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[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Breed]

WTF is DJ Swearinger talkin like he's been ballin 9000 this year? Coming up with 3 funky ass INTs in 2 games, both of which were losses, ain't no hellified thing. STFU, DJ. You've probably been burned, clowned and just outplayed as much as anyone else on defense.

 

[Breed]

We know


Pretty nice company

RK has a pretty decent shot at 100 sacks if he continues to stay relatively injury free imo. That would also make him the Redskins career sack leader. At present with his 67.5 career sacks. He only trails Charles Mann with 82 sacks and Dexter Manley with 91 sacks.

And he won't be forgotten. I just hope the Skins can wrangle a SB title during RK's career. That would be an excellent cherry to put on top.

 

[Stymietee]

I think that there's a Cousins blindness at work here, so let me ask:

1. what does a bad pass look like when he's the QB?

Byron Marshall stands 5' 9" (69 inches) tall, his vertical is 29.5 inches and his arm length is 30.25 inches long (59.75 inches). He had to leap just to get his hands on the ball that was clearly over his head possibly still going up, maybe not. We also know that for whatever reason, Kirk's mechanics were way out of sync and looking at the replay Marshall's arms were fully extended. We are not sure if he completely used the entirety of his vertical capabilities.


There's also this, the old receivers rule, if it hits your hand/ hands then you should catch it. That is true, however, that's about catching the ball, not how awful the pass was to begin with. My question stands!

 

[deanpet21]

I think that there's a Cousins blindness at work here, so let me ask:

1. what does a bad pass look like when he's the QB?

Byron Marshall stands 5' 9" (69 inches) tall, his vertical is 29.5 inches and his arm length is 30.25 inches long (59.75 inches). He had to leap just to get his hands on the ball that was clearly over his head possibly still going up, maybe not. We also know that for whatever reason, Kirk's mechanics were way out of sync and looking at the replay Marshall's arms were fully extended. We are not sure if he completely used the entirety of his vertical capabilities.


There's also this, the old receivers rule, if it hits your hand/ hands then you should catch it. That is true, however, that's about catching the ball, not how awful the pass was to begin with. My question stands!

I agree with you. You will never get an honest answer from a pass that comes from Kc. The ball was high and he extended his RB for the ball. He wasn't rushed and his footwork was rushed and off. I put the INt in KC but of course this board would he acknowledge all the point that are obvious on hat play. If you say this stuff you are labeled a hater but I am just evaluating the play that happened.

 

[Sportster 72]

So let me repeat what I said earlier. It wasn't a good pass, Cousin's footwork/turf whatever was not good, it was catchable but a tough catch. Maybe 3 (and I think that is a lot) does it get volley balled into the air allowing the defender to pick it. I chalked this one up to bad luck for Redskins and very good luck for the Giants.

 

[Stymietee]

So let me repeat what I said earlier. It wasn't a good pass, Cousin's footwork/turf whatever was not good, it was catchable but a tough catch. Maybe 3 (and I think that is a lot) does it get volley balled into the air allowing the defender to pick it. I chalked this one up to bad luck for Redskins and very good luck for the Giants.

Agreed, it was unfortunate for us, good for them. Of course it never happens the way that it did with a better throw.

 

[Stymietee]

I agree with you. You will never get an honest answer from a pass that comes from Kc. The ball was high and he extended his RB for the ball. He wasn't rushed and his footwork was rushed and off. I put the INt in KC but of course this board would he acknowledge all the point that are obvious on hat play. If you say this stuff you are labeled a hater but I am just evaluating the play that happened.

Here's the thing, If there's a great catch like the one that J Doctson made previously the OK'er will say that Kirk placed the ball where ONLY his man could get it. Giving no credit to the extra effort made by the receiver to make a bad throw good. If it's intentional grounding then it becomes miscommunication from the sideline, not that the QB had any responsibility in assuring that the receiver got the sideline call as he did. How about a pick six not being a bad throw but a poor effort by a fully or nearly fully extended receiver.

I still want to know.....what does a bad pass look like when he's the QB? OK'ers??

 

[j_y19]

I think that there's a Cousins blindness at work here, so let me ask:

1. what does a bad pass look like when he's the QB?

Byron Marshall stands 5' 9" (69 inches) tall, his vertical is 29.5 inches and his arm length is 30.25 inches long (59.75 inches). He had to leap just to get his hands on the ball that was clearly over his head possibly still going up, maybe not. We also know that for whatever reason, Kirk's mechanics were way out of sync and looking at the replay Marshall's arms were fully extended. We are not sure if he completely used the entirety of his vertical capabilities.


There's also this, the old receivers rule, if it hits your hand/ hands then you should catch it. That is true, however, that's about catching the ball, not how awful the pass was to begin with. My question stands!

A bad pass when he is the QB looks just like the one we are talking about. The pass was high. But it was catchable. He got two hands on it. The INT was a fluke.

 

[j_y19]

Agreed, it was unfortunate for us, good for them. Of course it never happens the way that it did with a better throw.

Nor does it happen if the receiver catches the ball.

 

[Stymietee]

A bad pass when he is the QB looks just like the one we are talking about. The pass was high. But it was catchable. He got two hands on it. The INT was a fluke.

Then why is it that there are, from your perspective, so many who are refuting that fact as outlined by @Dean??

 

[j_y19]

Then why is it that there are, from your perspective, so many who are refuting that fact as outlined by @Dean??

What “fact” was that?

 

[Stymietee]

Nor does it happen if the receiver catches the ball.

Again defending Kirk?? C'mon we can go all day long with this, see...He might have caught it if it were a better throw.

 

[Stymietee]

What “fact” was that?

That it was a bad throw....because it was.

 

[j_y19]

Again defending Kirk?? C'mon we can go all day long with this, see...He might have caught it if it were a better throw.

Not defending him, just putting the play in perspective. It was a bad throw that could have been caught. The INT was a fluke.

 

[j_y19]

That it was a bad throw....because it was.

It was, for him.

 

[Stymietee]

Not defending him, just putting the play in perspective. It was a bad throw that could have been caught. The INT was a fluke.

Agreed that it was a fluke int, but that "fluke" doesn't happen the way that it did, with a good throw. Kirk's fault all the way.

 

[j_y19]

Agreed that it was a fluke int, but that "fluke" doesn't happen the way that it did, with a good throw. Kirk's fault all the way.

You’re right. Nor does it happen if the receiver catches the ball, which he could. I’m not sure what your point is? Is it to blame KC for one bad throw? Hell, he has had more than one bad pass.

 

[deanpet21]

Agreed that it was a fluke int, but that "fluke" doesn't happen the way that it did, with a good throw. Kirk's fault all the way.

Finally someone with reason.

 

[Stymietee]

You’re right. Nor does it happen if the receiver catches the ball, which he could. I’m not sure what your point is?

Did you read post #44, that explains it. To be clear, on this issue @Dean was correct in pointing out that Kirk initiated the events that led to that pick six. Maybe you guys have something personal against the guy or just don't want to be agreeable to valid points that he makes. (Yeah I know, someone is going to say that he never or rarely makes good points...Ha...ha...and Ha)

There's got to be a way to properly evaluate Kirk Cousins, and it cannot be done with a bias for or against him. When he makes mistakes we have to be able to admit that it was his and not the fault of someone or something else.