Lottery watch 2019 - quest for Zion

[Shanemansj13]

Say the top 3 was PHX, NY then CLE...would NY go Barrett over Morant? They could, they have 3 PG's. Which would be a blessing in disguise.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Clarke, Washington, Porter, McDaniels, Johnson, Williams, Edwards all projected late 1st to early 2nd...would be thrilled if the Cavs would get one of these guys late in the 1st depending on need

 

[shopson67]

pre-lottery draft order

1. New York Knicks - 52.1% chance at top-four pick; 14.0% for No. 1 pick
2. Phoenix Suns - 52.1% chance at top-four pick; 14.0% for No. 1 pick
2. Cleveland Cavaliers - 52.1% chance at top-four pick; 14.0% for No. 1 pick
4. Chicago Bulls - 48.0% chance for top-four pick; 12.5% for No. 1 pick
5. Atlanta Hawks - 42.1% chance for top-four pick; 10.5% for No. 1 pick
6. Washington Wizards - 37.2% chance for top-four pick; 9.0% for No. 1 pick
7. Memphis Grizzlies (top 8 protected or to Celtics) - 36.3% chance for top-four pick; 6.0% for No. 1 pick
7. Dallas Mavericks (top 5 protected or to Hawks) - 36.3% chance for top-four pick; 6.0% for No. 1 pick
7. New Orleans Pelicans (tie-breaker Friday) - 36.3% chance for top-four pick; 6.0% for No. 1 pick
10. Minnesota Timberwolves - 13.9% chance for top-four pick; 3.0% for No. 1 pick
11. Los Angeles Lakers - 9.4% chance for top-four pick; 2.0% for No. 1 pick
12. Charlotte Hornets - 4.8% chance for top-four pick; 1.0% for No. 1 pick
12. Miami Heat - 4.8% chance for top-four pick; 1.0% for No. 1 pick
12. Sacramento Kings (to Celtics to Sixers if #1) - 4.8% chance for top-four pick; 1.0% for No. 1 pick
15. Detroit Pistons
16. Orlando Magic
16. Brooklyn Nets
18. Los Angeles Clippers (to Celtics)
18. San Antonio Spurs
18. Indiana Pacers
21. Oklahoma City Thunder
21. Boston Celtics
23. Utah Jazz
24. Philadelphia Sixers
25. Houston Rockets (to Cavs)
25. Portland Trailblazers
27. Denver Nuggets (to Nets)
28. Golden State Warriors
29. Toronto Raptors (57-24) (to Spurs)
30. Bucks (60-21)

Lottery ties to be broken Friday via drawing
Non-lottery picks continue to change as the playoffs progress

 

[WiggyRuss]

pre-lottery draft order

1. New York Knicks - 52.1% chance at top-four pick; 14.0% for No. 1 pick
2. Phoenix Suns - 52.1% chance at top-four pick; 14.0% for No. 1 pick
2. Cleveland Cavaliers - 52.1% chance at top-four pick; 14.0% for No. 1 pick
4. Chicago Bulls - 48.0% chance for top-four pick; 12.5% for No. 1 pick
5. Atlanta Hawks - 42.1% chance for top-four pick; 10.5% for No. 1 pick
6. Washington Wizards - 37.2% chance for top-four pick; 9.0% for No. 1 pick
7. Memphis Grizzlies (top 8 protected or to Celtics) - 36.3% chance for top-four pick; 6.0% for No. 1 pick
7. Dallas Mavericks (top 5 protected or to Hawks) - 36.3% chance for top-four pick; 6.0% for No. 1 pick
7. New Orleans Pelicans (tie-breaker Friday) - 36.3% chance for top-four pick; 6.0% for No. 1 pick
10. Minnesota Timberwolves - 13.9% chance for top-four pick; 3.0% for No. 1 pick
11. Los Angeles Lakers - 9.4% chance for top-four pick; 2.0% for No. 1 pick
12. Charlotte Hornets - 4.8% chance for top-four pick; 1.0% for No. 1 pick
12. Miami Heat - 4.8% chance for top-four pick; 1.0% for No. 1 pick
12. Sacramento Kings (to Celtics to Sixers if #1) - 4.8% chance for top-four pick; 1.0% for No. 1 pick
15. Detroit Pistons
16. Orlando Magic
16. Brooklyn Nets
18. Los Angeles Clippers (to Celtics)
18. San Antonio Spurs
18. Indiana Pacers
21. Oklahoma City Thunder
21. Boston Celtics
23. Utah Jazz
24. Philadelphia Sixers
25. Houston Rockets (to Cavs)
25. Portland Trailblazers
27. Denver Nuggets (to Nets)
28. Golden State Warriors
29. Toronto Raptors (57-24) (to Spurs)
30. Bucks (60-21)

Lottery ties to be broken Friday via drawing
Non-lottery picks continue to change as the playoffs progress

2% chance for the #1 pick is really not that bad--- im being serious..... i mean, its not great odds, but that certainly means you have a chance.

If the Lakers got the #1 pick would keep Zion? trade the pick for Davis? trade LeBron and go young with Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Zion--- and say, trade Lebron to the Knicks for their pick and take Barrett or Morant?


9.4% at top 4 isnt bad either......

 

[WiggyRuss]

Lakers get the #1 pick...take Zion, trade LeBron to the Knicks for the Knicks pick....

PG: Ball
SG: Barrett
SF: Ingram
Pf: Zion
C: Kuzma

??? no? lol? super young team?

or trade Zion for Davis........and then trade Ingram and Kuzma and a first rounder for Beal....and have Davis, Beal and LeBron...?

 

[WiggyRuss]

I just hope the Cavs somehow get into the Top 3......that way you get a franchise building block

if they dont it wont be the end of the world- but Culver, Reddish, Hunter just arent as good of prospects as the top 3....

 

[ericd7633]

My top 5 would be:

1. Morant(I know I'm in the minority here, but I think he grades out better)
2. Zion
3. RJ Barrett
4. Brandon Clarke
5. De'Andre Hunter

Reddish has really slipped IMO. I'd take Culver over him(despite Culver struggling in the F4).

Some late first/early second projected sleepers I like: Eric Paschall, Admiral Schofield, Cam Johnson and Terrance Mann.

 

[Battlelyon]

Zion to NY is almost inevitable at this point. Knicks win the lotto

Which everyone will expect, the NBA will have to explain how the system is not rigged and how it works.

 

[Shanemansj13]

My top 5 would be:

1. Morant(I know I'm in the minority here, but I think he grades out better)
2. Zion
3. RJ Barrett
4. Brandon Clarke
5. De'Andre Hunter

Reddish has really slipped IMO. I'd take Culver over him(despite Culver struggling in the F4).

Some late first/early second projected sleepers I like: Eric Paschall, Admiral Schofield, Cam Johnson and Terrance Mann.

It isn't crazy imo to have Morant at one considering how PG's dominate this leave. Morant reminds me of Westbrook with his athleticism and passing skills.

I would put RJ lower and I know I am in the big minority here. If the Cavs got him I hope I am way off on that prediction.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Which everyone will expect, the NBA will have to explain how the system is not rigged and how it works.

Or even better. The Knicks don't get Zion and they don't get any bigtime FA's. Seems more legit lol.

 

[ericd7633]

It isn't crazy imo to have Morant at one considering how PG's dominate this leave. Morant reminds me of Westbrook with his athleticism and passing skills.

I would put RJ lower and I know I am in the big minority here. If the Cavs got him I hope I am way off on that prediction.

Morant is a better shooter too IMO. I'm not in love with RJ, but the one thing I think he'll be able to do is create his own shot. That'll go a long way for him and his teammates. That's why I am weary of Reddish, can he consistently create for himself and others? That's why I have Culver ahead because i think he can.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Morant is a better shooter too IMO. I'm not in love with RJ, but the one thing I think he'll be able to do is create his own shot. That'll go a long way for him and his teammates. That's why I am weary of Reddish, can he consistently create for himself and others? That's why I have Culver ahead because i think he can.

Yeah Reddish was projected to be a lights out shooter and didn't go well in that lone year at Duke.
RJ can create his own shot I just think him and Sexton isn't a good fit. I think he zones out at times and Sexton is trying to become a better passer I just think it will hurt his development. Could be a better fit for other teams.

 

[Battlelyon]

Who needs Zion the most?

 

[shopson67]

Lakers get the #1 pick...take Zion, trade LeBron to the Knicks for the Knicks pick....

PG: Ball
SG: Barrett
SF: Ingram
Pf: Zion
C: Kuzma

??? no? lol? super young team?

or trade Zion for Davis........and then trade Ingram and Kuzma and a first rounder for Beal....and have Davis, Beal and LeBron...?

Gotta think trading for Davis is ALWAYS first on the Lakers' minds.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Lakers get the #1 pick...take Zion, trade LeBron to the Knicks for the Knicks pick....

PG: Ball
SG: Barrett
SF: Ingram
Pf: Zion
C: Kuzma

??? no? lol? super young team?

or trade Zion for Davis........and then trade Ingram and Kuzma and a first rounder for Beal....and have Davis, Beal and LeBron...?

The second option seems more reasonable. You gotta think if they were to somehow get that #1 pick it would be on it's way to N.O. for Davis. They would haven't to give up a whole lot more imo. Then you could use the rest of their young players and picks to work a Beal deal.

Lebron, AD and Beal is a match made in heaven imo. IF KD were to leave, that could defeat Steph, Klay and Dray...just have to get some pieces around them.

 

[shopson67]

The second option seems more reasonable. You gotta think if they were to somehow get that #1 pick it would be on it's way to N.O. for Davis. They would haven't to give up a whole lot more imo. Then you could use the rest of their young players and picks to work a Beal deal.

Lebron, AD and Beal is a match made in heaven imo. IF KD were to leave, that could defeat Steph, Klay and Dray...just have to get some pieces around them.

Beal trade is only needed if all options this summer fall through. That remains to be seen...

 

[Shanemansj13]

Beal trade is only needed if all options this summer fall through. That remains to be seen...

Yeah just dont think Kawhi, Kyrie or KD will be options even with the rumors, you never know.

That leaves Kemba, Cousins, Vucevic.The goal is not give up any young players but if push comes to shove they might have to make a deal. I think Beal would be a perfect fit if it comes to that. Wonder what the Wiz asking price would be...

Kuzma, Ingram and picks? The have Wall so not sure Ball makes sense.

 

[dtgold88]

I just hope the Cavs somehow get into the Top 3......that way you get a franchise building block

if they dont it wont be the end of the world- but Culver, Reddish, Hunter just arent as good of prospects as the top 3....

I hope so too...could mean the difference between quick rebuild and NBA Purgatory for a while.

 

[WiggyRuss]

My top 5 would be:

1. Morant(I know I'm in the minority here, but I think he grades out better)
2. Zion
3. RJ Barrett
4. Brandon Clarke
5. De'Andre Hunter

Reddish has really slipped IMO. I'd take Culver over him(despite Culver struggling in the F4).

Some late first/early second projected sleepers I like: Eric Paschall, Admiral Schofield, Cam Johnson and Terrance Mann.

there are people that have Morant 1st from what I have seen because they value skills more than athleticism------- and its not a crazy argument.

 

[dtgold88]

Which everyone will expect, the NBA will have to explain how the system is not rigged and how it works.

You can believe it's not rigged by asking yourself if you really believe Mark Cuban and Dan Gilbert would just say, "sure...give NY the top pick and hell, let LA have #2"?