, let make a bet.

Your "answers" are opinions. Very shitty opinions. I am always very polite

 

[buckalis]

I get you are one of those who cannot admit when he's wrong(and knew right away about you).

Many have said Cavs will move him and it's because of owing only 3.8 mil.

Not my mistake if people know little on English grammar...

 

[shopson67]

I know what's written in Bucks books much better than you do, therefore no need for you to post it...
it's 107M -3,5 (teletovic) - 13M (Middleton) - (18M Hill) = 72M before they sign their expirings and Hill (for much less than 18M) as I said before... Additionally the Bucks have 19M of contracts included in the guaranteed salaries to trade (again as I said before)...

Bucks will never pay lux tax before they hit 132M of salaries (132 being the lux tax deadline for next season)

You're acting as if those 19M of contracts to trade will bring back no salary (and that they're actually desirable). You also stated that the Bucks wanted to retain all of their FAs (approx $28M worth of cap holds, including a severely understated value for Brogdon) that will keep the Bucks cap from allowing any major additions via free agency.

Luxury tax only comes into play with going over the cap to re-sign their own birds rights players and allowable trade overages.

 

[buckalis]

You still haven't answered my question. You say Middleton will get traded for AD after a sign and trade. I say he will resign on max with MIL. If you are so confident, let make a bet.

Your "answers" are opinions. Very shitty opinions. I am always very polite

1. I never said Middleton will be traded for AD, I said that the Bucks are considering to make an offer for AD and I've posted a "model" of how this could happen... Now if you unable to read, it doen't worth having a conversation with you... Actually I think you all you can do when you are involved in a "conversation" is "shitting" as you confess your self...

After all, I've already made a thread that I don't think AD will be traded after the lottery's result... I don't like it like you being "smelly" instead of being able to have a conversation... therefore please avoid quoting me? Thanks in advance for your cooperation!

 

[buckalis]

You're acting as if those 19M of contracts to trade will bring back no salary (and that they're actually desirable). You also stated that the Bucks wanted to retain all of their FAs (approx $28M worth of cap holds, including a severely understated value for Brogdon) that will keep the Bucks cap from allowing any major additions via free agency.

Luxury tax only comes into play with going over the cap to re-sign their own birds rights players and allowable trade overages.

All I'm saying is that the Bucks will resign all their expiring (not sure about Middleton if he doesn't agree on a "team friendly") and that they'll sign new coming players that if added to the expiring contracts new values, will add up to more or less 80M...

 

[msgkings322]

Not my mistake if people know little on English grammar...

Oh the irony

 

[shopson67]

All I'm saying is that the Bucks will resign all their expiring (not sure about Middleton if he doesn't agree on a "team friendly") and that they'll sign new coming players that if added to the expiring contracts new values, will add up to more or less 80M...

It's far from that simple

 

[dtgold88]

Not my mistake if people know little on English grammar...

wager?

 

[buckalis]

wager?

No... it Only means that:

2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed , fully if not waived on or before 6/30/19

reads exactly the opposite to:

2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed fully , if not waived on or before 6/30/19

because of the comma position...

 

[dtgold88]

No... it Only means that:

2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed , fully if not waived on or before 6/30/19

reads exactly the opposite to:

2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed fully , if not waived on or before 6/30/19

because of the comma position...

Reads exactly how everyone but you thinks. I realize contract of 3.87 mil is guaranteed and guaranteed fully if not waived.

But go with it however you like.....it's a better contract for a team than paying Snell for 2 seasons.

 

[dtgold88]

Also this.....

Cavaliers Trade Rumors: JR Smith's Contract of Interest to Teams Clearing Cap

"Even though the CBA has changed, Smith's contract was grandfathered in, which allows the Cavs to take back a high-priced salary (more than $15 million) while the other team is only on the hook for $3.8 million. Other deals signed after 2016 would only work for the guaranteed amount on the contract when it comes to matching salaries—not nearly as appealing in trades. Smith's contract is the only one of its kind."

455-1 it's in you to say you were wrong.

 

[shopson67]

No... it Only means that:

2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed , fully if not waived on or before 6/30/19

reads exactly the opposite to:

2019 $3,870,000 guaranteed fully , if not waived on or before 6/30/19

because of the comma position...

Regardless, the truth of the matter is JR Smith's full value of his contract ($15,680,000) is guaranteed for the 2019/2020 season if not waived by 6/30/19. If waived by then, the dead money is $3,870,000 against the 2019/2020 cap.

 

[buckalis]

Reads exactly how everyone but you thinks. I realize contract of 3.87 mil is guaranteed and guaranteed fully if not waived.

But go with it however you like.....it's a better contract for a team than paying Snell for 2 seasons.

Only that by you saying "everyone", you mean "anyone" that reeds the same as you ...can!

In English grammar (and therefore in contracts - especially in contracts) you can't wright "garanteed fully" in a text... you would have to write "fully guaranteed" so that it can be valid... I hope you understand... otherwise stop here quoting me, or go speak with others who speak the same language as you...

 

[shopson67]

Also this.....

Cavaliers Trade Rumors: JR Smith's Contract of Interest to Teams Clearing Cap

"Even though the CBA has changed, Smith's contract was grandfathered in, which allows the Cavs to take back a high-priced salary (more than $15 million) while the other team is only on the hook for $3.8 million. Other deals signed after 2016 would only work for the guaranteed amount on the contract when it comes to matching salaries—not nearly as appealing in trades. Smith's contract is the only one of its kind."

455-1 it's in you to say you were wrong.

That trade has to be completed before free agency begins.