Media Rating for NCG hit new low

[Fitbud]

It drew a 14.6 (view-ship declined after the 1st half with the casual viewer just checking scores)
The 1st Playoff NCG with Ohio St. vs. Oregon drew a 18.9 in 2015, and in 2016 Alabama vs Clemson drew a 15.3.

Some are suggesting a real fatigue with another Alabama -- Clemson match-up … also some discussion about 2 teams from the same region didn't help in viewership Nation-wide …

This is exactly why there needs to be an expansion of the playoff. Most people are tired of seeing Alabama and Clemson play each other.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

That I understand. I’m just not sure what changes could’ve prevented it. This year, those teams were the top 2 over the season.

If I weren’t a fan of one of them, I probably would feel “fatigue” as well. That said, I watched every BCS title game except 2001 (I was in Antarctica) and oddly 2010 (on a flight back from Manila).

To some degree it separates hard core from casual fans. I realize the networks want ANYONE watching, but as to what actions could be taken I don’t have a good answer.

Alabama and Clemson are in states with relatively low populations. It is what it is.

I watched both semi games but didn't catch much of the final. I bet on Bama but had no rooting interest. First time I can recall just not caring who won.

But props to both Bama/Clemson

You all earned it.

 

[Deep Creek]

Sorry but MI has been to exactly 0 CFP's. They aren't close to that grouping of Alabama-Clemson. They lose almost every big game they play in. They lost to ND and Ohio St. ND got crushed by Clemson. They got crushed by Ohio St. 10 wins doesn't mean shit, if you are truly a national contender each year you are getting closer to Clemson and Bama.

Georgia
Ohio St
Oklahoma

At this point, I don't see any other in that grouping. These teams have been in the conversation the last 2-3 years at least or every year of the CFP. Michigan has never been in that conversation.

If by "in that conversation" you mean final CFP ratings then I agree with you 100%.

However, many would interpret "in that conversation" as that entire timeframe leading up to the final selection. In that case this year Michigan was:
1st CFP Rankings #5
2nd CFP Rankings #4
3rd CFP Rankings #4
4th CFP Rankings #4

They didn't drop out until the week after the Ohio State loss. So, until week 12 Michigan could be considered "in the conversation". Which is another good example of how stupid it is to start the rankings as early as they do. Seems every year there are overhyped beauty queens that appear in early ratings.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

This is exactly why there needs to be an expansion of the playoff. Most people are tired of seeing Alabama and Clemson play each other.

So had it been an 8-team playoff that inevitably yielded Bama/CU those with Bama/CU fatigue” would’ve been more likely to watch? FCS had a 24-team playoff and title game on Saturday. What were THEIR ratings?

I’m all for going to 8 teams, but I don’t see that improving ratings by itself.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Three steps.
1.) Recruit at the same level as they (Bama and Clemson) do. Several already are.
2.) Develop said recruited talent.
3.) Not screw up during the season and lose to bad or middling teams.

IMO they have to be done in that order...and that can be a Catch 22. Not going to get that same level of talent to some locations until a team wins. Not going to win until they get the same level of talent.

So, in reality, only a handful of teams have any real odds of ever getting to that level.

There are about 10 teams that recruit at a really high level consistently. But I think the second thing is the ability to form an elite coaching staff from top to bottom. All of the other teams who recruit in the competitive realm of those schools had major failures on one side of the ball or were only good on both sides of the ball, but elite on neither.

Clemson #5 total defense, #3 total offense
Alabama #16 total defense, #6 total offense
ND #30 total defense, #32 total offense
OU #114 total defense, #1 total offense
OSU #71 total defense, #2 total offense
UGA #13 total defense, #18 total offense
UM #2 total defense, #50 total offense

and I could keep going, the trend is that the only two teams with top 15 or so offensive and defensive rankings are the two teams everyone is trying to catch.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I think you used to see kids stay closer to home more often back in the day. The world is getting smaller. Thus the haves in the recruiting world are dominating even more.

College basketball recruiting is just as bad it's just they have to turn their roster every year so come tourney time we are seeing the more veteran teams do better.

If Duke and Kentucky kept their top guys three years it wouldn't be a contest

 

[Hillbillyzombie]

So had it been an 8-team playoff that inevitably yielded Bama/CU those with Bama/CU fatigue” would’ve been more likely to watch? FCS had a 24-team playoff and title game on Saturday. What were THEIR ratings?

I’m all for going to 8 teams, but I don’t see that improving ratings by itself.

I agree. I think Bama should go down to FCS and play there.
Salamat po for the idea

 

[Fitbud]

So had it been an 8-team playoff that inevitably yielded Bama/CU those with Bama/CU fatigue” would’ve been more likely to watch? FCS had a 24-team playoff and title game on Saturday. What were THEIR ratings?

I’m all for going to 8 teams, but I don’t see that improving ratings by itself.

Going to 8 teams makes it less likely for any two teams to go head to head every year. This is the fourth time that Alabama and Clemson have met in the playoff.

Going to 8 teams also allows for more teams from different parts of the country to participate and have a chance at the title. As good as Alabama and Clemson are, there just isn't enough interest around the country for those teams even if they are the best.

 

[Clayton]

Clemson-Bama fatigue is real. I only watched 5 minutes of the game

 

[ill]

so is this because of all the kneeling?

 

[gob]

Clemson-Bama fatigue is real. I only watched 5 minutes of the game

That's probably about as much time I did, as well, but it was over the first half. I just had it streaming, but I was doing stuff around the apartment.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Clemson-Bama fatigue is real. I only watched 5 minutes of the game

I think any fatigue with a Marquee matchup would come about. Shit gets so overmarketed. I'm a LeBron fan from Ohio and was happy he went to the Lakers. I had had enough of Cavs/Warriors.

 

[TheDayMan]

so is this because of all the kneeling?

 

[Clayton]

I think any fatigue with a Marquee matchup would come about. Shit gets so overmarketed. I'm a LeBron fan from Ohio and was happy he went to the Lakers. I had had enough of Cavs/Warriors.

Right, its the same problem I have with the NBA. I basically stopped watching the NBA when Durant got traded.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

I agree. I think Bama should go down to FCS and play there.
Salamat po for the idea

Walang anuman!

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I am sure both played major parts in it. Also is Monday night the right time for a college championship game?

Mother fucking this. Twice.

Monday night.

Suck my balls.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Also, it would be interesting to hear how many turned the game off in the 4th quarter

I didn't turn it off, but I fell asleep.

 

[Deep Creek]

There are about 10 teams that recruit at a really high level consistently. But I think the second thing is the ability to form an elite coaching staff from top to bottom. All of the other teams who recruit in the competitive realm of those schools had major failures on one side of the ball or were only good on both sides of the ball, but elite on neither.

Clemson #5 total defense, #3 total offense
Alabama #16 total defense, #6 total offense
ND #30 total defense, #32 total offense
OU #114 total defense, #1 total offense
OSU #71 total defense, #2 total offense
UGA #13 total defense, #18 total offense
UM #2 total defense, #50 total offense

and I could keep going, the trend is that the only two teams with top 15 or so offensive and defensive rankings are the two teams everyone is trying to catch.

#2 on my list. Can't develop talent without them.

I would say there are about 10-15 teams that can realistically recruit to the level needed. That is the potential pool of CFP teams. The others are along for the ride. IMO they can only sneak in if the breaks go their way, the stars align and a large portion of those 10-15 teams previously mentioned shit all over themselves in the same year.

But, that is just my opinion. There are many that believe EVERY FBS team (at least every Power 5 team) has a reasonable shot at a playoff spot.

And FTR, there are many that are no longer putting much stock in total offense/total defense stats. Seems the newer up tempo offenses (or lack thereof) can skew those stats significantly. So can the quality of opponents.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Weekend would have dropped the ratings more. NFL play offs

Then do Friday.

Fuck Monday night.

And while we're on the subject, fuck the Superbowl Sunday. Should be Superbowl Saturday.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Maybe a few teams like OU, OSU, Mich?

Hahaha.

Fucking no.